Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds.....
Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds.....
Has anyone tried these? What could you compare the experience to? Any visuals? Would you try them again? What's the best way to ingest? Chew em up? Swallow whole? Any info would be appreciated! Thanks.
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jsmoker probably got old seeds or crappy seeds. I've had shrooms, acid, mescaline, but some of my lsa trips have compared favourably to them. It is more a head trip than anything else but you can get some nice visuals.
The seeds dont hold their potency well though, and some of them like african or indian ones are garbage, they wont do anything.
Of the different lsa seeds i prefer morning glorys, you need a lot more than HBW but they cause less nausea & have less of a body load than HBW.
If you get good, fresh, seeds, then you can have a really nice trip on them. They can be very euphoric if the set & setting are right. If you have them
-they take about 1-2hrs to kick in
-expect to trip for 12hrs
-if crushing the seeds and doing an infusion in water (USE MINERAL OR DISTILLED WATER) the chemicals in tap water degrade the alkaloids.
-have some anti nausea stuff on standby, if you have a weak stomach.
The seeds dont hold their potency well though, and some of them like african or indian ones are garbage, they wont do anything.
Of the different lsa seeds i prefer morning glorys, you need a lot more than HBW but they cause less nausea & have less of a body load than HBW.
If you get good, fresh, seeds, then you can have a really nice trip on them. They can be very euphoric if the set & setting are right. If you have them
-they take about 1-2hrs to kick in
-expect to trip for 12hrs
-if crushing the seeds and doing an infusion in water (USE MINERAL OR DISTILLED WATER) the chemicals in tap water degrade the alkaloids.
-have some anti nausea stuff on standby, if you have a weak stomach.
i have done a lot of research in to phsycadelics. i would consider myself an expert on the subject both from a scientific/medical/chemistry point of view and from the point of view of the user.
most of my research and also from using the lsa seeds (variety of sources and preperations) points to lsa being a very weak drug. I would also say the nausea (due to 5ht receptor stimulation) on the way up out weighs the trip effect.
i would agree with kaiser saucy that it is more of a head trip (think p.tampenisis but much much milder) with the visuals also very mild and in the form of surface colour changes rather than the beautiful geometrical visuals one can experience from mushrooms or cactus trips. most people i know that i have tried lsa agree with this.
from a chemisty point of view, what limited proper medical studies into lsa show is that although it is chemically related to lsd its efficacy on the same receptors in the brain is significantly less, and the effects produced are very limited. anyone who claims to have had a strong trip on them is very likely to have experienced a placebo element to their exerience. some studies have concluded all effects are placebo based.
that being said if you have never had a phsycadelic drug then it may be a good place to start. If you like the effects then try a proper one such as mushrooms, cactus, 2cb, lsd. If you "freak out" or dont like the effects then be glad you didnt take one of the above drugs. too many people dont treat phsycadelics with the respect they deserve. ie the clowns who have caused the ban in netherlands. if you have tried these then dont waste your time with lsa.
note: lsa is stucually similar to lsd but not the same. it does not share the same kind of chemical similarity that for example methylone or mephedrone do to mdma.
most of my research and also from using the lsa seeds (variety of sources and preperations) points to lsa being a very weak drug. I would also say the nausea (due to 5ht receptor stimulation) on the way up out weighs the trip effect.
i would agree with kaiser saucy that it is more of a head trip (think p.tampenisis but much much milder) with the visuals also very mild and in the form of surface colour changes rather than the beautiful geometrical visuals one can experience from mushrooms or cactus trips. most people i know that i have tried lsa agree with this.
from a chemisty point of view, what limited proper medical studies into lsa show is that although it is chemically related to lsd its efficacy on the same receptors in the brain is significantly less, and the effects produced are very limited. anyone who claims to have had a strong trip on them is very likely to have experienced a placebo element to their exerience. some studies have concluded all effects are placebo based.
that being said if you have never had a phsycadelic drug then it may be a good place to start. If you like the effects then try a proper one such as mushrooms, cactus, 2cb, lsd. If you "freak out" or dont like the effects then be glad you didnt take one of the above drugs. too many people dont treat phsycadelics with the respect they deserve. ie the clowns who have caused the ban in netherlands. if you have tried these then dont waste your time with lsa.
note: lsa is stucually similar to lsd but not the same. it does not share the same kind of chemical similarity that for example methylone or mephedrone do to mdma.
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I tried these once i chewed and swallowed 6 and was quite impressed however i should point out that was the 1st time i tried any kind of psychedelics. I agree it is a major mind trip (as in it got me thinking mad thoughts) rather than gettin any visual effects and i got quite nauseated for the first hour or 2 but once the nausea passed i really enjoyed it. Still lookin for wild mushrooms in britain to try a proper trip tho
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peyote is very illegal in uk. san pedro and peruvian tourch are completley legal. peruvian tourch has higher alkaloid content and gives a much better trip, somewhere half way between peyote and san pedro. My best ever cactus trip was off san pedro- approx 12hours intense and about another 8-12 fairly strong. peyote can last over 24hours (dose dependant)
however- and this is a big however. eating the cactus or preparing a tea is not the most pleasant to say the very least. i would describre drinking cactus brew to drinking your own vomit mixed with wax and soapy dish water. i love cactus trips but i really struggeled to drink it last time. extraction of the active ingredients is a lengthy unreliable process which can result in obtaining tiny amounts of mescaline crystal from large amounts of plant material even with good equipment. For example i tried it in a proper lab with poor results.
if you obtain san pedro i would recomend using at leat 50g of dried material for your first trip, if its peruvian tourch then i would use 25-30g. if you are able to get peyote then one large button should do thre job.
in comparison to shrooms and lsa (think already made my thoughts on this one clear) the nausea is stronger(due to wax content) , it can last for 1-3hours but once it fades you will feel fantastic. the come up can also take 3-4 hours before peak effects. I have had nothing but good trips off cactus and dont really see how if you have shroom experience you could have a bad trip. there is none of the sinister side to mescaline that exists with others. mescaline is also a relatively safe drug in overdose. if you take too much you will have a very long trip rather than anything!
however- and this is a big however. eating the cactus or preparing a tea is not the most pleasant to say the very least. i would describre drinking cactus brew to drinking your own vomit mixed with wax and soapy dish water. i love cactus trips but i really struggeled to drink it last time. extraction of the active ingredients is a lengthy unreliable process which can result in obtaining tiny amounts of mescaline crystal from large amounts of plant material even with good equipment. For example i tried it in a proper lab with poor results.
if you obtain san pedro i would recomend using at leat 50g of dried material for your first trip, if its peruvian tourch then i would use 25-30g. if you are able to get peyote then one large button should do thre job.
in comparison to shrooms and lsa (think already made my thoughts on this one clear) the nausea is stronger(due to wax content) , it can last for 1-3hours but once it fades you will feel fantastic. the come up can also take 3-4 hours before peak effects. I have had nothing but good trips off cactus and dont really see how if you have shroom experience you could have a bad trip. there is none of the sinister side to mescaline that exists with others. mescaline is also a relatively safe drug in overdose. if you take too much you will have a very long trip rather than anything!
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