I gave up tobacco,anyone else here do the dam baccy free?

redeyed · Post by **redeyed** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 02:15 pm

Greets to all, I have a problem(maybe?) in that my first trip to the dam since giving up the dreaded cigarettes to the dam comes next week.

Im worried

on a couple of levels and would like to know if anyone has any knowledge of these things to impart?I gave up cigarettes October 09 a couple of days after the birth of my first child.Previous to this I would have smoked a lot of tobacco but also a lot of weed.Since giving up I havent smoked any weed whatsoever

.Leaving for 3 days next wednesday and very worried about the following

1.Having to smoke all joints pure. I have done this occasionally before but not always.Wont this be hyper expensive?I also think it may make me meet my inner cabbage way too soon.
2.By smoking ready made blunts or blunt style papers (which I think are mostly tobacco based?) will I be likely to get nicotine cravings from these?Dont want to go back to smoking.

Sorry for the almost test style questions but I am real worried about coming back smoking cigarettes again.I also see that some will say hey use a bong or pipe but that aint really my style.Th e other fella Im going with seems to think that I will spend lots more money this time cos of the smoking pure bizness.Really like to hear from anyone with similar experiences/fears?Oh and while I look back I see I haveny mentioned smoking mix.Well to be honest anyone I have not heard a good word about them in a non nicotine sense.

Many thanks in advance

cant_think · Post by **cant_think** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 02:31 pm

Not sure about the blunts thing, but I reckon you might smoke less joints going pure, as you'll feel just the weed high and won't have the nicotine cravings telling you to build another joint when you don't really need one to get any higher...

MPSRuo · Post by **MPSRuo** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 03:45 pm

You know, we're very different here in the states. Although we smoke "blunts" (tobacco leaf paper), it's very rare to see someone smoking spliffs. "Joints" and "blunts" for us is 100% pure. I hate smoking tobacco and I never roll spliffs.

In may will be my 6th time back and I have never visited the dam and not have some dutch person comment on the fact that we smoke fat pures.

It get expensive, yeah, but you're on vacation. In addition, smoking half of a pure joint (.5g or so) will get you so faded you're good for a while. If you're worried about conserving and you'll only be smoking weed, I might suggest that you move away from joints / blunts. Yeah they're tasty and delicious, but realistically it's one of the most ineffective smoking methods known to stoners (in terms of % of THC wasted vs. inhaled).

My solution is 2-fold, when in the dam use coffeeshops':

1. Vaporizer - volcanos / glass-seated vapes found in Coffeeshops are awesome. I have a volcano at home and it saves your lungs and weed. Pack just a little bit, maybe .1 / .2 or .3 grams in a bowl and fill some bags. I especially recommend you start the day with bags so your day tolerance doesn't kick up to the heavens.

2. Bongs - use in-store bongs when vapes aren't available. Packing a pure bowl will get you nicely faded.

I wouldn't stress about no tobacco; If you feel an uncontrollable urge, settle for a hookah at a bar that offers one (they'll even let you drop in some hash! mmmm). I have been smoking weed for about 6 years now (daily for about 4.5 years) and I have no interest in cigarettes. In addition, I've been smoking hookah (not daily) for about 6 years as well and I have no cravings for it (not cigarettes)

Cheers and good luck

templeball · Post by **templeball** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 04:03 pm

Why bother smoking at all though if you dont smoke weed anymore either, wouldnt you be better off having a space cake or two, less stress all round....ive got the same dilemma, I quit the fags 6 weeks ago, still cant wait to see Dam in a few months though..

the answer above about the vaporizer is probably the best solution, also Im going to buy some shitty cheap african or cheaper thai/jamaican (5euro a gram) and use it as tobacco. Personally I think pure indoor bud joints are horrible, I cant smoke them without coughing my guts up, but are tolerable for me if I use some other weak weed as a filler...

bushdoctor · Post by **bushdoctor** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 04:44 pm

Don´t worry, man!

I quit smoking in 2002 and didn´t start it again. I really see no reason to regulary smoke cigarettes any more! I´m not a heavy user and smoke cannabis just occasionally every 6 weeks or so (and in Amsterdam of course!). And when I smoke cannabis I always smoke it with tobacco. Couldn´t get through to the pure smoking thing...

Before lighting the first joint of a smoking session I always smoke one single cigarette to have the infamous nicotin flash in advance.
Having tobacco and cannabis both kicking in simultanously, make me very, very sick. Smoking a cigarette before always helps.

And as I told you before, I never started smoking cigarettes again. So don´t be affraid, roll a joint and enjoy!

Pauli Wallnuts · Post by **Pauli Wallnuts** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 05:08 pm

i agree with bushdoctor, i stopped smoking cannabis in the uk in 2005, i now only smoke in the dam, i always roll my spliffs exactly like i used to with b&h, iv'e never once craved for 1when back home, before giving up i used to smoke 15cigs a day & about 8-10 j's (more on weekends) basically a box of 20a day, i did this for about 9years, so i would say i was addicted to the evil weed, but once i went a year without either i knew i could then go 2dam & enjoy myself without slipping back 2my old ways back home, if you really think that you might go back to smoking cigs when back home then maybe a vaporizer is your best bet or maybe wait a while longer before you go

ZBeebs · Post by **ZBeebs** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:09 pm

Pardon me for feeling so strongly about this, but my advice would be to NOT smoke tobacco under any circumstances. It is just not worth the chance that the nicotine cravings will hit. One persons experience does not dictate what yours will be and this is too serious of a thing to take a chance. I have learned that as a former tobacco smoker, ANY nicotine will have me craving cigarettes like mad, so I just can't touch the stuff at all. When in the dam, if someone offers me a joint I always ask what's in it, and if its got tobacco I politely decline.

Smoke smaller joints (we call them pinners in the states) or smoke half a joint. I know you said that pipes aren't your thing, but you really can't go wrong with a simple glass pipe and you will smoke less, joints can be wasteful, especially if you're not used to smoking them pure...you don't want to take two hits and then just leave it burning in the ashtray!

sh@dy · Post by **sh@dy** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:20 pm

ok guys, now this is my thread.

As a long-time joint smoker I will advise you the right way

its not super expensive, because you just dont roll that fat joints.
me e.g. always puts around 0,3-0,5 in a joint and am doing this since 2 years now.
when you roll pure, the important thing is, you roll long and thin, not short and fat.
first of all, its not as hard on the throat and the 2nd thing is, it lets you smoke longer....we have been smoking joints this way for quiet some time now and never had to increase the amount of weed so far.

blunts are made of tobacco, I wouldnt recommend them if you want to stop tobacco...would be like quiting cocain to smoke some crack

Kermit · Post by **Kermit** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:27 pm

I put baccy in my spliffs, only the smallest amount normally by the roach so not to waste to much weed. I inform people befor i pass a spliff that it has baccy in.
I dont smoke cigs and never have just like i dont drink booze and never have. If i have no baccy then i will have the odd totally pure or get the vape out.
As i have never actually smoked a cig i cant say how hard it is to quit but i have no probs stopping smoking weed.
It will be a cheap holiday for you, and for your first spliff i reccomend HGF Cheese pure. END OF DAY1

ynwa · Post by **ynwa** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:31 pm

I read the original post and wondered if i had posted that! I quit the tobacco 7 months ago roughly. Since then i have smoked no more than 10 pure grass joints. And when i say joints im talking about the small papers! problem is i now have no tolerance at all. One small spliff and im lying on my back. Effect last for a long long time though, and theres no urge to roll another. I have tried some herbal mix but its just not very nice.

In the next few weeks im heading to the dam and was also wondering what to do. I dont want to use tobacco, i dont feel i have been off it long enough to be able to use it for a few days then not use it again when im back home. Space cakes dont agree with me at all!

Last time i was in the dam, the last time i smoked tobacco, i tried out a volcano for the first time. Really easy on the throat and lungs. They are getting more popular in the dam now, so i think that may be the route i go.

Theres a goldmine there, for someone who invents a smoking mix which tastes nice and burns well, but isnt harmful like tobacco.

Pauli Wallnuts · Post by **Pauli Wallnuts** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:45 pm

ZBeebs wrote:I have learned that as a former tobacco smoker, ANY nicotine will have me craving cigarettes like mad, so I just can't touch the stuff at all. When in the dam, if someone offers me a joint I always ask what's in it, and if its got tobacco I politely decline.

be 100% honest, when you used to be a tobacco smoker did you used to add it to your spliffs?
its not as easy as you think to change the way you enjoy smoking, me personally i think smoking pure is not enjoyable, i do agree with you though if their is a chance that the person thinks they will start on the ciggies again then just steer clear, its all to do with willpower

ZBeebs · Post by **ZBeebs** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:45 pm

Quest are nicotine-free cigarettes, you could use them as filler?

I tried them years ago, and since there is no nicotine, they were horrible - the taste of cigarettes without the "hit" of nicotine. Was like getting a BJ, but she doesn't finish! Might be great for those of you looking for a filler though. Just make sure you buy "step 3", since steps 1 and 2 have nicotine in them.

ZBeebs · Post by **ZBeebs** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:53 pm

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:
ZBeebs wrote:I have learned that as a former tobacco smoker, ANY nicotine will have me craving cigarettes like mad, so I just can't touch the stuff at all. When in the dam, if someone offers me a joint I always ask what's in it, and if its got tobacco I politely decline.
be 100% honest, when you used to be a tobacco smoker did you used to add it to your spliffs?
its not as easy as you think to change the way you enjoy smoking, me personally i think smoking pure is not enjoyable, i do agree with you though if their is a chance that the person thinks they will start on the ciggies again then just steer clear, its all to do with willpower

I never mixed weed and tobacco (well, I did once but it tasted so bad I never did it again) , but its not the cigarette, or the method of delivery you get addicted to, its the nicotine. If you never smoked tobacco on its own, only with weed, that's one thing. But if you've been a nicotine addict, smoking ANY is playing with fire.

Gnarleydudeman · Post by **Gnarleydudeman** » Mon 15th Feb 2010 07:38 pm

You won't have a problem seriously there are many ways to get high from weed.

I smoked cigarettes for 9 years, then gave it up 7 years ago, as I have smoked weed throughout the entire 16 year period I have personal experience of being addicted to tobacco whilst also smoking weed, then giving up the tobacco and continuing to smoke weed.

Initially I smoked more weed as I was smoking my pure joints just as quick as my mixed joints. Gradually over a few months, I changed the way I smoked and started smoking to get high not just for the sake of it or subconciously in front of the TV. My weed usage dropped to about 3-5 grams a week from 10-15g a week.

I have taken 4 trips to dam when smoking pure, try a vapouriser, buy a small pipe, roll gram joints but smoke them slowly and enjoy them, ask to use their bong or rent one from a roor shop, buy edibles, but whatever you do don't worry about it.

And don't under any circumstances smoke any tobacco! Ur good to be rid of it, and whatever that funny stuff is they stick on the bar for filler - I don't go there, what do u want to smoke that shit for when there's good weed to smoke!

All my friends I go to Amsterdam with, all of them smoke tobacco and pass their joints around so I might be the odd one out in that respect however I know that in reality (the scary place that it is) they would all give a lung to be rid of their baccy habit, who knows - maybe one day they might have to.

Sorry for the preach

GDM

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Tue 16th Feb 2010 12:35 am

when im in the dam i smoke pure. thats not to say i wont be in a hurry and buy a pre rolled with baccy. if someone in a cs offers me a joint with tobacco in i'll most likely partake though. for me i roll pure because of the taste and high. the high is stronger and lasts longer and the lack tobacco keeps me from feeling edgy. i smoked cigs from 1999 -2005 and off and on since then and for me personally the occasional cig or tobcco spliff doesn't make me wanna start again. i firmly agree with pauli walnuts too in that its sometimes hard for one to change their prefered method of smoking. when i got my vape in 2007 i was mainly a blunt/bong man. i hated vaping at first, but now i love it.

that said IMO you should be fine with pure joints. give the vape a try too. for hash joints instead of baccy use some lower grade outdoor weed as filler.