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highlyblessed wrote:i have seen alot of it in amsterdam too,been sold it in a few shops over the years and lots of people come in to the shops trying to sell it,its fucking terrible! most of it produced in holland for export
Seen it, sold from where and who says it's mostly made here for export??
i have seen it sold in a couple of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments
i know it is produced in holland,my friend in uk (now in jail) was involved in import for many years,from holland,spain and switzerland,the dutch was sprayed for years,long time before all this grit weed hype started when the market for green exploded in the early 00s it started mainly to keep up with increasing demand,i aint saying its dutchgrowing it,but it is grown by criminal gangs in holland
i still have people trying to sell it amsterdam regular(mainly maroccan and turkish yoots) sometimes tey admit its sprays,but cheap, others wont and swear its not sprayed even when you can clearly see that it is
i know these people are goin to diffrent coffeeshops in the city trying to sell it,i also know that some of the old skool hash smoking coffeeshop owners wouldnt know any diffrence and thats how it occasionaly ends up on menus
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I just get it from the grower themselves. Of course mine comes from Humbolt county. hehe
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highlyblessed wrote:
DC wrote:
highlyblessed wrote:i have seen alot of it in amsterdam too,been sold it in a few shops over the years and lots of people come in to the shops trying to sell it,its fucking terrible! most of it produced in holland for export
Seen it, sold from where and who says it's mostly made here for export??
i have seen it sold in a couple of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments
i know it is produced in holland,my friend in uk (now in jail) was involved in import for many years,from holland,spain and switzerland,the dutch was sprayed for years,long time before all this grit weed hype started when the market for green exploded in the early 00s it started mainly to keep up with increasing demand,i aint saying its dutchgrowing it,but it is grown by criminal gangs in holland
i still have people trying to sell it amsterdam regular(mainly maroccan and turkish yoots) sometimes tey admit its sprays,but cheap, others wont and swear its not sprayed even when you can clearly see that it is
i know these people are goin to diffrent coffeeshops in the city trying to sell it,i also know that some of the old skool hash smoking coffeeshop owners wouldnt know any diffrence and thats how it occasionaly ends up on menus
blessssssss
That's so interesting! So how many times in a year or whatever do you get people walking in to your coffeeshop and trying to talk you into buying their stuff?
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mark the martian wrote:
highlyblessed wrote:
DC wrote: Seen it, sold from where and who says it's mostly made here for export??
i have seen it sold in a couple of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments
i know it is produced in holland,my friend in uk (now in jail) was involved in import for many years,from holland,spain and switzerland,the dutch was sprayed for years,long time before all this grit weed hype started when the market for green exploded in the early 00s it started mainly to keep up with increasing demand,i aint saying its dutchgrowing it,but it is grown by criminal gangs in holland
i still have people trying to sell it amsterdam regular(mainly maroccan and turkish yoots) sometimes tey admit its sprays,but cheap, others wont and swear its not sprayed even when you can clearly see that it is
i know these people are goin to diffrent coffeeshops in the city trying to sell it,i also know that some of the old skool hash smoking coffeeshop owners wouldnt know any diffrence and thats how it occasionaly ends up on menus
blessssssss
That's so interesting! So how many times in a year or whatever do you get people walking in to your coffeeshop and trying to talk you into buying their stuff?
i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??
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What arguments would you be referring to....the ones where people are saying "If you knew this place sold it, why didn't you tell me ...so I wouldn't end up smoking that dangerous shit"?. Nice. Did you bother to tell the places you were in that they were selling dodgey gear also....or could ya not be bothered with those arguments either. Don't you think this knowledge you have might have been more useful for people to know, not just now in an 'off the cuff' way, but in the past years when it was actually happening. It's kinda like watching somebody getting mugged and doin nothing to help them....no?. I've known some right dodgey fuckers in me time, but the things I saw and heard has to stay with me and only me, because if I was to pass it on, it could end up tarring me with the same brush. It's hard to be amoungst thieves and come off sounding like a righteous observer.....it always has a tinge of self righteousness. Should I be looking for my paint brush?.
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DC wrote:What arguments would you be referring to....the ones where people are saying "If you knew this place sold it, why didn't you tell me ...so I wouldn't end up smoking that dangerous shit"?. Nice. Did you bother to tell the places you were in that they were selling dodgey gear also....or could ya not be bothered with those arguments either. Don't you think this knowledge you have might have been more useful for people to know, not just now in an 'off the cuff' way, but in the past years when it was actually happening. It's kinda like watching somebody getting mugged and doin nothing to help them....no?. I've known some right dodgey fuckers in me time, but the things I saw and heard has to stay with me and only me, because if I was to pass it on, it could end up tarring me with the same brush. It's hard to be amoungst thieves and come off sounding like a righteous observer.....it always has a tinge of self righteousness. Should I be looking for my paint brush?.
no the arguments were people will be saying they go,no,trust certain shops etc
and i aintabout to badmouth shops over what could have been isolated incidents,as i say i dont think alot of oldskool shopowners wouldnt know diffrence between good/grit and could have been caught out
i did tell the shops but they just think ya mad,sprayed weed??
i first found out bout grit in bout 2005, and after finding out bout it realised that its been happening for years,since then i have had warning signs/info in my shop,told as many people as poss about the dreaded grit and sold as many seeds as possible
i think iv done quite alot to warn the public about the grit
the problem is importers will buy it,dealers wil buy it and smokers will smoke it even after warnings!
if people continue to buy the shit,they will keep prducing it,supply and demand

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highlyblessed wrote:
mark the martian wrote:
highlyblessed wrote: i have seen it sold in a couple of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments
i know it is produced in holland,my friend in uk (now in jail) was involved in import for many years,from holland,spain and switzerland,the dutch was sprayed for years,long time before all this grit weed hype started when the market for green exploded in the early 00s it started mainly to keep up with increasing demand,i aint saying its dutchgrowing it,but it is grown by criminal gangs in holland
i still have people trying to sell it amsterdam regular(mainly maroccan and turkish yoots) sometimes tey admit its sprays,but cheap, others wont and swear its not sprayed even when you can clearly see that it is
i know these people are goin to diffrent coffeeshops in the city trying to sell it,i also know that some of the old skool hash smoking coffeeshop owners wouldnt know any diffrence and thats how it occasionaly ends up on menus
blessssssss
That's so interesting! So how many times in a year or whatever do you get people walking in to your coffeeshop and trying to talk you into buying their stuff?
i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??
blesss
I assumed that each coffeeshop has a close relationship with multiple grow places. That they know how much they use, so they put in orders with grow houses and those places offer some kind of courier/runner service to deliver regularly.

And surely that's what any bigger place is doing, right? It seems to strange to trust the quality and regularity in supply of stock to strangers walking in?
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I know a guy in Northern Ireland who gets a lot of weed imported from the Netherlands, and it is always sprayed with something horrible. This isnt just "a dealer told me so", i know this guy and i know for a fact it is contaminated and coming from the Netherlands. A guy i know in London tells me he gets stuff from the Netherlands and it it sprayed too, but obviously i cannot confirm that is where he gets it from.

Its pretty much accepted here now that most of the dutch weed is contaminated. There is a rule of only buy dutch weed if someone has been over and bought it from a coffee shop, otherwise it isnt worth the risk.

The vietnamese are here now too. I dont know what they are doing to their weed but it tastes foul. Theres no sign of anything sprayed on it, but something isnt right about it.

You can tell it is a lot different from the dutch weed as it just isnt grown to the same standard. The vietnamese really looks homegrown, where the sprayed weed looks like the nice buds you get in coffee shops, only its been sprayed with crap.
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This is why black hashish disapeared from the UK map in the 90's, it was getting near impossible to get clean black, they used to either cut it in Spain before it reached uk with all sorts (oil, tar, or worse) and if it actually arrived clean by some miracle then the local dealer would do the old Vaseline trick in the microwave and add 100g in 30 secs flat. The result eventually was everyone stopped buying it. Dont think the war in Afghanistan with the russian invasion helped matters either, that was where the good stuff was still coming from.
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stop buying from fucked uped dealers.....if he fucks you once ok......if he fucks you twice.....you know the rest ;)
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It's sad to hear that this is going on in the UK. Taking an amazing natural plant and potentially adding toxicities to it! Disgusting!
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sh@dy wrote:stop buying from fucked uped dealers.....if he fucks you once ok......if he fucks you twice.....you know the rest ;)
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highlyblessed wrote: no the arguments were people will be saying they go,no,trust certain shops etc
Y'know, if I even knew what the hell this meant, I think I'd still have disagree with yer reasoning. This shit should be made known to people anytime it's seen first hand. It's ok to drink and drive then run somebody over, if ...it's only an isolated incident?....and just because they're 'oldskool' it doesn't give them an idiots get out jail free card. I fail to see how ya can justify that as a good reason for not naming the places you've seen it in. Anywhere that's 'well known' ..should.. have a smart enough buyer to stop it from happening. If they don't it's their own fault but if yer charging for a health risk, ya also..should ...be held accountable when discovered....everytime, no matter what. If anybody would have tried selling us this crap, they'd have been gently escorted off the premises...by the throat. Atleast making them 'think' before tryin it anywhere else, like it was ok. From what you're sayin, you have them round at yours all the time. I know of other shops that have been offered it, but nowhere near as often as you have....

"yeah they do that with pepsi in the uk!,then call the bud pepsi the cheeky cunts,there is all kinds they do it with now they do it with alot more iv seen sugar water,brix,glass,embarment fluid,flour all kinds of shit, mix it with water in a whirlpooly thing so it opens the bud and get the contaminant to the middle then drey the bud and presto! there many test you can do but they seem be doin diffrent new thing all the time,i have seen alot of it in amsterdam too,been sold it in a few shops over the years and lots of people come in to the shops trying to sell it,its fucking terrible! most of it produced in holland for export"

...That's a lot of detail for somebody that's merely 'seen', been offered it at a counter. Anything else would require dialogue and imo, that's just one word too many with arseholes that make this shit. Maybe that's it though...maybe you've just said too much. :roll:
ynwa wrote:I know a guy in Northern Ireland who gets a lot of weed imported from the Netherlands, and it is always sprayed with something horrible. This isnt just "a dealer told me so", i know this guy and i know for a fact it is contaminated and coming from the Netherlands. A guy i know in London tells me he gets stuff from the Netherlands and it it sprayed too, but obviously i cannot confirm that is where he gets it from.

Its pretty much accepted here now that most of the dutch weed is contaminated. There is a rule of only buy dutch weed if someone has been over and bought it from a coffee shop, otherwise it isnt worth the risk.
This one time, in band camp! "I know a guy"....FFS Mate, in yer attempt to make a point you've missed another bigger one. IT'S NOT OK TO KNOW SOMEBODY THAT SELLS THIS SHIT AND DO FUK ALL!...even if it does come from Holland. Is it just me, or do some people on the forum really not get the jist behind the word 'accomplice'.. :roll:

'an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense.' ...the crime here is against stoners and their health.

Get on the confidential telephone and get him bitch slapped out of the market, 'always' tells us this one isn't an isolated incident so I'm lookin forward to hearing you're excuse!.
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