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Here is hoping cannabis-friendly parties are major winners today. Also, parties that want to maintain and expand the not-dead-yet concept of Dutch tolerance.


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Exit poll puts VVD and Labour both on 31 seats, PVV is third with 22

Wednesday 09 June 2010

The definitive exit poll from the three combined news organisations Nos, RTL and ANP puts the right-wing Liberals VVD and Labour both on 31 seats in the new parliament. This represents a gain of nine seats for the VVD and a loss of two for Labour.

The poll puts Geert Wilders' anti-Islam PVV on 22 seats - up from nine at present, and well above opinion poll forecasts.

Outgoing prime minister Jan Peter Balkenende's CDA is on 21 in the poll, down from 41 at present.

Margin of error

Commentators are quick to point out that the margin of error in the poll can mount up to two seats.

Nevertheless, the poll indicates it will take four parties to form a new coalition government, and makes it doubtful the Netherlands will have a right-wing government. An alliance of the Liberals, CDA and PVV would have 74 seats in parliament.

Purple plus, an alliance of the VVD, Labour, D66 and GroenLinks would have 83 seats.

Smaller parties

The Socialist Party is on 16 seats, down from 25 four years ago. But both GroenLinks and the Liberal democrats D66 have won seats. GroenLinks is up four at 11 while D66 is up from three to 10.

Orthodox Christian party ChristenUnie is down one seat at five while the fundamentalist SGP, which does not believe women should vote, remains on two.

The animal rights party PvdD would lose one seat to take just one while Rita Verdonk's TON will disappear from parliament.

Wednesday's turnout was 74% (provisional figure ), the lowest since 1998, reports Nos. In the last general election in 2006 some 80.4% of the electorate voted.

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Post by Marco »

CDA 21
PvdA 30
SP 15
VVD 31
PVV 24
GroenLinks 10
ChristenUnie 5
D66 10
SGP 2
PvdD 2
TON 0

Now the real election begins....ie, coalition forming. The good news is that the CDA lost a lot of seats. They could still be in the government however.
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Bad day for the CDA. :lol:
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:Bad day for the CDA. :lol:
That is for sure.

It takes months to form coalitions, we could have a center-left or center-right, we will see.

Sadly, 1.5M voted for Wilders. Sad, sad, sad...
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Uhmmm, i dont know how is polithics in Holland but isnt a little worryng that a xenophobe anti-Islam party (PVV) has raised from 9 to 22 seats?
We have a similar party in Italy (Lega Nord) and they're a real pain in the ass.
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that is what democracy is Snupo - it's messy and filled with tradeoffs.

While I don't like the fundie nutjobs (fiscal conservative, social libertarian talking here :D ), they get a vote too.
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Snupo wrote:Uhmmm, i dont know how is polithics in Holland but isnt a little worryng that a xenophobe anti-Islam party (PVV) has raised from 9 to 22 seats?
We have a similar party in Italy (Lega Nord) and they're a real pain in the ass.
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Marco, I'm trying to find out what the outcome means for coffeeshops. From reading what I can of dutch press it looks like a possible coaltion is VVD, Labour, D66 and GroenLinks would be a fairly good thing for coffeeshops however also a possibility is a coaltion of Liberals, CDA and PVV which would be quite the opposite? I'm finding it confusing trying to put all the info together, maybe you can help?
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Snupo wrote:We have a similar party in Italy (Lega Nord) and they're a real pain in the ass.
You are so fuckin' right
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so who won and how will it effect the coffeeshops?
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The VVD won 31 seats, Labor 30, so VVD will try to form a gov.

Very sad 1.5 mil voted for Wilders.

They will try to form a right gov. first. The good news is the CDA lost badly and they were not good for the CS.
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Marco wrote:The VVD won 31 seats, Labor 30, so VVD will try to form a gov.

Very sad 1.5 mil voted for Wilders.

They will try to form a right gov. first. The good news is the CDA lost badly and they were not good for the CS.


The CDA have lost about half of there seats lmfao,That should keep there hands full for a while :lol:.
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Unemployed CDA, I heard the lions were hungry at the zoo.
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