iPhone 4

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Sat 17th Jul 2010 05:05 am

Dava wrote:if i wanna view flash videos id much rather view them on my computer?

if i wanna browse the web/forums etc.. then my iphone is ideal. i dont see the big point in apple not having the flash support, we dont ACTUALLY need it?

what do we miss from this? not much at all im my opinion, i know you can only pick this downside from the iPhone and maybe so but it just doesnt appeal to me

IMO iPhones are ideal for my business/pleasure use, its got everything i need in a well thought out package.

i just dont understand why people dont like iPhones, i didnt think they was good at first i hated touch screens, but once i had a play around with one it was perfect!

i agree 100%. if i want flash i'll just get on my laptop/desktop or any other real computer that i have access too. i don't really even look at youtube on my iphone. the only real sites i look at on my iphone are more simpler sites, cnn, espn.com, soccernet.com, ebay,facebook, wikipedia, niketalk, etc or any site that has a mobile site. i don't really even get on acd much. the screen is to small for me to read the posts or work many real detailed/ high bandwidth sites. im like this with all phones. as i said for anything other i'd just use my laptop or something unless i REALLY had to get on a certain site and i was w/o my laptop on the go or something.

TRANCE · Post by **TRANCE** » Sat 17th Jul 2010 01:23 pm

A mate told me after reading one his tech mags, that Apple may offer Flash via HTML 5. I honestly do think Apple not offering Flash is ludicrous, not in any way slagging off iphone users, just Apple's choice. The day they offer Flash they'll probably monopolise the entire market despite their 2 year shelf life based on the pattern of releases.

Dava · Post by **Dava** » Sat 17th Jul 2010 02:07 pm

TRANCE wrote:A mate told me after reading one his tech mags, that Apple may offer Flash via HTML 5. I honestly do think Apple not offering Flash is ludicrous, not in any way slagging off iphone users, just Apple's choice. The day they offer Flash they'll probably monopolise the entire market despite their 2 year shelf life based on the pattern of releases.

yeah but its because 'steve jobs' thinks flash is dead technology and takes up a lot of bandwidth. i mean we can get most youtube videos on the phone anyway so what more flash videos would i want to see? i dont know wether the technology is dead or not but i know apple dislike of it.

@cantona7, have you got the new iphone? i can read the whole page of ACD without having to zoom in because the display can make the text that small and still readable but yeh its not overly comfortable browsing a forum on a phone but its alot easier now.

TRANCE · Post by **TRANCE** » Sat 17th Jul 2010 02:18 pm

I think it's more to do with Flash being buggy rather than anything else. It can cause issues sometimes and even I know certain codes and techniques using Flash to mess things around if I wanted to.

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Sat 17th Jul 2010 08:01 pm

Dava wrote:
TRANCE wrote:A mate told me after reading one his tech mags, that Apple may offer Flash via HTML 5. I honestly do think Apple not offering Flash is ludicrous, not in any way slagging off iphone users, just Apple's choice. The day they offer Flash they'll probably monopolise the entire market despite their 2 year shelf life based on the pattern of releases.

yeah but its because 'steve jobs' thinks flash is dead technology and takes up a lot of bandwidth. i mean we can get most youtube videos on the phone anyway so what more flash videos would i want to see? i dont know wether the technology is dead or not but i know apple dislike of it.

@cantona7, have you got the new iphone? i can read the whole page of ACD without having to zoom in because the display can make the text that small and still readable but yeh its not overly comfortable browsing a forum on a phone but its alot easier now.

not yet dude, i ordered mine when i upgraded but its backordered. they said 2 weeks or so and that was last thursday or friday so maybe another week more or less. haven't really used the iphone 4 much even the display ones.

Dava · Post by **Dava** » Sat 17th Jul 2010 09:08 pm

Yeh ul be nothing short of impressed mate.

The video recording quality is second to none, yeah it might take up slot of memory but there's nothing stopping u to transfer it onto ur comp and storing there!

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Sat 17th Jul 2010 09:30 pm

Dava wrote:Yeh ul be nothing short of impressed mate.

The video recording quality is second to none, yeah it might take up slot of memory but there's nothing stopping u to transfer it onto ur comp and storing there!

yea transfer to iphoto is a snap

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 08:45 am

picked mine up. but it didn't come with a sim card removing tool. thanks steve jobs.

other than that like it. gonna get my free aple bumper even though iv got a case. been sending video messages to my friends non stop. my only worry is what if someone does a face to face(facetime) call with me when im on the john or something?

Dava · Post by **Dava** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 09:38 am

lol, the pin was inside the box (attached to the little manual?)

mine was there ok!, and i have reading online that they have managed to hack into the iPad to play flash, so no doubt soon that hack will come to iPhone 4 as its hardware is the same!

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 09:51 am

theres some article on wikileak about why steve jobs doesn't want flash on iphone/ipad. didn't read it but thought i'd mention it.

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 10:02 am

also would like to add i think my iphone was part of a batch made to be sent to the uk. when i first turned it on it was set to English(uk) the only destination on the weather tab was London(always been cupertino California here), and was also set to Celsius and the 24 hr clock as well. so if anyone on here from the uk didn't get their iphone i apologize.

Dava · Post by **Dava** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 04:37 pm

cantona7 wrote:also would like to add i think my iphone was part of a batch made to be sent to the uk. when i first turned it on it was set to English(uk) the only destination on the weather tab was London(always been cupertino California here), and was also set to Celsius and the 24 hr clock as well. so if anyone on here from the uk didn't get their iphone i apologize.

maybe Apple have realised englands the only country worth bothering with? hahaha only joking! yeah steve jobs didnt want it because of it being quite buggy depending who designed the flash etc.. and also eats up alot of bandwidth loading a flash website.

Pauli Wallnuts · Post by **Pauli Wallnuts** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 06:41 pm

cantona7 wrote:the only destination on the weather tab was London(always been cupertino California here), and was also set to Celsius and the 24 hr clock as well.

i like £'s, lb's, gallons,eights & ounces, but seriously fahrenheit???

why u americans always gotta be different in an akward way

ok it sounds real dramatic when its really hot and you can say its over 100* out, but what about when its freezing, saying its 30degrees out dont sound to dramatic to me

it makes sense that water freezes @ 0 degrees not 32 (i had to check that

) &boils @ a hundred.
+ milimetres is a much easier form of measurements than 16ths of an inch, trust me i work in a garage, & i always get confused with the old imperial spanners

TRANCE · Post by **TRANCE** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 07:18 pm

I don't know about anybody else, but when it's summer here in the UK I tend to use Fahrenheit numbers to say how hot it is, but come winter I tend to use Celsius numbers. I know it's strange, but it's a sort of habit I've got myself into and even adjust the temperature sensor on my car dash when it's winter or summer, flipping between the two accordingly.

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Mon 26th Jul 2010 07:20 pm

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:
cantona7 wrote:the only destination on the weather tab was London(always been cupertino California here), and was also set to Celsius and the 24 hr clock as well.
i like £'s, lb's, gallons,eights & ounces, but seriously fahrenheit??? why u americans always gotta be different in an akward way ok it sounds real dramatic when its really hot and you can say its over 100* out, but what about when its freezing, saying its 30degrees out dont sound to dramatic to me it makes sense that water freezes @ 0 degrees not 32 (i had to check that ) &boils @ a hundred.
+ milimetres is a much easier form of measurements than 16ths of an inch, trust me i work in a garage, & i always get confused with the old imperial spanners

i think they tried to switch in the 60's dude, but it would have just cost to much money and such i think. i think people who work with mechanical tools on cars like you said have some knowledge of the metric system because of diff tool sizes and such. and then theres drugs..which help us Americans get a grip on metric weights.

also like you said hearing its 122 degrees in las vegas is more impressive than hearing its 52 or w/e haha. same goes on your end when i hear its -28 or w/e in moscow but in Fahrenheit its just like 34. could be worse i guess..at least we're not on kelvin or something .