Dutch soft drugs advocates critical of new cabinet policy

[doobydave]

The coffeeshops should withhold the tax proportion of money made from weed/hash sales and demand the government enable them to sever their links to criminals.

Still, tourists should see a dramatic price reduction for the pot that they buy off the street, as there will be no shop/staff to support, and no tax to pay.

[Kingdoc]

Terrible idea, with the RLD they'll still get loads of tourists and people will continue to drink and cause the problems. Not to mention people will just buy from the CS and then resell to tourists.

And surely it is against some EU ruling to discriminate people based on their nationality/where they live?

What RLD? its just 50% of what it was 10 years ago,Also they are not immune from any shake up either! looks like the johns will have to find somewhere else to fuck pretty soon as well.

[Kingdoc]

Cabinet plan to tackle drug tourists criticised

The cabinet's plan to introduce a pass system that would prevent foreigners visiting coffee shops - marijuana cafés - leaked out Wednesday
and AD reports that the Cannabis and Coffeeshop Association (BCD) is furious.

Michael Veling of the BCD fumed: "Banning foreigners is discrimination, pure and simple".

The government's national marijuana pass will only be available to Dutch nationals over the age of 18 and restricts the number of coffee shop visits to one per day and a maximum purchase of three grams.

The government move comes in response to an increase in problems caused by drug tourists in towns and cities along the Dutch borders.

In response, Veling said “the pass system will force drug tourists to buy on the streets and that will cause huge problems".

Maastricht Mayor Gerd Leers has enthusiastically welcomed the pass plan but notes that the European Court could rule against the proposal.

Meanwhile, coffeeshop owners in the southern border city are not in favour of the plan.

"Drug tourists spend EUR 140 million in Maastricht annually. That equals 1,900 full-time jobs, it's economic madness to ban them," said a spokesperson for the local BCD.

Source

You know what puffin the guy who owns the hotel where i stay once asked me "how do you get you smoke back home" i went on to say its kinda like a web of friends/family & friend of a friend kinda thing that are "house dealers" & sometimes even on the street,He gasped @ the thought of that & i can be pretty sure hes not alone over there! ie back to the stashes under the bar stools in the mellow yellow type situation.

[Kingdoc]

Why is there always this talk of changing Amsterdam? I love the place as it is and I never want anything to change about it. Sure I could live without the RLD but I wouldnt want to! The reason I go to Holland (and many others) is not just to get high but because of the laid back culture, if they lose this then I will be going somewhere else 3 times a year!

It stinks of political dogma,@ least people seem to be fighting this s**t now witch is great news.

[Trichome_Dense]

I can see this bill not being passed thru on 1 ground only!!!

Lets not forget why Weed has enjoyed semi-legal status in the Netherlands... because it was becoming too much of a problem in the first place. By making it a somewhat controlled substance and easy to get hold of in a semi legal way, they had in effect - cut the problem in half.

Now, by making these drugs available only to the citizens of the country is selsective and will cause no end of trouble for the govt. The most obvious one willl be the situation where weed bunners will get to Amsterdam, only to find they cant be served - but hey, no problem - look, there's a street dealer offering us all sorts, even cocaine if we want it guys YAY - and the problem escalates...

I imagine that within a few short months of this new state of affairs, the cells in Amsterdam will be overcrowded full of street dealers and the govt will be forced to overturn their decision.

The way the govt will come around to seeing it is "Taxed, it works for us, un taxed, we foot the cost" end of rant!

[Boner]

Nol's latest post @ Channels:

Well, the dutch Cabinet, the Ministers Council, will allow coffeeshops to stay open, as usual. The pass system will not be applied in general, only Maastricht will start an experiment, which will surely fail.
Amsterdam's Mayor, Cohen, does not want to ban tourists, he thinks the status of tourism in A'dam is not causing problems.

Our Goofy looking Justice Minister, Ernst Hirsch-Ball-in states that banning tourists from coffeeshops may be activated some day, but he does not know when, the retard...

So, buying, rolling, bonging, vaping and smoking cannabis will continue as usual in Dutch coffeeshops, except maybe for Maastricht.

A lot of time and money wasted on nothing, again.

Cohen is disappointed that the supply matter was not mentioned, he suggested licensed growers for coffeeshops earlier. The A'dam Mayor will take up this issue with the Justice Department, the City Council and the Police Department. Seems the present Dutch government is not able to make a step forward, maybe because our religious leaders are a tit backward?

Keep on coming, even the Cannabis Cup will survive!!

[aradiasraven]

Good news Thanks Boner

[Puffin13]

You know what puffin the guy who owns the hotel where i stay once asked me "how do you get you smoke back home" i went on to say its kinda like a web of friends/family & friend of a friend kinda thing that are "house dealers" & sometimes even on the street,He gasped @ the thought of that & i can be pretty sure hes not alone over there! ie back to the stashes under the bar stools in the mellow yellow type situation.

I also relate stories to dutch people about what I use to have to go through to get my herb, when I lived in the states, and their jaw drops. They find it hard to believe that it took so much effort and cost so much time & money just to score some pot. It is/was such a sad situation; over a nearly harmless plant. Land of the free!? I dont fuckin think so! Pot n Peace.

[Kingdoc]

I can see this bill not being passed thru on 1 ground only!!!

Lets not forget why Weed has enjoyed semi-legal status in the Netherlands... because it was becoming too much of a problem in the first place. By making it a somewhat controlled substance and easy to get hold of in a semi legal way, they had in effect - cut the problem in half.

Now, by making these drugs available only to the citizens of the country is selsective and will cause no end of trouble for the govt. The most obvious one willl be the situation where weed bunners will get to Amsterdam, only to find they cant be served - but hey, no problem - look, there's a street dealer offering us all sorts, even cocaine if we want it guys YAY - and the problem escalates...

I imagine that within a few short months of this new state of affairs, the cells in Amsterdam will be overcrowded full of street dealers and the govt will be forced to overturn their decision.

The way the govt will come around to seeing it is "Taxed, it works for us, un taxed, we foot the cost" end of rant!

Yea this has been in the pipeline for a while now,& the times before where they have tried to push this shit threw has been rules illegal cos of discrimination & so forth so we have that to hold onto,Imagine if americans/english people that came here & we refused to serve them in a bar/tavern the uproar it would cause? looks like to me they are digging themselves a big hole there & people like nol should forget this spain thing right now & fight the home fires i think.

[Kingdoc]

Nol's latest post @ Channels:

Well, the dutch Cabinet, the Ministers Council, will allow coffeeshops to stay open, as usual. The pass system will not be applied in general, only Maastricht will start an experiment, which will surely fail.
Amsterdam's Mayor, Cohen, does not want to ban tourists, he thinks the status of tourism in A'dam is not causing problems.

Our Goofy looking Justice Minister, Ernst Hirsch-Ball-in states that banning tourists from coffeeshops may be activated some day, but he does not know when, the retard...

So, buying, rolling, bonging, vaping and smoking cannabis will continue as usual in Dutch coffeeshops, except maybe for Maastricht.

A lot of time and money wasted on nothing, again.

Cohen is disappointed that the supply matter was not mentioned, he suggested licensed growers for coffeeshops earlier. The A'dam Mayor will take up this issue with the Justice Department, the City Council and the Police Department. Seems the present Dutch government is not able to make a step forward, maybe because our religious leaders are a tit backward?

Keep on coming, even the Cannabis Cup will survive!!

Thanks boner,Its good to know! i kinda thought that myself anyways but these days you cant be to sure ,Ps why hasnt this weasil like guy not been voted out?? it seems like the problem is with him & no1 else,Was he bullied as school or something? lol he would give the cows a run for there money with the methane thats for sure.

[sh@dy]

Great idea - not ! - will just send my other half in to buy for me....and what happens if I marry her, do I get Dutch citizenship ?

How big is the drug tourism problem anyway, is it just being used as an excuse or is it a genuine case of a significant minority spoiling it for those who don't cause a problem and know how to behave ?

to be honest, I havent seen any nuisance IN or AROUND a coffeeshop. that only goes for cities like Venlo,Maastricht and Roermond, that were the only cities I have seen people from other countries being a nuisance and thats only because they dont do anything against the street-dealers who are hanging around the shops area. go to e.g. Sittard and try to find drug tourists who are doing anything wrong there.....you wont find them. this is just bullshit spread from the christian government

[Pauli Wallnuts]

this mayor cohen sounds alright heres hoping his reign continus for a long time, if im not mistaken hes been in the job quite a long time already

[SloWhite]

Nol's latest post @ Channels:

Well, the dutch Cabinet, the Ministers Council, will allow coffeeshops to stay open, as usual. The pass system will not be applied in general, only Maastricht will start an experiment, which will surely fail.
Amsterdam's Mayor, Cohen, does not want to ban tourists, he thinks the status of tourism in A'dam is not causing problems.

Our Goofy looking Justice Minister, Ernst Hirsch-Ball-in states that banning tourists from coffeeshops may be activated some day, but he does not know when, the retard...

So, buying, rolling, bonging, vaping and smoking cannabis will continue as usual in Dutch coffeeshops, except maybe for Maastricht.

A lot of time and money wasted on nothing, again.

Cohen is disappointed that the supply matter was not mentioned, he suggested licensed growers for coffeeshops earlier. The A'dam Mayor will take up this issue with the Justice Department, the City Council and the Police Department. Seems the present Dutch government is not able to make a step forward, maybe because our religious leaders are a tit backward?

Keep on coming, even the Cannabis Cup will survive!!

Great news! thanks for the update Boner!

[spidergawd]

The evergreen issue

In politics this is called "Kicking it into the long GRASS" he he!

[sh@dy]

this mayor cohen sounds alright heres hoping his reign continus for a long time, if im not mistaken hes been in the job quite a long time already

and he was the one who began to raid the dutch grow-rooms.....so you could say he is an asshole.