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britains secret farms

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bbc 3:cannabis britains secret farms
is anyone else watching this to see what lies it tells?


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Post by bigbuds »

yeah ive had a smoke and watched it, fairly balanced Id say, although they should have compared the segments on the few peoples bad experiences with those who live normal lives whilst being a smoker.

I dont feel bad when i see the massive factories shut down, just cringe at the wasteage, its the guys who got busted with 3 plants or whatever that you feel for. i dont want to buy my gear from someone who just wants to make money. i think it probably accidentaly proved that theyre going about it the wrong way by chasing gangs of growers, and that decriminialisation of a pretty much harmless drug would get rid of the criminals whilst also ensuring us good gear and stop us having to do any criminal purchasing
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cant believe this post only got 1 reply so far but i agree with you completly big budds. at least it didnt label all weed as 'skunk' but should have been more balanced. Didnt like that chaps mother who made the family go to see a counsellor (sp) because of his MJ habit, claiming if he turned up he'd be in smelly clothes with urine stains down his trousers! sounds like he had a booze problem as well but she just came across as a bit of a silly cow if you ask me. not bad show all in all, nice shots of mokum and it did address the contaminate problem.
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Post by Justboy »

just watched the show and thought i was a fairly good documentary.

one thing i did really think that came across from the show was the need for decriminalization, for a number of reasons. firstly it showed the the current laws just don't work, because clearly there is a huge market for weed in UK, and because it is an illegal substance it means that it has become a goldmine for organised crime. and also the fact that there is no regulation in the market for weed means that there can easily be things added such as the crushed glass which they talked about, which makes it less safe for us to smoke and makes more money fo the people doing it.

in a regulated market we would know what we were smoking and know it was safe. another point which they raised was that on average people who started smoking weed where first doing so around 14/15 years old, and the health expert said that whatever risks there may be linked with smoking weed that they were most common in young people who brains where still developing. in a legal market place we could regulate the age at which you can buy weed eg. 18+ and therefore reduce any risks which may exist.

to me it just makes sense that it should be legal, as the current legal status is the very cause of many of the perceived problems associated with smoking weed.
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cant believe this post only got 1 reply so far...
https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 8b7bcb3904

Disappointed by the lack of discussion as to whether prohibition is an appropriate tool to deal with certain drug users.
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Post by Marco »

Watched it and thought it was pretty biased. I feel for that woman who lost her son, but I have to believe more was going on there than she wanted to admit. To say its not like the weed from the 70s or 80s was a bit trite....the loads of other drugs that were so common then is never mentioned.

Bigbuds, those massive factories didn't seem so massive to me. If there are really millions of smokers out there, someone has to grow to meet all that demand. Its like wine or beer, you will always have the small-batch connoisseur but the majority still will but their gear from the mass market.
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doobydave wrote:
cant believe this post only got 1 reply so far...
https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 8b7bcb3904

Disappointed by the lack of discussion as to whether prohibition is an appropriate tool to deal with certain drug users.
just thought it be a hot topic of discussion whilst the show was airing thats all, the thread above has barely any discussion on this show at the time im writing this.
we need to stand up and be counted in the U.K if we are ever to see our cannabis prohabition laws changed. Shows like this, whether good or bad, biased or unbiased do cannabis, and its many users no favours. If cannabis was accepted on a social and economic level as it should be by our debt ridden country, then shows like this would haave no reason to be made at all.
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I thought it was nothing new.
Some good footage of Amsterdam, and the Interview with Wernard in Anyday was good, but it didn't offer me anything new really.

Pot is stronger, might cause problems for youngsters, criminal gangs, contaminated herb, blah, blah, blah...

I swoop of new legislation would sort out 90% of the problems spoke of in this documentary IMHO.
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Post by Kingdoc »

Twichaldinho wrote:I thought it was nothing new.
Some good footage of Amsterdam, and the Interview with Wernard in Anyday was good, but it didn't offer me anything new really.

Pot is stronger, might cause problems for youngsters, criminal gangs, contaminated herb, blah, blah, blah...

I swoop of new legislation would sort out 90% of the problems spoke of in this documentary IMHO.


Na just the same s**t but different day,It passed the time if nothing else.
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Post by Uncle Ron »

Kingdoc wrote:
Twichaldinho wrote:I thought it was nothing new.
Some good footage of Amsterdam, and the Interview with Wernard in Anyday was good, but it didn't offer me anything new really.

Pot is stronger, might cause problems for youngsters, criminal gangs, contaminated herb, blah, blah, blah...

I swoop of new legislation would sort out 90% of the problems spoke of in this documentary IMHO.


Na just the same s**t but different day,It passed the time if nothing else.
Can't agree more. One question I have is why did the producers concentrate on teenagers? The majority of smokers are over the age of 25, so why does the media always concentrate on the youngsters? Same with alcohol. SOSDD as above.

Comment on comments:
- I think Marco was correct in his assumption that there was more going on than was reported about the suicide. His consuming cannabis may not have helped, but I cast doubt that this was the reason. Remember how she stated that he had gone through emotional changes, well, mental illnesses such as depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety, etc... usually are the root cause for suicide when given identifiers as she described.
I saw this coming a mile away: Depressed teenager smokes cannabis. Depressed teenager commits suicide. Cannabis was the cause of the suicide. The fallacy, post hoc ergo propter hoc, best describes this very sad situation.

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