John Venables

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 11:34 am

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm? ... e=s1i70435

I'd laugh if it wasn't true(ish).

Edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/ ... nding.html

Some interesting reading.

Cisco · Post by **Cisco** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 12:29 pm

i really cant get to grips that these boys did not know what they were doing , that it was because of there upbringing watching 18 videos and playing computer games ! What alot of Bullshit ! im sorry but you know right from wrong , that killing someone in the manner they done is ok and not their fault ! you know whats right and wrong and if not then society is no place for these kind of people !

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 12:32 pm

Yeah I knew that throwing rotten tomatoes over the wall into my neighbours garden was wrong when I was about 5 so I'm pretty sure I'd of known kidnapping, torturing and murdering (plus possibly sexual assaulting as well although they couldn't tell because of the state his body was in) wasn't the right thing to do at 10.

Sir Niall of Essex-sire · Wed 10th Mar 2010 02:13 pm

cisco wrote:i really cant get to grips that these boys did not know what they were doing , that it was because of there upbringing watching 18 videos and playing computer games ! What alot of Bullshit ! im sorry but you know right from wrong , that killing someone in the manner they done is ok and not their fault ! you know whats right and wrong and if not then society is no place for these kind of people !

It's not right from wrong i am arguing, its the consequences. At that age, violent video games, movies and home life dis-associate children from the impacts of violence. This is what i am saying is an issue, that the true horror of the crime was not able to be comprehended by 10 year olds. I know for me that when i was 10 i wasn't able to comprehend the finality of death.

Although i think the case for improper socialisation leading to warped views on right and wrong is extremely convincing as well. Hard to prove though, i can get studies if you would want them. However, the complex nature of concepts and empathy being difficult to comprehend at such a young age is a much less controversial analysis, hence why i used it as a basis of my argument.

Also, we have had the privilege of a good up brining i am sure, these kids, most certainly did not and were most certainly brought up in a completely differently to what we were. It is therefore possible, i would argue logical, that the value systems would have been warped.

Trad · Post by **Trad** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 03:05 pm

Alex DeLarge was deemed a 'product of his enviroment' when he committed murder in Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece "A Clockwork Orange" and they 'rehabilitated' poor Alex too.
If you have not seen this oldie check it out.

Twichaldinho · Post by **Twichaldinho** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 05:27 pm

Trad wrote:Alex DeLarge was deemed a 'product of his enviroment' when he committed murder in Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece "A Clockwork Orange" and they 'rehabilitated' poor Alex too.
If you have not seen this oldie check it out.

Nothing wrong with a little bit "Ultraviolence"

Pauli Wallnuts · Post by **Pauli Wallnuts** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 06:58 pm

theres a text doin the rounds, supposedly giving his new name & where he's living, pretty stupid imo as it cant be verified, but if theirs any P.Kerseys out there i dont mind forwarding it

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 07:38 pm

Christ! this thread has grown arms & legs,But yea that little runt should have done some time in an adult jail

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Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 07:44 pm

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:theres a text doin the rounds, supposedly giving his new name & where he's living, pretty stupid imo as it cant be verified, but if theirs any P.Kerseys out there i dont mind forwarding it

It's bullshit.

Clicky for video.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... antes.html

Kermit · Post by **Kermit** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:28 pm

^^Might be reverse phycology^^

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:32 pm

I doubt it seeing that Jon Venables is in jail.

Kermit · Post by **Kermit** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:34 pm

Exactly

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:46 pm

I'm lost?

Kermit · Post by **Kermit** » Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:52 pm

What better way to hide some ones identity than stick it in the publics face.

Sir Niall of Essex-sire · Wed 10th Mar 2010 09:12 pm

Kermit wrote:What better way to hide some ones identity than stick it in the publics face.

Dude, i like your thinking, that anit going to happen imo.

His 'new' identity will remain on release if found not guilty, if he is guilty. It depens who wins the election.