Ash333 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that a Dutch local newspapers poll in Dutch is intended for Dutch locals? If we bombard this poll with votes then we will not get a true picture of the wishes of the local people, which after all ought to come first.
If they took a poll throughout the Netherlands regarding the closing of coffeeshops, guess what? They're gone. I have friends who were born and raised there, the double standard is alive and well.cisco wrote:Ash333 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that a Dutch local newspapers poll in Dutch is intended for Dutch locals? If we bombard this poll with votes then we will not get a true picture of the wishes of the local people, which after all ought to come first.
Not at all mate i ,was thinking the same thing , votes from anyone and their dog will not give a fair representation of the local vibe/feeling
I admire your fight IG, but don't you think it's fair for communities to decide what they want in their town, without tourists corrupting? I don't think people who don't vote have to refrain from bitching, i don't think it's my place to say what other people have in their town, their still allowed to have an opinion about it. While i would love to see WW continue as i do like the shops alot, i think it is only fair that people have the chance to say what they want in their town without it being corrupted by outsiders views.islandgurl wrote: If they took a poll throughout the Netherlands regarding the closing of coffeeshops, guess what? They're gone. I have friends who were born and raised there, the double standard is alive and well.
Amsterdam is by far the most liberal when it comes to coffeeshop thinking - get outside the dam and talk to locals; you'll find there is a stigma regarding coffeeshops. I met a Dutch friend in one over there, they said and I quote "Don't tell anyone we met in a coffeeshop." When I inquired as to why they explained the reasoning. Trust me when I say we will lose what we have in the Netherlands if it's only left up to them. Then what good is this forum?
I'll fight my (_[_) off, those of you who care can do so as well. Those who don't, refrain from bitching when the coffeeshops no longer exist.
I see your point, however, if we took a poll in our state regarding tourists, most people would not want them. Does it mean that's what is best for the state? No. We need those tourist dollars and would feel a huge crunch if the tourists stopped coming in droves as they do now.Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:I admire your fight IG, but don't you think it's fair for communities to decide what they want in their town, without tourists corrupting? I don't think people who don't vote have to refrain from bitching, i don't think it's my place to say what other people have in their town, their still allowed to have an opinion about it. While i would love to see WW continue as i do like the shops alot, i think it is only fair that people have the chance to say what they want in their town without it being corrupted by outsiders views.islandgurl wrote: If they took a poll throughout the Netherlands regarding the closing of coffeeshops, guess what? They're gone. I have friends who were born and raised there, the double standard is alive and well.
Amsterdam is by far the most liberal when it comes to coffeeshop thinking - get outside the dam and talk to locals; you'll find there is a stigma regarding coffeeshops. I met a Dutch friend in one over there, they said and I quote "Don't tell anyone we met in a coffeeshop." When I inquired as to why they explained the reasoning. Trust me when I say we will lose what we have in the Netherlands if it's only left up to them. Then what good is this forum?
I'll fight my (_[_) off, those of you who care can do so as well. Those who don't, refrain from bitching when the coffeeshops no longer exist.
After all isn't that what democracy is all about?
I see what you're saying, and you'll probably be right with the Tourist Euros ( although it would be interesting to see the % of people there for Coffeeshops vs. the people there for different reasons and the Stag parties there for the RLD etc.)I see your point, however, if we took a poll in our state regarding tourists, most people would not want them. Does it mean that's what is best for the state? No. We need those tourist dollars and would feel a huge crunch if the tourists stopped coming in droves as they do now.
The entire country would feel it as well because it's a ripple effect. Sometimes what the people think is best for them, isn't what's best for the country. I know I don't want my freedom compromised because of a bunch of stuffed-shirt conservatives. I live that enough here in the United States... a democracy.
( i dont agree with this at all, i'm just pointing it out.)
I feel as "Canna-Tourists" that our emails to the Mayor may at be a bit of a "wake up call" for him, that is if anyone reads them. The economy of the city would have to be effected by the loss of people like us. I think as consumers we have the right to voice our opinions, respectfully of course.hardboiled wrote:democracy is simply about $money$ - and how the pie gets sliced.
