Joint quantity

[ZBeebs]

So when an American says something about smoking pure, we are given shit about missing the point and only wanted to get "mashed up as fast as possible", but when one of your own says they only smoke pure, you guys are in awe and pat him on the back.

Real nice guys.

Still doesn't change the fact that tobacco adds nothing positive to weed, and you can just smoke less if smoking a whole joint pure is too much for you. I think some of you guys are in denial and are addicted to the tobacco and saying "it makes the weed burn better" is the only thing you can come up with.

How about a) they like it and b) its a cultural tradition here.

Nothing more annoying that preachy Americans.

So you ignore the main statement I make and focus on the last sentence. If that's the case (they just like it that way/cultural) they should say that, and not make assumptions that "Americans just want to get fucked up".

Your "preachy Americans" signature is offensive, and speaks volumes about you. I find it would be very difficult to have a conversation with someone who seems to have a chip on their shoulder right off the bat.

[Marco]

So when an American says something about smoking pure, we are given shit about missing the point and only wanted to get "mashed up as fast as possible", but when one of your own says they only smoke pure, you guys are in awe and pat him on the back.

Real nice guys.

Still doesn't change the fact that tobacco adds nothing positive to weed, and you can just smoke less if smoking a whole joint pure is too much for you. I think some of you guys are in denial and are addicted to the tobacco and saying "it makes the weed burn better" is the only thing you can come up with.

How about a) they like it and b) its a cultural tradition here.

Nothing more annoying that preachy Americans.

So you ignore the main statement I make and focus on the last sentence. If that's the case (they just like it that way/cultural) they should say that, and not make assumptions that "Americans just want to get fucked up".

Your "preachy Americans" signature is offensive, and speaks volumes about you. I find it would be very difficult to have a conversation with someone who seems to have a chip on their shoulder right off the bat.

What does it say about me exactly?

[ZBeebs]

A joint for me is about a gram or so. No tobacco!!

Why you guys put tobacco in your joints is beyond me. The stuff is nasty, full of chemicals and nicotine, and tastes like shit! (I smoked cigarettes for many years, quit two years ago, but never, ever spoiled my weed by adding tobacco)

If you can't handle smoking a j of pure weed, smoke a bowl or something instead.

Its got little to do with being to handle it and more to do with that the little stubby US joints when passed around is like people doing shots of tequllia sucking the shit out of it with bits of weed going in there mouth, thats not very conducive to me with a mellow pass around and conversation which i like about smoking.

I don't even understand this response. Why is there weed in the tequila? Do you pour a single shot then pass it around, everyone taking a sip? Why would a joint have bits of weed coming out? and if that's a problem you guys have, how does tobacco solve that problem?

[Toker70]

So when an American says something about smoking pure, we are given shit about missing the point and only wanted to get "mashed up as fast as possible", but when one of your own says they only smoke pure, you guys are in awe and pat him on the back.

Real nice guys.

Still doesn't change the fact that tobacco adds nothing positive to weed, and you can just smoke less if smoking a whole joint pure is too much for you. I think some of you guys are in denial and are addicted to the tobacco and saying "it makes the weed burn better" is the only thing you can come up with.

I don't think anyone gave u shit about smoking pure...if thats what floats your boat than all good...no one's in awe of smoking pure......yes we probably are addicted to the nicotine but hey(and only speaking for myself here) thats what smoking tobacco does to you.To me smoking a joint with tobacco in makes the joint a whole lot more pleaurseable(sp)where as if i wanted to get fucked up quickly i could smoke pure or just put less tobacco in.....tbh it's all a matter of preferance,nothing else

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

I don't even understand this response. Why is there weed in the tequila? Do you pour a single shot then pass it around, everyone taking a sip? Why would a joint have bits of weed coming out? and if that's a problem you guys have, how does tobacco solve that problem?

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To smoke a pure stubby American joint is like doing shots of tequllia, its a quick intake of alot of substance which results in getting intoxicated as quick as possible. Hence the comparison of doing shots.

European joints are bigger, longer etc. Due to the tobacco most of the time. This allows the joint to be smoked slowly, passed round many times, in what many people consider to be a more social act. Like drinking a Beer rather than doing shots.

Every American style roach-less joint i have ever smoked has resulted in mass shoot through, i.e little bits of weed in the mouth. In my experience, it was not a pleasant mellow experience, more a pass it here hit the shit out of it and get as mashed as possible. That's not always a bad thing, its not my thing.

[Marco]

Zbeebs, I am American too and my point is, why not let the Euros smoke their joints like they enjoy? No need for anyone to use of word poison.

We are guests over here.....,

[geoffk]

Fuck those stubby American joints, I smoke big fat pure cones.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Fuck those stubby American joints, I smoke big fat pure cones.

The less discussed ' 3rd option.'

[Boner]

I think the old "opinions are like arseholes everyone has one" saying comes to mind.

[nehctik]

I will smoke pure or mixed, I dont mind either way, when someone else rolls I'll smoke it how ever they roll it, but since I cant roll, when I fill/use emtpy cones I smoke pure and when using a rolling machine I smoke mixed, due to the fact the machine is a kingsized one and it does seem to burn better with tobacco, and you cant claim Im addicted to tobacco since I dont smoke cigarettes and only rarely smoke weed due to not having any contacts to buy at the moment.
However I personally am accustomed to smoking european style rolled joints, I.e with a roach, I havent smoked many american style joints but when I have I've always experienced small bits of weed coming out when you draw the smoke in.
This is why I prefere the euro style, but as for the pure/mixed debate I figure smoke what you like

[Uncle Ron]

A joint for me is about a gram or so. No tobacco!!

Why you guys put tobacco in your joints is beyond me. The stuff is nasty, full of chemicals and nicotine, and tastes like shit! (I smoked cigarettes for many years, quit two years ago, but never, ever spoiled my weed by adding tobacco)

If you can't handle smoking a j of pure weed, smoke a bowl or something instead.

Its got little to do with being to handle it and more to do with that the little stubby US joints when passed around is like people doing shots of tequllia sucking the shit out of it with bits of weed going in there mouth, thats not very conducive to me with a mellow pass around and conversation which i like about smoking.

Nice one Sir.
I will however state that in my recent experiences, more people (read Americans) are using filters, but not tobacco. I too can't stand the bits, sort of like having to spit out pubes (the female kind thank you).
In a social setting and it's my turn to roll, no mix added, ever (my choice, lovely) '8)' I still roll a decent sized spliff, usually the same size as mixed. I should mention that I don't have the financial constraints as some with paying for 2-3 grams per joint. Oh goody for me (sarcasm).
When some have complained its to strong, I suggest that they don't hit the joint so hard. The girls usually give me a hard look before smiling. They know....

This method accomplishes, but is not limited to, the following:
1. Burns somewhat better.
2. More fill + less gear = gear lasting longer.
3. Cheaper. More fill + less gear = less gear needed.
3. In a social setting, more is always better. Like having a keg of beer vs. a fifth of whiskey: more to go around (always a good thing).
4. Most importantly, and simplest reason, people chose to.

Fuck the piss-poor attitudes of European vs. American vs. whomever. It's all B.S. No judgment. To each their own as it should be.
Grind it, roll it, lick it, light it, and smoke it. Or fuck all and pack a bowl.

Peace.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

You know whats strange DUR, all the Canadians i've had the pleasure of smoking with have used a filter/roach. Has this always been a difference across the boarder? If it is has the trend of Americans using filters come from the north rather than across the pond i wonder?

[Old Timer]

A joint for me is about a gram or so. No tobacco!!

Why you guys put tobacco in your joints is beyond me. The stuff is nasty, full of chemicals and nicotine, and tastes like shit! (I smoked cigarettes for many years, quit two years ago, but never, ever spoiled my weed by adding tobacco)

If you can't handle smoking a j of pure weed, smoke a bowl or something instead.

Its got little to do with being to handle it and more to do with that the little stubby US joints when passed around is like people doing shots of tequllia sucking the shit out of it with bits of weed going in there mouth, thats not very conducive to me with a mellow pass around and conversation which i like about smoking.

Nice one Sir.
I will however state that in my recent experiences, more people (read Americans) are using filters, but not tobacco. I too can't stand the bits, sort of like having to spit out pubes (the female kind thank you).
In a social setting and it's my turn to roll, no mix added, ever (my choice, lovely) '8)' I still roll a decent sized spliff, usually the same size as mixed. I should mention that I don't have the financial constraints as some with paying for 2-3 grams per joint. Oh goody for me (sarcasm).
When some have complained its to strong, I suggest that they don't hit the joint so hard. The girls usually give me a hard look before smiling. They know....

This method accomplishes, but is not limited to, the following:
1. Burns somewhat better.
2. More fill + less gear = gear lasting longer.
3. Cheaper. More fill + less gear = less gear needed.
3. In a social setting, more is always better. Like having a keg of beer vs. a fifth of whiskey: more to go around (always a good thing).
4. Most importantly, and simplest reason, people chose to.

Fuck the piss-poor attitudes of European vs. American vs. whomever. It's all B.S. No judgment. To each their own as it should be.
Grind it, roll it, lick it, light it, and smoke it. Or fuck all and pack a bowl.

Peace.

Uncle Ron's last two sentences say it all!
"Fuck the piss-poor attitudes of European vs. American vs. whomever. It's all B.S. No judgment. To each their own as it should be.
Grind it, roll it, lick it, light it, and smoke it. Or fuck all and pack a bowl."

[Uncle Ron]

You know whats strange DUR, all the Canadians i've had the pleasure of smoking with have used a filter/roach. Has this always been a difference across the boarder? If it is has the trend of Americans using filters come from the north rather than across the pond i wonder?

Honestly, I really don't know. All of my experience with smokers from Canada was from the far-east, New Brunswick, PEI, and Nova Scotia, in the mid to late 1970's. Back then, some smoked with filters, some didn't. Doesn't mean it wasn't prevalent, I didn't pay any attention. Girls. '8)'
Why I never picked up on using a filter is beyond me. Resin on my fingers and lips (when I didn't have a clip), not to mention sucking the bits and pieces.
In my defense, I should state that I have always been a bowler, and in recent years, a vapor head. Typically, a joint would be passed to me, I would take a hit, and pass it along. I was much too interested in talking with the girls than thinking about, well, pretty much anything else. I still am. ''

Roll the bud; Bowl the bud; Vape the bud. Just don't BOGART the bud.

Peace.

[Willjay]

Another american here, when I started smoking we had two types of papers ZigZag or big top. You all know ZigZag. big top was like a news paper. Filters were not, well I guess we just rolled and smoked back then. Flash forward to today, my arthritic fingers don't twist that well any more and I do one hits, fresh green each time. However I do think that the filter would be verry cool in a joint, for the reasons mentioned in this thread. When I do roll I get three to a gram. Next time I'm in the dam I just might ask one of you to roll one for us.