Preparing for my first grow, some questions:

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Panjalin wrote:Hey guys!
I have for a while prepared for my first grow, and there are some things i would like some advice on.
My plan is to use autos for my first grow as i gather they will be more forgiving. I know i will mess up, so might as well work with something relatively easy first time off.

My space is a secret jardin tent 90 by 90 by 200 cm, with a 400w cooltube setup.
(the rest of it is the usual all in one thing. Got a digital ballast though.)

I am thinking using coco coir and Canna coco nutes (with rizothonic and so on. Whatever they say on their online nute calc thing).

How many plants should i go for? Was thinking something like 6. Maybe 8. No point of growing
to many plants under just a 400w. I would rather have fewer healthy ones than many starved betches!
Does smartpots and coco mix well? Was thinking smartpots would make sense but i am not sure. My gardening skill is kind of lacking...

I am in the process of assembling my gear and i knew it would get expensive, but damn that ph / ec stuff costs a fortune! Is it really that important for a grower that max do 8 plants? I understand why it is important but...


My strains for this run will be all autos, but i plan on going fem next batch. One of the reasons i am doing this is that i suffer from insomnia (although not super severe) so i plan on going heavily into indicas. My choises after a looong and confusing search (such a jungle out there!) is:

x3 afghan kush auto by world of seeds,
x3 Grape muerto auto by Barney's farm seeds
and for variety
x5 Pineapple express by G13 Labs.

Very indica dominant, but as i said that is kind of the point. If anyone have opinions/experience about what i choose i would love to hear them!

If i hustle getting my gear working, will i be able to grow this stuff before late february? Am going on a study tour to the Dam... :mrgreen:

And the most important question of all, what have i forgotten? That question plagues me!

Any input out there would be really appreciated.

-Pan
The first thing I'd do is cut and paste this post into several specialist growing sites. Most of them have new grower sections of some kind. You should get a better hit rate that way.

Most if not all of the answers you seek will be on those sites.


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good luck with your grow. what about airpots with coco (worked lovely for me) real easy to flush. the best auto i did by a clear mile was pandora (done in 62 ish days ) twice the yield of any auto i did. the easiest plants i grew were skunk #1 and LSD anyone can grow skunk #1 (51 days flower) and allows you to make a mistake or 2. and the only problem with the lsd (62 days flower) was it got big bloody quickly. keep reading new stuff on growing, buy a few more books, maybe upgrade some gear after first grow.. id also get some bubble bags for you trim..
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Start seedlings under T5 or CFL... 400w mh to strong for little ones. If you raise height to 3 feet so its not so intense they stretch.
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stuart1976 wrote:good luck with your grow. what about airpots with coco (worked lovely for me) real easy to flush. the best auto i did by a clear mile was pandora (done in 62 ish days ) twice the yield of any auto i did. the easiest plants i grew were skunk #1 and LSD anyone can grow skunk #1 (51 days flower) and allows you to make a mistake or 2. and the only problem with the lsd (62 days flower) was it got big bloody quickly. keep reading new stuff on growing, buy a few more books, maybe upgrade some gear after first grow.. id also get some bubble bags for you trim..
I only ever flush twice in coco,,,any more is a waste of time
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Why use autos when growing indoor? I hear the "it's easier" argument a lot but how much harder is it really?

You can just run the light non-stop till you wanna go into flower, then put the timer in at 12 on/12 off. If you wanna use a timer throughout, do 18 on/6 off at first, then 12/12 for flowering.

Expect plants to double in size (upward and sideways) since the switch to flowering.

I say this since all autoflowering strains have Ruderalis in them, which is a hardy wild hemp basically. They're useful if you're growing outside in a short season and don't wanna get caught by the first frosts, or you need an ultra-low profile plant for a balcony grow.

In any event, good luck! Your tent with a coolbox to boot is a great setup already, you should have no problems with temperatures or humidity.
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+ 1
good advice 8)
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I wouldn't expect Pineapple Express to help you sleep... Grew 3 different phenos, they we're am sativa dominant.

Growing auto is easier because IMO the biggest problem with my first time growing was the height of the plants, with auto it won't bother you.
I had to grew auto because my plants were in a garage during winter do I had to keep them under lights at least 20h a day so they don't freeze. But I loved the concept and still grow some in a small tent sometimes
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treetop wrote:
Panjalin wrote:Hey guys!
I have for a while prepared for my first grow, and there are some things i would like some advice on.
My plan is to use autos for my first grow as i gather they will be more forgiving. I know i will mess up, so might as well work with something relatively easy first time off.

My space is a secret jardin tent 90 by 90 by 200 cm, with a 400w cooltube setup.
(the rest of it is the usual all in one thing. Got a digital ballast though.)

I am thinking using coco coir and Canna coco nutes (with rizothonic and so on. Whatever they say on their online nute calc thing).

How many plants should i go for? Was thinking something like 6. Maybe 8. No point of growing
to many plants under just a 400w. I would rather have fewer healthy ones than many starved betches!
Does smartpots and coco mix well? Was thinking smartpots would make sense but i am not sure. My gardening skill is kind of lacking...

I am in the process of assembling my gear and i knew it would get expensive, but damn that ph / ec stuff costs a fortune! Is it really that important for a grower that max do 8 plants? I understand why it is important but...


My strains for this run will be all autos, but i plan on going fem next batch. One of the reasons i am doing this is that i suffer from insomnia (although not super severe) so i plan on going heavily into indicas. My choises after a looong and confusing search (such a jungle out there!) is:

x3 afghan kush auto by world of seeds,
x3 Grape muerto auto by Barney's farm seeds
and for variety
x5 Pineapple express by G13 Labs.

Very indica dominant, but as i said that is kind of the point. If anyone have opinions/experience about what i choose i would love to hear them!

If i hustle getting my gear working, will i be able to grow this stuff before late february? Am going on a study tour to the Dam... :mrgreen:

And the most important question of all, what have i forgotten? That question plagues me!

Any input out there would be really appreciated.

-Pan
The first thing I'd do is cut and paste this post into several specialist growing sites. Most of them have new grower sections of some kind. You should get a better hit rate that way.

Most if not all of the answers you seek will be on those sites.
I must say. I see this response a lot here. I don't know how this came about? Lazy stoners filled with contempt over what? Fuck all knows! This is a science, but not rocket science! There is no better Amsterdam site. There should be more pride in that. From my undestanding Dutch product took off because of American indoor growing inginutiy was imported. This can be as good as a knowledge base as any, and is I think. Use the search. The good growers will post the right shit when they feel like laughing at the starters. This is the circle of growing pains for all. :mrgreen: :arrow: :mrgreen:
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I'm not demanding people help you either. More constructive replies can be had than take yer arse to another forum... I mean if your gonna take the time to reply to a first timer... I don't mean to screw up ur thread tho man. I hope TT know not against him, seen this by others to. Grow thread a little slow is all I guess. All good. Sorry to hear your cooltube broke.... No local stores?
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youve checked out eBay right, you can get enough PH down for 3 grows for £20
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redeyezman wrote:I'm not demanding people help you either. More constructive replies can be had than take yer arse to another forum... I mean if your gonna take the time to reply to a first timer... I don't mean to screw up ur thread tho man. I hope TT know not against him, seen this by others to. Grow thread a little slow is all I guess. All good. Sorry to hear your cooltube broke.... No local stores?
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I own Grow Books from Jorge Cervantes,Rosenthal,Soma,Gren Green and other People.
When you have any problems with growing you can ask and i look the Books if i can find an answer for you ;)

The first Tipp i have is,start with Soil which is NOT fertilised,for example Plagron Light Mix,or BioBizz Light Mix.
Only then you know whats in the Earth,cause you put it there.So you can start with the fertilization Plan from your Fertilzer Brand (Canna,Hesi,Bio Bizz are the best) from Day 1,and you can be sure to not have too much nitrogen in the Earth when the Flowerings starts (delays Flower and makes leafy Buds)

When you have Problems with PH.,thats Easy,to lower the PH you use Lemmonacid (every drugstore,to clean lime from watercookers for example) or vinegar.To get them up again you can use Tepidwater (normaly 7 or more)
Or you can buy Pottassiumhydroxid (better Pottassium than Sodium).
But be very carefull with Pottasiumhydroxid it can make you blind or burn your skin like the most strong acid.
1 dustparticle in your Eye and your Blind.The Stuff even eats trough Glass!
So wear good Gloves and Googles when Handling it,and normaly you dont need it,when youve put too much Acid in the Water just add more new Water to balance it out.

I dont know Chemical Laws in your Country,but if youre allowed to Order,Order Phosphorous Acid (lowest Concentration avaible) and Nitric Acid (again lowest Concentration avaible-That Stuff is Explosive Ingredient NO1,dont try to get high concentrated you might get checked as possible Terrorist)
Nitric Acid contains mass of Oxygen and Nitrogen,and since its an Acid it lowers the PH,some Drops will do for a whole Gallon.
Phophorous Acid contains Phosphour which our Plants need in flowering to make bigger Buds.
So to lower the PH take Nitric Acid in Vegetation and P-Acid in Flowering

But PH normaly not realy matterrs on Soil,everything from 5 to 8 is ok in Soil.Only Hydroponic Growers need to watch their PH to numbers behind the , but Soil growers dont need to.
When your Tepid Household Water has a PH of 7 thats fine,you can use it for your Plants on Soil.
Best of course would be when you would buy destilled Water,which is Chlorine and Calcium free and has a PH of 7
Destilled Water with PH7 can be bought in 5 Liter Canisters in every Household Store (its needed for Steam-
Irons),Plants love it and its handy to mix fertilizers inside.
When the 5 Liter Canisters are empty,cut away the Top,put some Holes in the Bottom and you have a very nice 5 Liter Pot for Growing (its shape is ideal,a round pot always leaves ununused space between the Pots in your Growbox,but this canisters can be put together without space lost between them,there very good



With Fertilizers,there 3 Awesome Brands from Europe,mainly Netherlands which grow perfect Weed-Canna,Hesi and Bio Bizz.
For Organic Growers BioBizz is Choise No1,they offer a complete Pallette from Soils to Fertilizers complete Organic and Plants love it ;)
When you want real good fruity Taste in your Buds you must add Birdshit,better said Guano.Birds miss a special Chemical in their Body which transfers Urin-Acid to normal Urin,thats why their Shit is so fertile for Plants.
The best brand for Weed-Fertilzing is "Guanokalong"
Soma swears on it,his special recipe for best Tasting Weed ;)
(he wrote that in his Book "Organical Marijuana -Soma Style)


By the Way,to make clones,the best company comes from the UK its named "Growth Technologies".
They make Clonex,the best Rooting-Gel,they make Formulex,a foliage fertilzer desingned to feed Clones,and they make the awesome Root-Riot Cubes for Rooting.Root Riot is awesome,its composted organic material glued with organic glue,it feels like a normal sponge and looks like it,except its brown colour.Its very porous.
The Company makes a complete Set where you get all you need to make perfect Clones (Root Riot Propagation Kit)


And dont forget the two most common starter Problems are over-watering and over-fertilisation
Before you water the Plant dig away a bit of Earth with your fingers and check its 1-2 Inches Deep,when its bone dry there too you give alot of new Water,and then let it dry out again until the "Finger Check" showes Dry Soil.
When you buy unfertilized Soil and stick to fertilization Plan all should work.
When you use pre-fertilized Soil use one with around 12-14-24 NPK Ratio,this will do for a Month of Vegetative Growing.
The Leaves which are most near the bottom often dont get light,the Plant dont waste Energy on Leaves that dont gives her Energy back,so a "useless leaf" will be no longer supoorted from the Motherplant and get yellow and die.
Thats normal,you dont need to fertilize when the 2 lowest Leaves in the Shadow turn yellow.
But when Leaves in the Sun turn yellow the Plant needs more Nitrogen.
But when you stick to a used and proven Weed fertilizer like Canna,Hesi or BioBizz this should not happen ;)
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