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Post by ZBeebs »

Wait...highlyblessed is in the uk?? There are multiple threads where you make it seem as if you work at bagheera... What's up with that?


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Post by Boner »

He's from the UK but now lives & works in Amsterdam, I think he said his Mrs works at Bagheera which is why he's there a lot.
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errrrr the horrid girt. aint seen it for a while down my way.
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highlyblessed wrote: i said i have seen it in A FEW shops over the YEARS!!!!!
I never said it was prevalent at all.
i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??
Really?

Look man, im not having a go but so far your excuses have gone from not naming the shops because
of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments blesss
i aintabout to badmouth shops over what could have been isolated incidents,
as i say i dont think alot of oldskool shopowners wouldnt know diffrence between good/grit and could have been caught out

Now, either it is isolated or it isnt, you've suggest both
i aintabout to badmouth shops over what could have been isolated incidents,
i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??
so its a bit hards to gauge what the situation is according to you. I've never accused you of being involved, but its imo strange that you claim to have so much knowledge of it, but give conflicting accounts of the situation.

To me, if you post with knowledge of something, you are obliged to divulge said information, its akin to me saying i scored this really nice herb, but im not going to tell you what it is or where to get it.

Surely its time to, give a full and honest picture of what is actually happening, or ambit that you dont really know?
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
highlyblessed wrote: i said i have seen it in A FEW shops over the YEARS!!!!!
I never said it was prevalent at all.
i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??
Really?

Look man, im not having a go but so far your excuses have gone from not naming the shops because
of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments blesss
i aintabout to badmouth shops over what could have been isolated incidents,
as i say i dont think alot of oldskool shopowners wouldnt know diffrence between good/grit and could have been caught out

Now, either it is isolated or it isnt, you've suggest both
i aintabout to badmouth shops over what could have been isolated incidents,
i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??
so its a bit hards to gauge what the situation is according to you. I've never accused you of being involved, but its imo strange that you claim to have so much knowledge of it, but give conflicting accounts of the situation.

To me, if you post with knowledge of something, you are obliged to divulge said information, its akin to me saying i scored this really nice herb, but im not going to tell you what it is or where to get it.

Surely its time to, give a full and honest picture of what is actually happening, or ambit that you dont really know?
bit of missquoting goin on there fella
i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??
that was a question from martin the martian asking how oftern people cum into coffeeshops offering weed i said i see it almost daily,NO MENTION OF GRIT
1 shop i have seen grit in has had change of owner (poss twice since i seen it) what benefit whould it be to bad mouth a shop and poss damage a reputation because of an incident years ago with diffrent managment?? when it dosent reflect my view of the shop now?? you understand??
were are the conflicting accounts? i said i have seen it in shops over the years not in any one shop regular
the only contradiction is in your miss quoeting me
if i knew of a shop selling grit now i would tell you but i dont
like i said from begining
I HAVE SEEN IN IN FEW SHOPS OVER THE YEARS!!! that dont make it prevalent and i never said otherwise only in miss quotation
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Post by Sir Niall of Essex-sire »

Not at all a mis-quote.

Your original quote
have seen it sold in a couple of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments i know it is produced in holland,my friend in uk (now in jail) was involved in import for many years,from holland,spain and switzerland,the dutch was sprayed for years,long time before all this grit weed hype started when the market for green exploded in the early 00s it started mainly to keep up with increasing demand,i aint saying its dutchgrowing it,but it is grown by criminal gangs in holland i still have people trying to sell it amsterdam regular(mainly maroccan and turkish yoots) sometimes tey admit its sprays,but cheap, others wont and swear its not sprayed even when you can clearly see that it is i know these people are goin to diffrent coffeeshops in the city trying to sell it,i also know that some of the old skool hash smoking coffeeshop owners wouldnt know any diffrence and thats how it occasionaly ends up on menus
To which Mark the Martian asks
That's so interesting! So how many times in a year or whatever do you get people walking in to your coffeeshop and trying to talk you into buying their stuff
To which you answer
see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from?? blesss
Can that not be viewed as a refernce to grit, granted its not mentioned explicitly, but you cant call it a mis-quote at all as its in a topic of sprayed bud which you assert huge knowledge on. Although it is vague as the characteristic of your posts suggest. Apolgies if you think it is a mis-quote, however implied meaning, which your posts have imo, are easy to interpreted in many ways.

Your post DOES have contradiction, as shown you give a number of reasons for not naming shops which change from time to time. So although my quoting you view as a mis-quote ( which the vague nature of your posts contributed to alot imo ) the contradiction i am refering to occurs in your reasons for not diviluging the information.

How would it help? Because it would make people more wary for purchases from those shops.

As i said, im not picking, im simply trying to gauge some sort of clarity from your posts on an important issue which i believe has been found.
if i knew of a shop selling grit now i would tell you but i dont
i usually understand
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:Not at all a mis-quote.

Your original quote
have seen it sold in a couple of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments i know it is produced in holland,my friend in uk (now in jail) was involved in import for many years,from holland,spain and switzerland,the dutch was sprayed for years,long time before all this grit weed hype started when the market for green exploded in the early 00s it started mainly to keep up with increasing demand,i aint saying its dutchgrowing it,but it is grown by criminal gangs in holland i still have people trying to sell it amsterdam regular(mainly maroccan and turkish yoots) sometimes tey admit its sprays,but cheap, others wont and swear its not sprayed even when you can clearly see that it is i know these people are goin to diffrent coffeeshops in the city trying to sell it,i also know that some of the old skool hash smoking coffeeshop owners wouldnt know any diffrence and thats how it occasionaly ends up on menus
To which Mark the Martian asks
That's so interesting! So how many times in a year or whatever do you get people walking in to your coffeeshop and trying to talk you into buying their stuff
To which you answer
see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from?? blesss
Can that not be viewed as a refernce to grit, granted its not mentioned explicitly, but you cant call it a mis-quote at all as its in a topic of sprayed bud which you assert huge knowledge on. Although it is vague as the characteristic of your posts suggest. Apolgies if you think it is a mis-quote, however implied meaning, which your posts have imo, are easy to interpreted in many ways.

Your post DOES have contradiction, as shown you give a number of reasons for not naming shops which change from time to time. So although my quoting you view as a mis-quote ( which the vague nature of your posts contributed to alot imo ) the contradiction i am refering to occurs in your reasons for not diviluging the information.

How would it help? Because it would make people more wary for purchases from those shops.

As i said, im not picking, im simply trying to gauge some sort of clarity from your posts on an important issue which i believe has been found.
if i knew of a shop selling grit now i would tell you but i dont
i usually understand
no it a miss quote
That's so interesting! So how many times in a year or whatever do you get people walking in to your coffeeshop and trying to talk you into buying their stuff
i was asked howoftern i see people come into coffeshops trying to sell weed

i said
see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from?? blesss
NO MENTION OF GRIT
you just qoueted me as tho it ment grit ,so that is a miss quote
there is no contradictin
my reasons remains the same
I DONT KNOW ANY SHOPS SELLING GRIT NOW!!
the last place i saw it was route 66 in the summers wich i told you
the other places were ovr the last 10 years
you hhave no reason to be weary of buying from these place cause i know at least one has new owner and i never seen or heard problems since
if i thought there was a danger of these shops sell you grit i would tell you,but i dont,like i say it was in the past,so i dont see any point in bad mouthing a shops reputation cause of incidents in the past with diffrent owners
all the same reason just worded diffrent cause people dont seem to get it

its gettin boaring now,im dun with this topic
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Post by Sir Niall of Essex-sire »

All im saying is man if you post a long rant about grit weed and how you've seen it about then a question is asked regarding how often people enter your shop with weed. It is not a huge mis-interpretation to assume that the resulting continuation of answers is regarding the original topic of discussion, the context of the answer you assert is a mis-quotation, allows for such a mis-interpretation to happen. As does the general vague-ness of posts.
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so i should say less? why,tell no one about grit? bit of a contridiction to what ya preaching init? or is it ok to know something bad happens but only if you dont tell anybody??
i would preffer everbody to know about the grit why would i want to say less?? so you dont think im involved???
Say less means don't over cook your experiences with the subject matter. You mix 1st, 2nd and even 3rd hand experiences together and spout them out as if you've personally seen it all. If you had, then yeah, I'm saying you're involved, but for all the detail you give, you're very vague as to where it came from until challenged...then it's backtrack and excuse time..
yeah they do that with pepsi in the uk!,then call the bud pepsi the cheeky cunts,there is all kinds they do it with now they do it with alot more iv seen sugar water,brix,glass,embarment fluid,flour all kinds of shit, mix it with water in a whirlpooly thing so it opens the bud and get the contaminant to the middle then drey the bud and presto! there many test you can do but they seem be doin diffrent new thing all the time,i have seen alot of it in amsterdam too,been sold it in a few shops over the years and lots of people come in to the shops trying to sell it,its fucking terrible! most of it produced in holland for export

i have seen it sold in a couple of well known amsterdam shops over the years,i aint gonna name them because it will cause arguments
i know it is produced in holland,my friend in uk (now in jail) was involved in import for many years

i still have people trying to sell it amsterdam regular(mainly maroccan and turkish yoots) sometimes tey admit its sprays,but cheap, others wont and swear its not sprayed even when you can clearly see that it is
i know these people are goin to diffrent coffeeshops in the city trying to sell it,i also know that some of the old skool hash smoking coffeeshop owners wouldnt know any diffrence and thats how it occasionaly ends up on menus

Mark the martian "That's so interesting! So how many times in a year or whatever do you get people walking in to your coffeeshop and trying to talk you into buying their stuff?

i see it almost daily,at least few times a week,were u think all the weed comes from??

i aintabout to badmouth shops over what could have been isolated incidents

you say you know shops that have been offered it but not as much as yours? that is prob because i am not a coffeeshop,but i have seen it offered to many diffrent shops in the city

when i first started to find out about this shit my info is from a mixture of internet and speaking to customers in my shop

i never said that it was all over the place i said I HAVE SEEN IN IN A FEW SHOPS OVER THE YEARS

i now live in amsterdam i have friends who are coffeeshop owners/buyers people are constantly trying to sell them goods
occasionally this is contaminated

the one shop i seen in recently

were are the conflicting accounts? i said i have seen it in (LOTS, A FEW, A COUPLE, 1)shops over the years not in any one shop regular
If I'm confused it's because you're as clear as a foggy day mate and that, I feel, is because you say...too much?.
yeah I've heard they do that with pepsi in the uk!,then call the bud pepsi the cheeky cunts,there is all kinds they do it with now I've heard and read they do it with alot more iv seen mostly online sugar water,brix,glass,embarment fluid,flour all kinds of shit, somebody told me they mix it with water in a whirlpooly thing so it opens the bud and get the contaminant to the middle then drey the bud and presto! there many test you can do but they seem be doin diffrent new thing all the time, i have seen some of it in amsterdam too,been sold it in a few shops over the years but not recently, cept Route 66 during the summer and I've been told lots of people come in to the shops trying to sell it, its fucking terrible! I think most of it produced in holland for export though, if this is true, why there's so much trying to be sold in Amsterdam I dunno, maybe they're like the UK and don't give a shit either...or maybe they're too oldskool, or maybe I just say too much
Come to think of it, maybe you don't say enough!. :idea:

Ynwa, as for soapbar, what do you think. As long as it doesn't kill anybody and idiots are prepared to buy it...it's ok?. :roll:
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Post by Uncle Ron »

Hey all,
I read every post in this thread, and basically most of the replies state the same thing, if you know the gear is bad, don't buy it.

My take on this problem is the following:
1. If you know the gear is bad, don't buy it, period. If you do, suffer the consequences, preferably in silence.
2. Clandestinely put out the word that so and so is selling bad gear. The reason for being clandestine is so that the dealers won't target you for bad mouthing their product and hurting their bottom line.
3. I have grown/grow my own and had friends remark how the gear was the same as what they had scored in Adam. One can never be absolutely sure where the gear bought from a local dealer came from. Personally, I could care less where the gear came from, my only concerns are the quality and the price. Shouldn't that be all of our concern and not from whence it came?
4. To the highlyblessed, you should reread the entire thread and reevaluate what you are trying to convey. I agree with Sir Niall of Essex-sire that you are all over the place with your responses. Where you lost me, and by lost I mean my attention, is in stating that you won't mention shop names. Why then bother to mention shops at all? Forget about flaming and bashing, if a shop sells contaminated gear, everyone should know about it. It will then be the responsibility of the shop to fix the problem with the suppliers.

To all who love the weed, if you know the gear is bad, do something besides nothing. As for those who are unfortunate in having to deal with this type of situation, find other sources or grow your own. Go without for a while until a better source is found (sucks just thinking about it).

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