The votes are in: VVD wins, Anti-Islam PVV tumbles, Big gain for Greens in exit poll

[OneHighMofo]

Right! Isn't liberalism great! I mean, who needs to preserve their national identity

Certainly not me - to my mind quite frankly national identity is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever had the misfortune to be lectured about.

Also; here in the UK - where we've had a huge influx of muslim immigrants since the 40's, the quality of life has gone up immeasurably in that period (in part due to a general widening of culture brought about by that migration in my opinion). So perhaps the lowering of your life quality is down to other factors that you should be looking closer to home to solve? Just a thought.

[OneHighMofo]

OMG!!! 10% of the population wasn't born here!!!!


...Quick, guard the windmills!!!! ....Hide the cheese!!! ....Encompass Zwarte Piet!!!! Protect all the poor, entrenched white people... They're being overrun by a small fraction of foreigners.... Some of whom may have intolerant views... We hate intolerance, so we better kick them all out before they put a mosque in my FEBO.

[macky]

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Right! Isn't liberalism great! I mean, who needs to preserve their national identity

Certainly not me - to my mind quite frankly national identity is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever had the misfortune to be lectured about.

Also; here in the UK - where we've had a huge influx of muslim immigrants since the 40's, the quality of life has gone up immeasurably in that period (in part due to a general widening of culture brought about by that migration in my opinion). So perhaps the lowering of your life quality is down to other factors that you should be looking closer to home to solve? Just a thought.
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Sure your not part Canadian?

[Waldo Swan]

Sorry mate, but you aren't going to convince me that hordes of illiterate and culturally inferior sub Saharan Africans crossing the Mediterranean into Italy are bringing something progressive and positive to Europe. That flood of muslim immigrants that the idiot Merkel invited into Europe sure made Cologne a nice place to celebrate new year's in 2015 going into 2016 didn't it?. These episodes are endless of how muslim immigration is "enhancing" the European way of life. Would you like me to give you more of countless examples? Common sense dictates that when you introduce a culture of barbarians into a civilized culture with different values, there are going to be some problems. Some of you are so paranoid about anything that you think smells of "racism" that you can't even open up to an honest discourse about it.

[OneHighMofo]

Sorry mate, but you aren't going to convince me that hordes of illiterate and culturally inferior sub Saharan Africans crossing the Mediterranean into Italy are bringing something progressive and positive to Europe. That flood of muslim immigrants that the idiot Merkel invited into Europe sure made Cologne a nice place to celebrate new year's in 2015 going into 2016 didn't it?. These episodes are endless of how muslim immigration is "enhancing" the European way of life. Would you like me to give you more of countless examples? Common sense dictates that when you introduce a culture of barbarians into a civilized culture with different values, there are going to be some problems. Some of you are so paranoid about anything that you think smells of "racism" that you can't even open up to an honest discourse about it.

For every example you bring to the table - there's an equal and opposite positive example.
There's a very good reason for that: You and I have different perspectives. I'm not going to waste my time trying to change your mind, I have no need, because:

Fortunately for me. The difference between our perspectives is that we already live in the multicultural world that I desire and you seem to be so upset about.

So beyond your pissing and moaning - I'm guessing you're going to continue to be a futile bundle of hatred absolutely neutralised by apathy because A) there's no course of action at all (that's within your power) that you can take which won't fall into the category of bigotry/violence - which I'm assuming (since you're pissing and moaning on the internet about it) you're too lazy/stoned/scared to undertake. And B) I'm rather pleased to say that there's no country you can travel to that supports your position. *edit* perhaps North Korea will have you?

It's a tough old world isn't it?

Ce la vie.

[Old Timer]

Sorry mate, but you aren't going to convince me that hordes of illiterate and culturally inferior sub Saharan Africans crossing the Mediterranean into Italy are bringing something progressive and positive to Europe. That flood of muslim immigrants that the idiot Merkel invited into Europe sure made Cologne a nice place to celebrate new year's in 2015 going into 2016 didn't it?. These episodes are endless of how muslim immigration is "enhancing" the European way of life. Would you like me to give you more of countless examples? Common sense dictates that when you introduce a culture of barbarians into a civilized culture with different values, there are going to be some problems. Some of you are so paranoid about anything that you think smells of "racism" that you can't even open up to an honest discourse about it.

Yet again, you're painting them all with the same brush!
The "honest discourse" is; I don't know the exact number, but if I'm not mistaken, well over a million immigrants entered Europe in the last few years.
A handful of them have committed atrocious crimes or terrorism. But you call them all "barbarians".
That's honest! Facts are usually honest.

[macky]

This is not immigration policy dude ,these are refugees ..One million that covers maybe half the children [imagine picture of dick]

[Waldo Swan]

For every example you bring to the table - there's an equal and opposite positive example.

Really? Do you want to try that little contest?

You and I have different perspectives.

I am absolutely certain of that. We agree on something!

So beyond your pissing and moaning - I'm guessing you're going to continue to be a futile bundle of hatred absolutely neutralised by apathy because A) there's no course of action at all (that's within your power) that you can take which won't fall into the category of bigotry/violence - which I'm assuming (since you're pissing and moaning on the internet about it) you're too lazy/stoned/scared to undertake.

Voting is one action I have taken, for Trump, which has so many on the left wearing adult diapers these days apparently.

As far as being too lazy, stoned, scared yada yada because I'm talking about it on the internet, talking about it on the Internet is part of the action of spreading thought, knowledge, and awareness. Regarding being too "stoned" perhaps the proverbial pot should come out of the cannabis cloud to look at the kettle a moment. I haven't smoked weed in ten months. I'm saving myself for the dam in May when it will have been a year since I've smoked and weed will be novel, fresh, and exciting again as opposed to being a chronic pothead with short term memory loss and mantitties as a result of the testosterone loss from being a daily habitual smoker.

I'm rather pleased to say that there's no country you can travel to that supports your position.

Really, have you ever heard of a small country west of Europe called the United States that just voted Donald Trump into power? That country certainly supports my position last time I checked, or have you been so deep inside the cannabis cave you didn't realize Obama is no longer president? Have you heard of the muslim ban that he is trying to implement from certain countries? Are you aware of how much he has been cracking down on illegal immigration from Latin America? Have you seen the swelling number of fed up Europeans who have made people like Geert Wilders, Marine Le Pen, and Frauke Petry a challenge to your so called socialist liberal leftist governments who still reel from guilt over Nazi Germany so they think they have to let any mongrel from some third world shithole enter their country and then put them on welfare? Have you ever heard of a country called Hungary (to name just one), which is very much in alignment with my "position".


Funny thing is, in all the time over the years I've spent in the dam I don't recall engaging someone or someone trying to engage me in a political discussion. I don't go there to talk about politics. I go there to smoke weed, screw whores, and enjoy the beauty of that magnificent European city, just like I will do in May. I bond with people over cannabis there, not fucking politics. And I don't usually enter political discussions on this board but have had the urge lately. Rest assured in May all you will be getting from me are weed reports, politics be damned.

[macky]

I took action an voted Trump . Then have you heard of a country that agrees with me America?
Then every time I visit Dam Huh ? Your not Dutch,now I think your talking through your ass.
News flash , buyer remorse is sweeping America not fascism

[tot ziens]

The man titties from cannabis is a myth.

[Old Timer]

Really, have you ever heard of a small country west of Europe called the United States that just voted Donald Trump into power? Have you heard of the muslim ban that he is trying to implement from certain countries?

Now tell me that a muslim ban is not painting them all with the same brush too?
You are entitled to be an ignorant, racist bigot if you so choose, just own it instead of trying to convince us that it's something else.

[Waldo Swan]

You are entitled to be an ignorant, racist bigot if you so choose, just own it instead of trying to convince us that it's something else.

Oh yada yada ho hum zzzzzzzzzz. Smoke another bowl Old Timer you'll be alright.

Ignorant? Good luck pinning that on me.

Racist and bigot? Probably and certainly by your definition so fine. So what? I'll own that. So what if I'm a racist and a bigot? Good, now that we've gotten that out of the way we can move on with the discussion right? Those labels no longer discredit someone or shut down a conversation. The race card has been played so much for so little it no longer has any power, legitimacy or efficacy. Welcome to 2017.

[Old Timer]

You are entitled to be an ignorant, racist bigot if you so choose, just own it instead of trying to convince us that it's something else.

Oh yada yada ho hum zzzzzzzzzz. Smoke another bowl Old Timer you'll be alright.

Ignorant? Good luck pinning that on me.

Racist and bigot? Probably and certainly by your definition so fine. So what? I'll own that. So what if I'm a racist and a bigot? Good, now that we've gotten that out of the way we can move on with the discussion right? Those labels no longer discredit someone or shut down a conversation. The race card has been played so much for so little it no longer has any power, legitimacy or efficacy. Welcome to 2017.

Racism and bigotry = ignorance!
The labels totally discredit too! At least for most.

[OneHighMofo]

why the fuck would anyone waste their time interacting with a self confessed bigot? I'm done with this bullshit. 'One last hurrah' though eh?

I have no idea what kind of ignoramus one needs to be in order to put their faith for progess in a halfwit like trump but I tell you what - it's fucking hilarious to watch. The man can barely string a cohesive sentence together and makes Bush jnr look like a genius - quite an achievement!

To address your point:
I see trumplecunt 'trying' to enact a travel ban on muslims and continually get slapped away by judges like the silly little man that he is so perhaps your little bigoted bubble of the USA support your position - even your dimwit president agrees that's true. But your country as a whole? Don't make me laugh

[spidergawd]

This thread is just going round and round. Perhaps it should be let go and we agree to disagree.