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Highlyblessed if someone was putting poison into your favorite beer, i would let you know. This is the same thing


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highlyblessed wrote: no the arguments were people will be saying they go,no,trust certain shops etc
Y'know, if I even knew what the hell this meant, I think I'd still have disagree with yer reasoning. This shit should be made known to people anytime it's seen first hand. It's ok to drink and drive then run somebody over, if ...it's only an isolated incident?....and just because they're 'oldskool' it doesn't give them an idiots get out jail free card. I fail to see how ya can justify that as a good reason for not naming the places you've seen it in. Anywhere that's 'well known' ..should.. have a smart enough buyer to stop it from happening. If they don't it's their own fault but if yer charging for a health risk, ya also..should ...be held accountable when discovered....everytime, no matter what. If anybody would have tried selling us this crap, they'd have been gently escorted off the premises...by the throat. Atleast making them 'think' before tryin it anywhere else, like it was ok. From what you're sayin, you have them round at yours all the time. I know of other shops that have been offered it, but nowhere near as often as you have....

"yeah they do that with pepsi in the uk!,then call the bud pepsi the cheeky cunts,there is all kinds they do it with now they do it with alot more iv seen sugar water,brix,glass,embarment fluid,flour all kinds of shit, mix it with water in a whirlpooly thing so it opens the bud and get the contaminant to the middle then drey the bud and presto! there many test you can do but they seem be doin diffrent new thing all the time,i have seen alot of it in amsterdam too,been sold it in a few shops over the years and lots of people come in to the shops trying to sell it,its fucking terrible! most of it produced in holland for export"

...That's a lot of detail for somebody that's merely 'seen', been offered it at a counter. Anything else would require dialogue and imo, that's just one word too many with arseholes that make this shit. Maybe that's it though...maybe you've just said too much. :roll:
ynwa wrote:I know a guy in Northern Ireland who gets a lot of weed imported from the Netherlands, and it is always sprayed with something horrible. This isnt just "a dealer told me so", i know this guy and i know for a fact it is contaminated and coming from the Netherlands. A guy i know in London tells me he gets stuff from the Netherlands and it it sprayed too, but obviously i cannot confirm that is where he gets it from.

Its pretty much accepted here now that most of the dutch weed is contaminated. There is a rule of only buy dutch weed if someone has been over and bought it from a coffee shop, otherwise it isnt worth the risk.
This one time, in band camp! "I know a guy"....FFS Mate, in yer attempt to make a point you've missed another bigger one. IT'S NOT OK TO KNOW SOMEBODY THAT SELLS THIS SHIT AND DO FUK ALL!...even if it does come from Holland. Is it just me, or do some people on the forum really not get the jist behind the word 'accomplice'.. :roll:

'an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense.' ...the crime here is against stoners and their health.

Get on the confidential telephone and get him bitch slapped out of the market, 'always' tells us this one isn't an isolated incident so I'm lookin forward to hearing you're excuse!.
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highlyblessed wrote: no the arguments were people will be saying they go,no,trust certain shops etc
Y'know, if I even knew what the hell this meant, I think I'd still have disagree with yer reasoning. This shit should be made known to people anytime it's seen first hand. It's ok to drink and drive then run somebody over, if ...it's only an isolated incident?....and just because they're 'oldskool' it doesn't give them an idiots get out jail free card. I fail to see how ya can justify that as a good reason for not naming the places you've seen it in. Anywhere that's 'well known' ..should.. have a smart enough buyer to stop it from happening. If they don't it's their own fault but if yer charging for a health risk, ya also..should ...be held accountable when discovered....everytime, no matter what. If anybody would have tried selling us this crap, they'd have been gently escorted off the premises...by the throat. Atleast making them 'think' before tryin it anywhere else, like it was ok. From what you're sayin, you have them round at yours all the time. I know of other shops that have been offered it, but nowhere near as often as you have....

"yeah they do that with pepsi in the uk!,then call the bud pepsi the cheeky cunts,there is all kinds they do it with now they do it with alot more iv seen sugar water,brix,glass,embarment fluid,flour all kinds of shit, mix it with water in a whirlpooly thing so it opens the bud and get the contaminant to the middle then drey the bud and presto! there many test you can do but they seem be doin diffrent new thing all the time,i have seen alot of it in amsterdam too,been sold it in a few shops over the years and lots of people come in to the shops trying to sell it,its fucking terrible! most of it produced in holland for export"

...That's a lot of detail for somebody that's merely 'seen', been offered it at a counter. Anything else would require dialogue and imo, that's just one word too many with arseholes that make this shit. Maybe that's it though...maybe you've just said too much. :roll:
ynwa wrote:I know a guy in Northern Ireland who gets a lot of weed imported from the Netherlands, and it is always sprayed with something horrible. This isnt just "a dealer told me so", i know this guy and i know for a fact it is contaminated and coming from the Netherlands. A guy i know in London tells me he gets stuff from the Netherlands and it it sprayed too, but obviously i cannot confirm that is where he gets it from.

Its pretty much accepted here now that most of the dutch weed is contaminated. There is a rule of only buy dutch weed if someone has been over and bought it from a coffee shop, otherwise it isnt worth the risk.
This one time, in band camp! "I know a guy"....FFS Mate, in yer attempt to make a point you've missed another bigger one. IT'S NOT OK TO KNOW SOMEBODY THAT SELLS THIS SHIT AND DO FUK ALL!...even if it does come from Holland. Is it just me, or do some people on the forum really not get the jist behind the word 'accomplice'.. :roll:

'an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense.' ...the crime here is against stoners and their health.

Get on the confidential telephone and get him bitch slapped out of the market, 'always' tells us this one isn't an isolated incident so I'm lookin forward to hearing you're excuse!.
so how do you suppose we get rid of all these grt dealers in the uk then? one fone call to get them slapped outta the market,by who? the only reason this shit is produced,importd,sold and smoked is because of demand,its the same with soapbar,i own a headshop in the uk for years we been telling people bout grit .90 percent of people tell me,it gets me high and all i can get
if they keep buying the shit people will keep producing the sad truth is that most british smokers dont give a shit!
are you implying that i know too much about the grit weed process??
as a responsible headshop owner i made it my business too find out as much as i could about the grit/process to help warn my cusomers(the ones who care) i have NEVER been involved in the grit trade,just because i know how someting is done,dont mean i do it,or help do it,or have any involvement in it,i just bothered to find out

i will tell you the route 66/99 has had grit over the summer a freind was over and brought some was glass sprayed i told the guy in the shop but he just insisted it was good weed,left it on the counter and left

i aint gonna mention other shops because was all over 12months ago,i aint heard or seen anything bad since

you say you know shops that have been offered it but not as much as yours? that is prob because i am not a coffeeshop,but i have seen it offered to many diffrent shops in the city
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In Northern Ireland they're called the PSNI, in the UK I believe they're referred to as PC Plod, the Old Bill or maybe the Facist cunts in blue!?. It would work better in Northern Ireland, but if you want to include my reply to somebdy elses post in yours...then yeah, I'm sure it'd have an effect in the UK too. Don't want them boys poking their noses in yer own business or would it just make you a 'Grass'?. :roll: Both are bullshit reasons for letting people get away with selling poison. At the very least, they should know better than to come to you in the first place as a reputation for throwing wankers out on their ear is easy to obtain. As for your involvement in it. As I said I think you just say too much, first of all it's all over the place, then it's in a couple of places, then ya name 1. Yer talking about 'shops' in Amsterdam and your 'shop' and think it's clear yer talkin about a headshop in the UK (by the way this makes yer reputation even easier to get) You come off sounding as if you live here and work in a coffeeshop. Which doesn't seem to be the case? or is it...reading back I still can't make it out......and so, a dealer didn't say so, the internet did?. Because without dialogue with the scum that make this shit, that has to be yer main source of information, remembering the internet sometimes gets printed on paper aswell. :roll: I'd like to think you've just fell victim to the righteous 'distant internet' observer clause. Otherwise yer excuses are suggesting yer a bit of a tosser. "If it's gonna happen it'll happen, what else can I do about it?" :? ...I dunno, there's a list, pick one. Or say less?. :idea:
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This one time, in band camp! "I know a guy"....FFS Mate, in yer attempt to make a point you've missed another bigger one. IT'S NOT OK TO KNOW SOMEBODY THAT SELLS THIS SHIT AND DO FUK ALL!...even if it does come from Holland. Is it just me, or do some people on the forum really not get the jist behind the word 'accomplice'.. :roll:

'an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense.' ...the crime here is against stoners and their health.

Get on the confidential telephone and get him bitch slapped out of the market, 'always' tells us this one isn't an isolated incident so I'm lookin forward to hearing you're excuse!.
So i also know people who sell cocaine. Which is cetaintly mixed with something too. Should i grass them up too? The PSNI treat unsprayed sellers the same as sprayed sellers. I am an accomplice to those too.

i would say 75% of the weed here is contaminated. One gets taken out theres plenty more there, theres someone else with his contacts in NL to take his place. i cant stop it. It has to be stopped at the source, by the ones who are "spraying" it.

I wont be grassing anyone up, mainly for 2 reasons.

1. The people who buy the weed know it is sprayed. They just dont care. They are happy to smoke it because it is good weed, better than what the homegrown weed is. I have tried to educate people, they wont listen. If this guy is taken out, they buy the same shit from someone else.

2. In NI, grasses get a bullet in the back of the head. So i think ill give it a miss thanks.
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ynwa wrote:
So i also know people who sell cocaine. Which is cetaintly mixed with something too. Should i grass them up too? The PSNI treat unsprayed sellers the same as sprayed sellers. I am an accomplice to those too.

i would say 75% of the weed here is contaminated. One gets taken out theres plenty more there, theres someone else with his contacts in NL to take his place. i cant stop it. It has to be stopped at the source, by the ones who are "spraying" it.

I wont be grassing anyone up, mainly for 2 reasons.

1. The people who buy the weed know it is sprayed. They just dont care. They are happy to smoke it because it is good weed, better than what the homegrown weed is. I have tried to educate people, they wont listen. If this guy is taken out, they buy the same shit from someone else.

2. In NI, grasses get a bullet in the back of the head. So i think ill give it a miss thanks.
Wrong man, im my town at least i have seen it happen when the majority refuse to buy it, its stop being pushed. Demand is key, you're part of that demand. Vote with your 20 quid note man, there is good bud in NI, ive smoked it, its about making connections.

In NI drug dealers get a bullet through the head, joyriders get a bullet through the head, anyone who the ' boys' disagree with does. If you dont want to grass, refuse to buy and spread the word.
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ynwa wrote:
DC wrote:
This one time, in band camp! "I know a guy"....FFS Mate, in yer attempt to make a point you've missed another bigger one. IT'S NOT OK TO KNOW SOMEBODY THAT SELLS THIS SHIT AND DO FUK ALL!...even if it does come from Holland. Is it just me, or do some people on the forum really not get the jist behind the word 'accomplice'.. :roll:

'an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense.' ...the crime here is against stoners and their health.
Get on the confidential telephone and get him bitch slapped out of the market, 'always' tells us this one isn't an isolated incident so I'm lookin forward to hearing you're excuse!.
So i also know people who sell cocaine. Which is cetaintly mixed with something too. Should i grass them up too? The PSNI treat unsprayed sellers the same as sprayed sellers. I am an accomplice to those too.

i would say 75% of the weed here is contaminated. One gets taken out theres plenty more there, theres someone else with his contacts in NL to take his place. i cant stop it. It has to be stopped at the source, by the ones who are "spraying" it.

I wont be grassing anyone up, mainly for 2 reasons.

1. The people who buy the weed know it is sprayed. They just dont care. They are happy to smoke it because it is good weed, better than what the homegrown weed is. I have tried to educate people, they wont listen. If this guy is taken out, they buy the same shit from someone else.

2. In NI, grasses get a bullet in the back of the head. So i think ill give it a miss thanks.
Only if the person grassed up is in the Ra, UDA etc. People already know coke is mixed...but if it started to get mixed with glass...then yep, grass them up too. Stupid comparison, by the way. There's 1 reason ya wont be grassing them up, ya know them.....Ra, UDA?. In which case, enjoy being part of the problem. :roll:

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I know for a fact there's half decent unsprayed weed getting into Dublin from Holland, so maybe if 'the boys' you know weren't such robbin bastids, they'd try a bit harder and do less damage. But then, they might aswell grow it themselves in that case!. :idea: :roll:
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sh@dy wrote:stop buying from fucked uped dealers.....if he fucks you once ok......if he fucks you twice.....you know the rest ;)
the wisest thing ever to come outta W's mouth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A&NR=1

(but he even f**ks this up :lol: )
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DC wrote:In Northern Ireland they're called the PSNI, in the UK I believe they're referred to as PC Plod, the Old Bill or maybe the Facist cunts in blue!?. It would work better in Northern Ireland, but if you want to include my reply to somebdy elses post in yours...then yeah, I'm sure it'd have an effect in the UK too. Don't want them boys poking their noses in yer own business or would it just make you a 'Grass'?. :roll: Both are bullshit reasons for letting people get away with selling poison. At the very least, they should know better than to come to you in the first place as a reputation for throwing wankers out on their ear is easy to obtain. As for your involvement in it. As I said I think you just say too much, first of all it's all over the place, then it's in a couple of places, then ya name 1. Yer talking about 'shops' in Amsterdam and your 'shop' and think it's clear yer talkin about a headshop in the UK (by the way this makes yer reputation even easier to get) You come off sounding as if you live here and work in a coffeeshop. Which doesn't seem to be the case? or is it...reading back I still can't make it out......and so, a dealer didn't say so, the internet did?. Because without dialogue with the scum that make this shit, that has to be yer main source of information, remembering the internet sometimes gets printed on paper aswell. :roll: I'd like to think you've just fell victim to the righteous 'distant internet' observer clause. Otherwise yer excuses are suggesting yer a bit of a tosser. "If it's gonna happen it'll happen, what else can I do about it?" :? ...I dunno, there's a list, pick one. Or say less?. :idea:
ok let me explain you seem a little confused
i own a headshop in uk

i never said that it was all over the place i said I HAVE SEEN IN IN A FEW SHOPS OVER THE YEARS

when i first started to find out about this shit my info is from a mixture of internet and speaking to customers in my shop(uk) I HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN THE GRIT TRADE,just because i read up and ask questions dont make me an accesorrie in any way
it is supply and demand if you grass the dealers up a new one will be in place in hours thats how the business works if people are prepared to buy it sum dick will always sell it
so i should say less? why,tell no one about grit? bit of a contridiction to what ya preaching init? or is it ok to know something bad happens but only if you dont tell anybody??
i would preffer everbody to know about the grit why would i want to say less?? so you dont think im involved???
i will say it again the only reason people are selling this shit is because they can,if people buying it they will sell it
the only way to stop it is not to buy it,and to spread the infomation to as many people to try to stop them buying it but then `im involved`

ok next
i now live in amsterdam i have friends who are coffeeshop owners/buyers people are constantly trying to sell them goods
occasionally this is contaminated

nuff said
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
Wrong man, im my town at least i have seen it happen when the majority refuse to buy it, its stop being pushed. Demand is key, you're part of that demand. Vote with your 20 quid note man, there is good bud in NI, ive smoked it, its about making connections.

In NI drug dealers get a bullet through the head, joyriders get a bullet through the head, anyone who the ' boys' disagree with does. If you dont want to grass, refuse to buy and spread the word.
Oh i dont buy it. I would rather do without. Luckily i have my own sources. But other people wont do without. They will take grit weed if theres nothing else about, and some people would rather have it than home grown. If usually top class weed, but has been runined by spraying. But people are still happy enough to buy it. Ive done my bit. I have tried to educate everyone about grit weed and how to spot it. I cant force them not to buy it.
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ynwa wrote:
Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
Wrong man, im my town at least i have seen it happen when the majority refuse to buy it, its stop being pushed. Demand is key, you're part of that demand. Vote with your 20 quid note man, there is good bud in NI, ive smoked it, its about making connections.

In NI drug dealers get a bullet through the head, joyriders get a bullet through the head, anyone who the ' boys' disagree with does. If you dont want to grass, refuse to buy and spread the word.
Oh i dont buy it. I would rather do without. Luckily i have my own sources. But other people wont do without. They will take grit weed if theres nothing else about, and some people would rather have it than home grown. If usually top class weed, but has been runined by spraying. But people are still happy enough to buy it. Ive done my bit. I have tried to educate everyone about grit weed and how to spot it. I cant force them not to buy it.
Indeed, but you can force it out of the market place. If its mainstream the contamination, then the majority of people are smoking it, not just the odd spides. The majority of people are not idiots, all it takes is a little publication. The LCA done a pretty good job here doing that, contact the N.I branch to see what they can do.

i would preffer everbody to know about the grit why would i want to say less?
Well no, you've said its pretty prevalent out there, but only given one shop? Its hardly the mass amount of ' preaching ' which signifies someone who is actually concerned about people ingesting the poision imo?
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
ynwa wrote:
Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
Wrong man, im my town at least i have seen it happen when the majority refuse to buy it, its stop being pushed. Demand is key, you're part of that demand. Vote with your 20 quid note man, there is good bud in NI, ive smoked it, its about making connections.

In NI drug dealers get a bullet through the head, joyriders get a bullet through the head, anyone who the ' boys' disagree with does. If you dont want to grass, refuse to buy and spread the word.
Oh i dont buy it. I would rather do without. Luckily i have my own sources. But other people wont do without. They will take grit weed if theres nothing else about, and some people would rather have it than home grown. If usually top class weed, but has been runined by spraying. But people are still happy enough to buy it. Ive done my bit. I have tried to educate everyone about grit weed and how to spot it. I cant force them not to buy it.
Indeed, but you can force it out of the market place. If its mainstream the contamination, then the majority of people are smoking it, not just the odd spides. The majority of people are not idiots, all it takes is a little publication. The LCA done a pretty good job here doing that, contact the N.I branch to see what they can do.

i would preffer everbody to know about the grit why would i want to say less?
Well no, you've said its pretty prevalent out there, but only given one shop? Its hardly the mass amount of ' preaching ' which signifies someone who is actually concerned about people ingesting the poision imo?

i said i have seen it in A FEW shops over the YEARS!!!!!
I never said it was prevalent at all.
what im saying is for a few years nobody knew about grit,when we did find out bout it and the methods then we figurerd out that it has been goin on for years the one shop i seen in recently i have told you

i worked with the lca through my shop in uk also wit weedworld and soft secrets to spread the message of grit and belive me there are lots of idiots who just dont care can only be forced out the market to a point
its just the same as soapbar everybody knows it contains plastic/oil etc but people still buy and smoke it,id say bout 40 percent of my customers in england will refuse grit,te rest will smoke what they can get bo matter what i tell them,sad but true
i ave done more than most to try to warn people about grit i think
then get accused of bein involved or not really concerned because i wont name and possibly ruin reputation of shops that have had it several years ago(before grit was even known about)
this it gettin boring now
all i will say is BEWARE OF THE GRIT
there is new contaminates happening all the time keep checking the net and with other stoners new ways to test for grit
the old grit tests dont work on the new contams
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Soap Bar is a great example. Everyone knows whats in it. Its still pretty popular. Some people even prefer it to weed. Theres no talking to some people.
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ynwa wrote:Soap Bar is a great example. Everyone knows whats in it. Its still pretty popular. Some people even prefer it to weed. Theres no talking to some people.
problem is alot of old skool smokers dont like the buzz & intensity of indoor hybrids, but they cant get outdoor weed so soap is their only alternative, on the other hand some people are just tight arses & will smoke anything cheap
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Pauli Wallnuts wrote:
problem is alot of old skool smokers dont like the buzz & intensity of indoor hybrids, but they cant get outdoor weed so soap is their only alternative, on the other hand some people are just tight arses & will smoke anything cheap
Yeah i would say its a combination of both. But are people selling soap bar really any better than those selling grit weed?
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