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DC · Post by DC » Tue 15th Sep 2009 07:58 pm

Goodstuff!.

Technically speaking, it's not too bad, couple of wee moments where it got a bit loose. I think if you introduced some kind of sampler to yer mixing setup, you'd have more ability to mix further into tracks and actually enjoy the outcome more.

user54321 · Post by **user54321** » Thu 17th Sep 2009 10:44 am

Cheers, DC.

The majority of those records have live drums... Hence quick mixes and slippy beats but with fairly standard 4/4 i had mixes running 2 mins and upwards... I played about 3 mins of the MJ remix before you hear the bass and the track becomes prominent and you even know it's being played but even with the remixes it's been mixes of live drums... That's like trying to get 2 people to play drums at the same time when one died 5 years before the other was born

That's the challenge with disco/funk/boogie/whatever, you gotta wrestle with every mix =) I've been mixing nearly 15 years now, computer clocked 4/4 is no challenge at all. Glad you liked it, though, dude. I'd much rather listen to a guy who couldn't beat match worth a shit and played good records than somebody who was technically brilliant but every track sounded the same or worse, shit

Cheese, i'll send over some links when i get home... Using my phone at a bus stop just now...

user54321 · Post by **user54321** » Thu 17th Sep 2009 10:50 am

In fact... That tempest trio track jumps about like crazy - try and find a copy and feed it into ableton and then set the drums ... You'll see what i mean, technically shit like that shouldn't even be mixed. Keeping it together takes no small amount of work

especially as it's just 2 Mk2s and a mixer you're using, old skoo' ....

DC · Post by DC » Thu 17th Sep 2009 05:32 pm

"What!, a sampler with quality plastic playing!..Blasphemer!"

I should've said 'further into the tracks..without having to work so hard'. I can hear when yer mixin, it's only a couple of times I can hear it for the wrong reasons and that's mostly because I'm listening through studio monitors and not a sound system. But if ya gave a sampler ago, you could lift small loops, riffs, vocal parts etc and bring them forward, which would free up some time for when yer having to wrestle with 2 live drummers for a couple of minutes.

It doesn't make it easier, it creates it's own set of challenges and rewards, but it can make mixes clearer, especially with live and older music. You should find it gets ya thinkin 'outside of the box' more too, like havin a 3rd MK2, but better as sometimes when it goes right yer kinda ad hoc producing, while in the mix instead of with the mix itself, which, as ya know is what DJs are actually doin anyway. Try it, it'll get ya buzzin!.

Embrace some technology you plastic junkie...you!.

blackshore · Post by **blackshore** » Fri 18th Sep 2009 12:01 pm

I love Ableton, but I think for disco etc with live drums that if you use the markers and and quantise you lose the "loose" feeling to the track that Neldo was talking about - although you can combat this by just quantising the intro and outro for mixing purposes, keeping the rest of the track unquatised

Neldo - I used to DJ full time 88-95 but only occasionally now, still keep my hand in on production making edits of old tracks etc - I use Cubase for edits and mess with Ableton for mixes

Still got 15,000 records of which I am slowly working through 12000 of which selling I am selling on discogs

Big fan of DJs that mix up a lot of old disco and house with newer stuff Rahaan/Maurice Fulton/Rub and Tug/DJ Harvey etc

This is a favourite mixtape - Maurice Fulton for Futureboogie - amazing selection/mixing/arrangement - I think he used CDJ's for this to extend intro and outros etc

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=65P413CG

Neldo, you should check out the forum at www.djhistory.com , I think it would be right up your street

DC - you seem to know a bit about production what you into?

user54321 · Post by **user54321** » Wed 30th Sep 2009 07:48 pm

DC wrote: "What!, a sampler with quality plastic playing!..Blasphemer!"

Hehe, you knows it... I get what you're saying, I more meant that I only have 2 Techies and a mixer, and there's bound to be slippiness involved. I reckon I had a good grip on the fuckers,. I would say that, though

I've heard folk who get paid a great deal of paperwork mangle live drums together like 2 cats in a washing machine...

Blackshore - been a big fan of DJH for a long time. Hammer, nail & head that it's right up my street. I'm a massive fan of Maurice Fulton.. downloading that now. I was at a street carnival in Glasgow (my home) a few weeks ago and was dancing on a pavement in Yorkhill to Rahaan dishing out the Disco goodness. Was an all day affair with all manner of funk muscles being flexed. Finished up with Stacey Pullen and Theo Parish. I think I strutted my legs clean off that day/night.

Hit me with yer discogs and there's every chance I'll sell my arse to get my hands on some of the stuff you're selling. Old Disco records can cost the earth but I've been stuck in the loop of buying it for near on 15 years and I couldn't ever hope to replace that habit with buying MP3s. It's like being a junkie, no matter how many you have - you always want more.

user54321 · Post by **user54321** » Wed 30th Sep 2009 08:10 pm

http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/electricfrog.html

There's the video to that street carnival. What a fucking hoot that was.

A few of my mates are in it near the start but I run away from cameras, I've got one of those faces that just can't hide how magoofed I am

Great wee video.