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worldcitizen1723
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A question for the experts

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This has been baffling me for a while...
Last time in Mokum , this guy at kiwi seeds was explaining to me
In all seriousness -
That final yield results had nothing to do with the number of plants in the space
BUT only on the strength of the light. So one plant, 8 plants or 12 plants would result in the same yield from a 600 watts. This just seems so logically wrong, but I can not shake this conversation out of my head.... So what say the experts - was he right or just playing with my head?

Thanks in advance.


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I'm not an expert by any measure, so why do I reply? Because I can and want to. :P :wink: :)
I think he was taking the piss, or you were quite stoned and don't recall the exact conversation, or both... :wink: :lol:
Maybe this works...
Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF), finite space equals finite yield regardless of the number of plants or the lamp wattage.
As many variables as one can consider, it all comes down to the strain, the grower, and Mother Nature.
I will use my grow tent as an example. Inside my grow tent, there is a finite amount of space (2.44 cubic meters). Within this finite space, there will be a finite amount of cannabis that can grown. Here's where things get a little interesting... I could grow one plant and fill the entire grow area using the Screen Of Green (SCROG) method, or 16 plants using the Sea Of Green (SOG) method. All things considered (all plants from same mother, same growing medium, etc...), the yield from both methods should be close.
How to maximize yield in an enclosed space - High Stress or Low Stress training. More growing shoots equals more bud which fills up the grow space.
It's all about the pruning... ok, it's mostly about the pruning... :)
Just an opinion...
Happy farming...
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worldcitizen1723
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Re: A question for the experts

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Well uncle Ron, that makes sense....
(Sort of)

Probably what he was trying to explain to me
And, of course I was quite stoned : >

Ya filled the expert's shoes ..
Addlestoner
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Re: A question for the experts

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I think what he was trying to say is that yield isnt determined by how many plants you have but by how much space you have, 1 plant that has been topped and scrogged could easily out produce 5 plants in a sog in the same space, Atleast thats my interpratation.
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Re: A question for the experts

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Check out this post:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p ... tcount=587

in this thread:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php ... 27&page=40

for a one plant SCROG done right :lol:

And there are pluses and minuses with any type of grow. One plant, 100 plant, horizontal, vertical, etc.

Direct, first-hand experience is all that matters in the end.

Obviously, one has to take into account the circumstances in which he is growing and the end-result he wants to accomplish. But, it does help to look around grow sites to compare the space that you have and see what others are accomplishing with similar spaces and what approaches they are using.
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worldcitizen1723 wrote:Well uncle Ron, that makes sense....
(Sort of)
Probably what he was trying to explain to me
And, of course I was quite stoned : >
Ya filled the expert's shoes ..
I reread the question, and read the replies from others, and it seems we are all on the same page.
I could be stoned (actually at the moment I am), but I think we're in the wrong chapter. :shock: :wink: :lol:
Example - If you have a grow space of 100x100x100cm (or any size), and during consecutive grows you used 250/400/600/1000w :shock: lamps, your yield will increase as the wattage increases. If all lamps produce the same PAR (Photosynthetically Active Radiation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynth ... _radiation, the increase in yield will be attributed to the increase in Lumen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_(unit). Ex... 250w HPS = 25,000/1000w HPS = 130,000 http://www.1000bulbs.com/category/high- ... dium-lamps
This is probably what was meant, and then again maybe it wasn't... :lol:

My feet are still growing, so there's plenty of room in those shoes... :wink:
Happy farming...
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