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[indk]

That is some really interesting information...

I have had many years of wondering about peyote in amsterdam...

That is pretty expensive, but better yet is that you say that it is available....

Something to consider when making my plans to amsterdam....

More about peyote is it cool??

Read 'Carlos Casteneda' The Teachings of Don Juan, a cool book - in the 70s a U.S. student became the understudy to a Mexican shaman, and peyote was central to his many bonkers experiences. I would add though that many consider peyote to be rather specialised, very full on and for the more experienced spiritually minded and brave space cadet only. In mexico they are not taken for recreational use, instead to shape-shift, astral travel and for entering the 'spirit world', they would be the last thing id take for a laugh, stick to the hawaiin or thai mushies for that, or even better goold old english psylocybin mushies if you know where to find them..

Haha, Casteneda...first three books are well worthy of a read, his other 3 start to lose it imo, as if he was writing for the money.

[templeball]

That is some really interesting information...

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More about peyote is it cool??

Read 'Carlos Casteneda' The Teachings of Don Juan, a cool book - ..

Haha, Casteneda...first three books are well worthy of a read, his other 3 start to lose it imo, as if he was writing for the money.

Agreed, I lost interest after book 3 also, still wonder if he was right about a room having a 'right' place to be, where you are most powerful, able to resist another shamans attcks etc, one of those concepts that does your head in for years if you let it.....

[indk]

Agreed, I lost interest after book 3 also, still wonder if he was right about a room having a 'right' place to be, where you are most powerful, able to resist another shamans attcks etc, one of those concepts that does your head in for years if you let it.....

But if the room is "right" then that creates a correlation between "right & wrong" ...which apparently is only a product within our minds & prescribed teachings. It could be said he was on to something regarding a mindset (or a "place") where nothing can harm one's self though, where emotions like happiness, regret etc are only things perpetuated by the ego in order to manifest a sense of 'self', & that realising this can lead to a form of 'true freedom'...i'm still yet to achieve that, but it's hard when your mind has to digest an entirely new perspective from so few pages

Ok, maybe i've lost the plot, it's been so long since I read anything by him I'm probably blabbering an incoherent mess

one of those concepts that does your head in for years if you let it.....

Like a perpetual dream

[templeball]

Agreed, I lost interest after book 3 also, still wonder if he was right about a room having a 'right' place to be, where you are most powerful, able to resist another shamans attcks etc, one of those concepts that does your head in for years if you let it.....

But if the room is "right" then that creates a correlation between "right & wrong" ...which apparently is only a product within our minds & prescribed teachings. It could be said he was on to something regarding a mindset (or a "place") where nothing can harm one's self though, where emotions like happiness, regret etc are only things perpetuated by the ego in order to manifest a sense of 'self', & that realising this can lead to a form of 'true freedom'...i'm still yet to achieve that, but it's hard when your mind has to digest an entirely new perspective from so few pages

Ok, maybe i've lost the plot, it's been so long since I read anything by him I'm probably blabbering an incoherent mess

one of those concepts that does your head in for years if you let it.....

Like a perpetual dream

........deepest chat ive had here
the thing that plagued me was, as ever, wondering whether it is all a load of old bollocks or not and hence how much of oneself to invest in the concept if you know what I mean. Its done my head in ever since because what if its true, then I should be a lot more aware of it etc etc, as I go about my daily life. Its one of several reasons why I stopped going on these torturous spiritual voyages and decided to be a more happy shallow stonehead type person

[bleak]

The people responsible for banning the mushrooms in NL are pretty clueless.

The ban in NL applies to a specific list of mushroom species/strains. It shows how much they know about drugs It would be like banning only specific strains of weed but allowing others

As a result, you can still buy 'truffles' in smartshops. They are basically just shrooms that grow underground, same drug in a different shape.

[templeball]

The people responsible for banning the mushrooms in NL are pretty clueless.

The ban in NL applies to a specific list of mushroom species/strains. It shows how much they know about drugs It would be like banning only specific strains of weed but allowing others

As a result, you can still buy 'truffles' in smartshops. They are basically just shrooms that grow underground, same drug in a different shape.

I wouldnt agree they are the same thing, a lot of people moan that truffles are a lot weaker/less trippy/less visuals and are a like a mushroom-lite experience, some of my friends have moaned they dont get much off them at all, others seem to be pleasantly surprised, peyote is another matter, if you count that as a truffle!

[indk]

thing that plagued me was, as ever, wondering whether it is all a load of old bollocks or not and hence how much of oneself to invest in the concept if you know what I mean. Its done my head in ever since because what if its true, then I should be a lot more aware of it etc etc, as I go about my daily life. Its one of several reasons why I stopped going on these torturous spiritual voyages and decided to be a more happy shallow stonehead type person

I kind of know what you're saying about it all being bollocks, & somewhat agree with you. CC milked the whole ideal to make money, something that contradicts the ideal he apparently believed. His first experiences with Don Juan (say first 2 books) to me are real insights into a shaman's way of life. I'd probably go to say it's a "new-age" form of shamanism as his ancestors would, imo, have been much more intouch with the natural world than himself. I mean that in the sense that they lived, breathed, & essentially were apart of the natural world, whereas Juan bought his clothes, his food instead of hunting, gathering etc. It's unreal to think how much purchasing things detatches us all from the natural world. We live in our pre-made houses, sleeping in our pre-made bedding, eating pre-made food & living what some would call a pre-made life. We cut down tree's (i'm not talking of them kind of tree's, even though we should be using them like we use actual tree's ) & print a substance we call 'ink' onto it & call it "money", giving everything we 'create' a 'meaning' to justify it's 'existence' (but since when did existence need to be justified? ); all without an ounce of thought to where any of it comes from. We forget that we ourselves, together with every living thing on this planet, are Earthlings. That connection with a "collective consiouness" lost due to a manufactured image of "self" (importance/entightlement).

How much of yourself, your life, do you dedicate to the teachings, or how much do you utilise in your daily life is? It's up to you. The point to me is to not do what is "right or wrong", but to embrace life & adapt whatever teachings you pick up a long the way to your life as you see fit. Quite frankly if anyone was to take it to the utter extreme then they'd be a fool. The knowledge passed on isn't mean to obeyed like some bible, it's there to give people a new sense of perspective, a knowledge that has the potential to enlighten. It opens the mind to something it can't comprehend, & if you try to force your mind to accept it you're more than likely gonna' crumble...or go insane, either way you're not gonna' benefit from the knowledge passed onto you.

*On a random note, since we're talking psychedelics, I find it remarkably scary but also comforting that DMT is produced in everything that is alive. What is even more remarkable is that the pineal gland in our brains secret e this substance every time we dream...weird huh? Tie that together with the old belief that we are all one, & the new theory of quantum physics & there's apretty interesting picture forming imo...anyway, I digress (some may argue I did that within the first paragraph )*

Just think though that if me & you both went throughout our daily lives scrutinising everything we take for granted we wouldn't be able to live the life we enjoy, & even if we wanted to live a life like Don Juan it wouldn't be functional for the lives that we're living. I'd love to wander the earth in a shamanistic manner but it's just not possible in this day & era.

It is important, well was for me (& still is I suppose), to learn from them though, the teachings. adapt them into one's life in a way that you see fit.

...Okay, I've like totally lost my train of thought, & re-reading/editing little bit's my mind is starting to melt (or did it melt a few years back?...hmmm ) I have a feeling you know exactly what I mean by my mind melting though

I'm gonna post this up anyway, but take from it what you will, I don't expect it to make much sense ha!

Also there's countless spelling & grammar mistakes, but you'll get the jist i'm sure

........deepest chat ive had here

Haha, just imagine sitting in a CC for a T&T ...

[Newbie 2 dah Dubbie]

You guys got me interested in getting a copy of that book - in my shopping cart on Amazon

My husband really wants to try DMT but haven't been able to find any info on how to attain.. we've read lots about how it can expand the mind - and i think it is amazing is in every living thing and you use when sleeping.

[indk]

You guys got me interested in getting a copy of that book - in my shopping cart on Amazon

My husband really wants to try DMT but haven't been able to find any info on how to attain.. we've read lots about how it can expand the mind - and i think it is amazing is in every living thing and you use when sleeping.

I should really dig out my copy of "A Separate Reality", the second book I believe. IT's probably my favourite, but I'd advise reading the first before

I've never met anyone who knows of a person who supplies DMT, but when I do decide to try it I'll make it myself. From what I've read on the internet it's a simple (if you know basic chemistry) extraction. Takes a bit of time, but i'd feel much more comfortable knowing that i'm getting it unadulterated. Plus there's satisfaction of diy'ing it

There's various methods that a quick google search will bring up. If you decide to do you own extraction then i'd recommend buying some of this: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trks ... Categories

It's a type of bark that's used for dying pigment into clothing etc...perfectly legal to buy

[Newbie 2 dah Dubbie]

I should really dig out my copy of "A Separate Reality", the second book I believe. IT's probably my favourite, but I'd advise reading the first before

I've never met anyone who knows of a person who supplies DMT, but when I do decide to try it I'll make it myself. From what I've read on the internet it's a simple (if you know basic chemistry) extraction. Takes a bit of time, but i'd feel much more comfortable knowing that i'm getting it unadulterated. Plus there's satisfaction of diy'ing it

There's various methods that a quick google search will bring up. If you decide to do you own extraction then i'd recommend buying some of this: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trks ... Categories

It's a type of bark that's used for dying pigment into clothing etc...perfectly legal to buy

I found this link for how to extract it --- http://www.dmtextraction.org/mimosa1dmtextraction.htm seems kind of involved but maybe something we could do

What is the name of the first book - ? he has a few

[indk]

The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge

[Pauli Wallnuts]

according to soulrider last week, mushrooms are still available under the counter, im not gonna give the name of the shop away, just to say its located on amsterdams oldest street

[indk]

according to soulrider last week, mushrooms are still available under the counter, im not gonna give the name of the shop away, just to say its located on amsterdams oldest street

I'll have to track this down, I fancy tripping on the Saturday i'm there

If you could PM me the place you're speaking of it'd help immensely in my quest,

[archieboy]

Yeah a PM would be appreciated here as well!

Going back on Saturday and wouldn't mind some mexicans! Will be steering clear of the hawaiians lol

Just for the record what is Amsterdam's oldest street?

Cheers

[Kermit]

according to soulrider last week, mushrooms are still available under the counter, im not gonna give the name of the shop away, just to say its located on amsterdams oldest street

You can PM me that shop, i might take a shroom trip down memory lane over 420 week.