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I've been scammed myself in the past,and i would not knowingly set any 1 up for a scam.i saw this forum after googling the topic of discussion,and just thought i'd let people know my xperiences.i see where u're coming from,but i will still post the outcome and u can decide for yourselves,its really no skin off my nose.hopefully i will be smokin some quality #2 soon.PEACE

did you both order from damtodoortsep?

would love to hear results, good luck

tis not wise writing about these websites on an open forum, anybody can read them. i'd advise you guys to use your private msg function, to chat to one another about them. if it does work you run the risk of getting it busted or shutting down to the uk like budmail & the likes.

Fair enough Weemanio, makes sense. Sorry if I have pe'ed off anyone, please make allowance for the noob. Will pm people who have an interest in this in the future.

no dont be silly dude!


e have very limited resources in or country, just dont want to see the ones we do have going up the swanny!


keep it underground brother!

Cool weemanio,underground it shall be.B-)

I agree with Weemanio, but what I'm about to post can do no harm, other than to someone who deserves it.
Just to let you know that René Prins (Enjoy - Dutch Secret) is not reliable - he'll do well for you at first and there's a lot of "my dear friend" talk, but after a while he'll start to say that he's posted orders and then when they don't arrive he'll say he can't replace them or that he's re-sent, but those don't arrive, either - funnily enough, when you threaten to 'shop' him to the Dutch police, the orders miraculously reappear. He'll write that he's been ill, having a nervous breakdown, etc. but he'll still take your money. I did threaten him, as he owed me 24g altogether, and I got my orders immediately, although he'd been accusing me of pretending (my dear friend) not to have received them, but of course I can't use him any longer. He's a rip-off and a dreadful liar. He also directed me to a friend of his, an African guy in France, who also ripped me off.
He started a forum for his "friends" to chat to each other and he assured everyone that he wouldn't be reading it - HA HA. Of course, it was really specifically so that he could look and see what people thought of him. I have it all on a CD, though. He likes to have ill people as clients, because it's much easier to manipulate and bully ill people, who actually need it as medecine.
His packing and posting are good, though, and the quality is good and consistent - if and when he sends it, which is rarely. He can take up to a year to fill an order!
I wouldn't use the other one that's been half-mentioned here, not because they're dishonest, but because they've had too much exposure and a lot gets lost, stolen or confiscated.
It's all very discouraging.

i tried to get in touch with b##m### yesterday as of yet no reply but someone posted he was back up an running so will give it a little try,hopefully let you lot know when i know

it appears our friends cannot help us at present due 'problems',anyhow this what they said to me,
We are not able to process orders to the UK or Ireland at this
time. We are currently working on some new ideas for the site and
some new shipping methods. Once we allow UK Ireland customers to
start ordering again, you will only be able to place flat packaged
orders. Thanks for your attention to this matter. Please feel free
to keep your e-mail active and check back next week for any changes
in policy. Thanks and take care for now.

BM
ah well must try to find another source,maybe closer to home,but will keep trying

anyone living in amsterdam? 5gram bags in a dvd case... sell em for E50 with postage...buy it for 5 or 6 a gram..... everyones happy

Klevara wrote:I agree with Weemanio, but what I'm about to post can do no harm, other than to someone who deserves it.
Just to let you know that René Prins (Enjoy - Dutch Secret) is not reliable - he'll do well for you at first and there's a lot of "my dear friend" talk, but after a while he'll start to say that he's posted orders and then when they don't arrive he'll say he can't replace them or that he's re-sent, but those don't arrive, either - funnily enough, when you threaten to 'shop' him to the Dutch police, the orders miraculously reappear. He'll write that he's been ill, having a nervous breakdown, etc. but he'll still take your money. I did threaten him, as he owed me 24g altogether, and I got my orders immediately, although he'd been accusing me of pretending (my dear friend) not to have received them, but of course I can't use him any longer. He's a rip-off and a dreadful liar. He also directed me to a friend of his, an African guy in France, who also ripped me off.
He started a forum for his "friends" to chat to each other and he assured everyone that he wouldn't be reading it - HA HA. Of course, it was really specifically so that he could look and see what people thought of him. I have it all on a CD, though. He likes to have ill people as clients, because it's much easier to manipulate and bully ill people, who actually need it as medecine.
His packing and posting are good, though, and the quality is good and consistent - if and when he sends it, which is rarely. He can take up to a year to fill an order!
I wouldn't use the other one that's been half-mentioned here, not because they're dishonest, but because they've had too much exposure and a lot gets lost, stolen or confiscated.
It's all very discouraging.

thats fucking sickening!

Weemanio wrote:thats fucking sickening!

Indeed yes, Weemanio, but most humans are ___ing sickening, as you will probably discover. I think René also enjoys, as do many people, having people depending on him, begging him, adoring and thanking him, treating him as a saviour. Very ill people do that, even when he's ripping them off. Again, not uncommon at all.
He pretends that any profits go to "projects" in Africa. Sure.
If you get ill, just try to get an illness that can be controlled by legal medecine. If you're a recreational user, you're a victim of commercially-motivated injustice, but if you're a medical one, you're really in the pits.
Yes, Ash333, I don't know why people don't do it - it wouldn't be difficult. (After all, look at what René's got away with, for years.) Someone could fund a year's holiday in Holland like that.

Totally understand your frustration, but I don't think you should have posted the guy's full name...his first name should be enough to warn others.

Then again, if he is ripping people off...I dunno, but can you be 100% sure that your goods were not taken by postmen?

Actually, I didn't realise I had, but his full name is easy enough to find out. He uses it for trading, and his real address too. Yes, of course I'm 100% sure - this is over 8 or 9 years, with many, many, repeated incidents, and anyway I know him. I didn't report him because sometimes he'd send and he has ill people depending on him - I didn't want to deprive them of the few that he actually was sending. No, I really know this guy - I was one of the adoreres, I even sent him presents! (Idiot.)
He tells people that the Dutch police know what he does and allow it because he's helping cripples, but when I wrote that I'd put all his site pages and forum on a CD and would send it to the polis if he didn't cough up, for me and some others, he panicked and sent what he owed us.

Anyway, I have to go - I mainly joined the forum to warn people, as a friend sent me a page from this site where René was mentioned as O.K. and I emailed Lemming to say and he suggested I put it on the forum, which I have now, but I have to go, as my lease runs out in 4 weeks and I have to move.
Take care,
Klevara

FYI took about a month and two follow up emails for 5 g of ketama gold. From secret/enjoy to Land of the Free. Expensive and a long wait - yes. Good stuff not available where I am at - you bet! Not sure I'd order again due to cost but it did come through.