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Stanky Danky wrote:There is no pro-American sentiment in telling him America is fighting the taliban, not the country of Afghanistan. I was simply correcting him where he was factually incorrect. America has already instated a new leader in Afghanistan, they have no need to defeat the country.
Course not, theres no obviously pro-American sentiment in that as apposed to what Adamster and others think that America only used Afghanistan as a jump to Iraq and the war is based as much on religious differences between the old guard of Evangelical Christians and Islam?

Your a history major right, you must of the statement that ' History is written by the victors?" This is my point you keep saying facts facts facts. But you have no idea if they are facts, its your interpretation that they are facts. You was not there when the decisions where made, you do not know anymore than the rest of us. But you attribute factual statements towards yours, but anyone other is wrong. My point, which your ignoring, is your facts are no more factual than Adamsters, you call bias on his, theres bias on yours EVERYTHING HAS BIAS.

Im not here to discuss the pros and cons of Afghanistan reform, but, i wouldnt shout so loudly about instilling a new leader when he only got his place because of stuffed ballots and corruption, thereby making this Government corrupt. Lets not forget who funded and armed the Taliban in the first place?

But as i said, im not here to discuss that, you can change the subject and dodge the point all you want, but my views are biased, as are yours, as are Adamsters and everyone elses.


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Adamster isn't an idiot because of his poor grammar, he's an idiot because he's a racist, a bigot, and a fascist. Look at Aamster's response to the post that started this all. Why use the term "black idiot"? Just say idiot. I guarantee the customs agents didn't tell him they were searching him because he was a white person who was too polite. If anyone believes that they're as stupid as Adamster. By Adamster's own admission, he's Indian. No way anyone is going to confuse an Indian with a Caucasian.

And keep reading his post. He claims he told those "black agents" (instead of just saying agents) that they didn't have to blame white men for what happened to them 150 years ago! Are you fucking kidding me?! If that isn't racist, what is?? He's lucky they were professionals. Had he said that to a black man on the street, he would have gotten his ass stomped. Imagine someone from the US going through British customs and giving the customs agents a hard time about the Revolutionary War! He even claims that they tried to "steal" his passport.

I'm not sure why anyone would even bother defending Adamster's inexcusable actions. He is probably the most moronic, puerile, racist individual I have ever come across in my entire lifetime. I could care less if he hates the US. Stay the fuck out then, but don't repeatedly belabor the point. It would be easy to verbally attack Canadians or Indians, but what's the point? Adamster needs to grow up, period.
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
Stanky Danky wrote:There is no pro-American sentiment in telling him America is fighting the taliban, not the country of Afghanistan. I was simply correcting him where he was factually incorrect. America has already instated a new leader in Afghanistan, they have no need to defeat the country.
Course not, theres no obviously pro-American sentiment in that as apposed to what Adamster and others think that America only used Afghanistan as a jump to Iraq and the war is based as much on religious differences between the old guard of Evangelical Christians and Islam?

Your a history major right, you must of the statement that ' History is written by the victors?" This is my point you keep saying facts facts facts. But you have no idea if they are facts, its your interpretation that they are facts. You was not there when the decisions where made, you do not know anymore than the rest of us. But you attribute factual statements towards yours, but anyone other is wrong. My point, which your ignoring, is your facts are no more factual than Adamsters, you call bias on his, theres bias on yours EVERYTHING HAS BIAS.

Im not here to discuss the pros and cons of Afghanistan reform, but, i wouldnt shout so loudly about instilling a new leader when he only got his place because of stuffed ballots and corruption, thereby making this Government corrupt. Lets not forget who funded and armed the Taliban in the first place?

But as i said, im not here to discuss that, you can change the subject and dodge the point all you want, but my views are biased, as are yours, as are Adamsters and everyone elses.
Don't worry I'm not going to change the subject, like you did at the beginning of your post. I'm just going to tell you to chill out and relax. Your getting way too worked up over some seriously trivial bullshit.
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DazedandConfusedinOR wrote:Adamster isn't an idiot because of his poor grammar, he's an idiot because he's a racist, a bigot, and a fascist. Look at Aamster's response to the post that started this all. Why use the term "black idiot"? Just say idiot. I guarantee the customs agents didn't tell him they were searching him because he was a white person who was too polite. If anyone believes that they're as stupid as Adamster. By Adamster's own admission, he's Indian. No way anyone is going to confuse an Indian with a Caucasian.

And keep reading his post. He claims he told those "black agents" (instead of just saying agents) that they didn't have to blame white men for what happened to them 150 years ago! Are you fucking kidding me?! If that isn't racist, what is?? He's lucky they were professionals. Had he said that to a black man on the street, he would have gotten his ass stomped. Imagine someone from the US going through British customs and giving the customs agents a hard time about the Revolutionary War! He even claims that they tried to "steal" his passport.

I'm not sure why anyone would even bother defending Adamster's inexcusable actions. He is probably the most moronic, puerile, racist individual I have ever come across in my entire lifetime. I could care less if he hates the US. Stay the fuck out then, but don't repeatedly belabor the point. It would be easy to verbally attack Canadians or Indians, but what's the point? Adamster needs to grow up, period.
So mentioning peoples colours is completely wrong? I honestly dont think there was racism behind it, i dont justify prejudice, and if Adamster will say that his original statement was racist i will take back any defense of him i have said. The mention of someones colour alone dosnt consitute racsim for me. There was a similar mention of this on the board before, when someone dropped the N bomb, but they were at least given the chance to explain themselves before the whole board called him fascist!

I dont know where his bigotry or fascism was expressed though, perhaps thats just throwing words around?

He may not like America, he may not want to go there, but he has the right to say whatever he wants about the US. I appreciate you dont rip other countries, imo thats more mature. but he has the right to say what the fuck he wants.

Edit: I missed the 150 year comment, perhaps that does require explanations?
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Adamster didn't just mention someones color. It's OK to call someone black, but that's not what Adamster said. He called someone a "black idiot". Imagine a black man calling you a "white idiot". Sounds pretty racist doesn't it. Adding someones race in front of an insult makes you look racist, whether intentional or not.
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Look, I'm terribly disappointed that I let Adamster bring me down to his level so this is the last thing I will say regarding him.

I respect everyone's right to have an opinion. That's what is so great about the country I call home. That said, just exercise a little bit of decency and respect for your fellow mankind and the world will be a better place.
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Stanky Danky wrote:Adamster didn't just mention someones color. It's OK to call someone black, but that's not what Adamster said. He called someone a "black idiot". Imagine a black man calling you a "white idiot". Sounds pretty racist doesn't it. Adding someones race in front of an insult makes you look racist, whether intentional or not.
See, for me, its whether it was intentional as that represents concious rasicisit thought. If i describe someone as black, im not saying it because it bothers me, im saying it 'cos they're black, it dosn't matter to me or change a way i educated them in my job. Class on the other hand creates huge differences but thats a different topic.

Look, I'm terribly disappointed that I let Adamster bring me down to his level so this is the last thing I will say regarding him.
I respect everyone's right to have an opinion. That's what is so great about the country I call home. That said, just exercise a little bit of decency and respect for your fellow mankind and the world will be a better place.
I disagree, i think that Kant had it right, the only duty towards each other is to empathise with anothers pain in regards to offense. We cant let compulsion dictate our voices, instead we must only let ourselves become infected by their pain as Kant says. Our duties so not extend to constrict our freedom of speech. To me the world would be better to do that live in fear of enacting freedoms.
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Anyone notice how female board members rarely involve themselves in these type of macho threads, fascinating as they are ?
Nothing to do with gratuitously mysogonist comments like the following when the boys get their peckers up is it ?

DazedandConfusedinOR
The only thing I want to see Palin in is Playboy. She epitomizes what a MILF should be. Dumb as nails but a total fox.
Playboy, do they still publish that ? Does anyone still buy it :?: :shock:
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spidergawd wrote:Anyone notice how female board members rarely involve themselves in these type of macho threads, fascinating as they are ?
Nothing to do with gratuitously mysogonist comments like the following when the boys get their peckers up is it ?

DazedandConfusedinOR
The only thing I want to see Palin in is Playboy. She epitomizes what a MILF should be. Dumb as nails but a total fox.
Playboy, do they still publish that ? Does anyone still buy it :?: :shock:
Is it because they're making us pies?

:wink:

Im only kidding SG.
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Im only kidding SG.
I know that mate, :)
I noticed in a thread a while back that the mention of Sarah Palin elicited a similar sexist knee jerk reaction although in that case it was far from humorous, it was quite unpleasant.
Just thought I'd flag it up guys as eliminating bias and prejudice where ever they occur, require an awareness of them, and a bit of effort and forethought in not perpetuating and reinforcing them.
I mean no offence to anyone, passionate debate is oxygen but I think its where we most easily slip up.
That concludes the Sexual Politics module, class dismissed. :roll:
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spidergawd wrote:

Im only kidding SG.
I know that mate, :)
I noticed in a thread a while back that the mention of Sarah Palin elicited a similar sexist knee jerk reaction although in that case it was far from humorous, it was quite unpleasant.
Just thought I'd flag it up guys as eliminating bias and prejudice where ever they occur, require an awareness of them, and a bit of effort and forethought in not perpetuating and reinforcing them.
I mean no offence to anyone, passionate debate is oxygen but I think its where we most easily slip up.
That concludes the Sexual Politics module, class dismissed. :roll:

:lol:

Awesome point, an post which turns into discussion on bias and predujice sexism so easily....a womens mind see's things more clearly i guess?
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Awesome point, an post which turns into discussion on bias and predujice sexism so easily....a womens mind see's things more clearly i guess?
:) :) 37 years married to a 60's feminist, three daughters and three grand daughters, man I'm almost an honorary woman. Or the token male, I'm not sure. :) :)
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ONE MORE RANT!! « this will tell you how i HATE the US(d)A(H)!!

HAITI AIRPORT! WHO the F gave them the right to tell AID coming from FRANCE an AIRPLANE HOSPITAL they couldnt LAND in HAITI! « why its cause they want to be the saviors « WELL the US HOPITAL SHIP is 5 DAYS AWAY!! PEOPLE NEED AID NOW NOT IN 5 FREAKEN DAYS!!
they TOOK CONTROL WHEN JUST MONTHS AGO THEY DID EVEN WANT TO HELP HAITI « AINT THAT STUPID? MORE STUPID IS THE CLINTON-BUSH-HAITI.ORG « Way for them to pocket MONEY!THE FRENCH or BRITTS should be in CHARGES just show now igniorant the AMERICAN Gouverment ARMY are and you ppl are goin on about me being racist an idiot .... well YOUR the idiots who also are provoking ME :wink:

NOW Tiny JK!

Got stop by 2 female cops today- gave my ID to the one whom came out on my side .the other cop came around started asking Question.. ask me to turn and face the car...so i did...tells me face...so i do...then ask if i can ask her a question.. :roll: (since i love to ask questiions)so i asked her ... if she got a liquor license? :twisted: .....
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Where is it you got stoped by two female cops,what city?Montreal?
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Dimon wrote:Where is it you got stoped by two female cops,what city?Montreal?
yeah! cute cops also about 30years old
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