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cantona7
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Post by cantona7 »

Ingwey Gooblebogger wrote:
Im just guessing but I dont think Ingwey was digging or insulting anyone, I believe he was simply listing stereotypes people use, some people cant swallow thier own stereotype but base their beliefs on others when none are politicaly correct and only cover a minority of the race or nationality in question.
For the record I dont even follow football at all, but I think its unfair to label them all, just because a small amount have been know to cause trouble, just as canadians shouldnt all be labeled as dull or self righteous just because a few can be, the same goes with other races and nationalities.
BING BING BING ..... you ARE correct!!

As you correctly noted, I WAS listing stereotypes AND doing so to illustrate that all ethnicities / nationalities are not immune to being stereotyped.

People seem to be AOK when stereotyping other nationalities, but when stereotypes of their own particluar ethnicitie's/nationalitie's are used they become incensed.
so its not ok for someone to attack your travelers but its ok for you to call canadians dull/self rightious, americans stupid and obnoxious or attack the germans and french? doesn't seem cool to me.
iv been traveling alot since i was a little kid and i havent really noticed one group of tourists who were worse than the other. except maybe japanese tourists who are loud in and or take pictures in in appropriate places. thats not a huge deal though.
you guys ned to smoke a j..do a vape..bong hit or w/e and calm down..this is the internet people. not that big of a deal.
First, I was using those stereotype to make a point ABOUT stereotypes (see above!!). Second, I am NOT English, nor am I a particularly big fan of football.

Regarding what's cool: IMO, a lack of reading comprehension is NOT cool.

What sport creates riots on a regular basis like football ( soccer ) ?
None that are played in North America that i can think of .
Part of that i think is do to the fact in North America sports ( lets use baseball as the example ) teams travel massive distances for games and have in many cases long seasons ( 162 games for baseball ) so it is unusual to have the visiting fans be more than 2% ( if that )of the attendance .
The other possible difference is , it is not socially acceptable to go to any professional sporting match wasted ( drunk ) , you probobly would not get in , and if you did they either would not serve you or cut you off quickly.
As for the dig at canadians ...... hmm i find that insulting but also very interesting .
Why is it do you think that is felt ?
Most polls and people that i come in contact seem to think we are a pretty great bunch , very much the peacekeepers and not really hated by anyone .
Please elaborate , im very curios to hear more.
Really IKO?!?!
If you claim to live in BC, then you must either be VERY young and/or have a poor memory! You do NOT recall the Vancouver 1994 Stanley Cup Riots? How about basketball riots, or baseball riots.... Maybe those were all a conspiracy of the media to sell fishwrap?

The distance factor does act as a violence moderator (but NOT eliminator), unless there is a "subway series" playoff.

You might not get into GM place pissed, BUT there are bars inside and there is nothing to stop you from getting completely shitfaced once inside. (However, at the fucking outragous prices for, at best, crappy beer and the long queues for the pissers, I would't buy one beer in that shithole!)

There was no dig at Canadians? Those are SOME of the stereotypes of Canadians!! Have you NEVER heard those stereotypes before?? Next time you stereotype someone else's nationality (or you hear your media, TV show, whatever doing so) you can realize that Canadians can also be stereotyped in an equally cruel manner! (In my opinion, if you are going to dish it out, then should be prepared to get some back! )

The polls you are reading are for you own (Canadian) consumption, so they are feel good bullshit (i.e. propaganda or mental masturbation!).

Finally, I am Canadian. However, I able to explore, analyse, and laugh at the foibles/shortcomings/stereotypes of my countrymen and countrywomen.

you know what ingwey i was going to reply to this in a defensive/sardonic manner but alas im going to go another route. although i do post a good amount on this forum i'll admit im guilty of sometimes scanning a post and not properly reading the whole post, esp if its long and in need of some cliff notes(not saying thats the case here). and in this case i guess i should have read closer. admittedly all i saw i guess was the burn at canadians and americans that i guess you were apparently using as examples. sorry i jumped the gun.


that said though just because i didn't properly read your post didn't imo give you the right to make a dig at me and question my reading comprehension as i never really made a dig at you. im all about taking it if you dished it out but i dont think i really dished anything out here.


-Mike aka cantona

on a side note dont know about the other fellow but i vaguely remember the 1994 stanley cup riots(i was like 9). what a series that was. pavel bure back then :shock:


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Post by darkglobe »

The Specials playing Stereotype live in Amsterdam...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1HSXToy ... re=related

"He's just a stereotype,he drinks his age in pints"...
"That cats something i can't explain"
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Post by HighJackerrr »

I was in Amsterdam that weekend. As a matter of fact,. I was with my lady having a late evening beer and a smoke over on the back deck of the Grasshopper (the one on the water, across from Central Station) at around 11-11.30 when a bunch of them came over and smashed the place up in a "drive-by" kind of way...roaring down the street, causing havoc, throwing bottles, etc until the riot police chased them all toward the west side of the city. Perfectly good atmosphere ruined for a little while....and a little bit of a buzz kill for those sitting closest to the street and front entrance.

Jas
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