CALIFORNIA'S CANNABIS CULTURE

Puffin13 · Post by **Puffin13** » Tue 20th Jul 2010 07:14 am

CALIFORNIA’S CANNABIS CULTURE
19 July 2010

In November 2010, Californians will be voting on whether or not to legalize marijuana for recreational use. If passed, California will become the first US state to end marijuana prohibition.

This is an exploration of California’s cannabis culture. It’s the story of the people fighting for it, the people fighting against it, the people selling it, the people making it less taboo, and the people who were around when the whole scene started.

Amanda van West made this documentary for my final MA International Broadcast Journalism dissertation project at the University of Westminster.

Everything was filmed around northern California from May-June 2010.

Source & video

burghclash · Post by **burghclash** » Tue 20th Jul 2010 09:49 am

Oakland has also about to allow four cannabis factories!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... ed-oakland

USbongLord · Post by **USbongLord** » Tue 20th Jul 2010 10:13 am

yawn...shit weed for the masses....welcome to the machine

Mindraker · Post by **Mindraker** » Tue 20th Jul 2010 02:35 pm

USBONGLORD wrote:yawn...shit weed for the masses....welcome to the machine

I don´t understand this one 100%. Masses already get shit weed in form of soap bar and whatever the mob decides to sell them. I just see this a good development that now the masses atleast can get purish shit weed from legal places. Should be good for not being offered amphetamine every time you shop for weed (happens a lot in finland). And that shit is fucked up. Makes people less likely to try hard drugs.

Imo quality matters are secondary, cause if weed gets legalized in any way, the ones who want better quality will have easie time to grow it and those who want to smoke every other friday a J or two can get it easily without being muxed up in organized crime. So that ranting about shit weed and why it shouldnt happen is kinda silly.

USbongLord · Post by **USbongLord** » Tue 20th Jul 2010 09:32 pm

far from ranting..just my opinion.. but the pie in the sky theory doesnt hurt either..and i smoke silly..nada prob

sh@dy · Post by **sh@dy** » Wed 21st Jul 2010 06:55 am

USBONGLORD wrote:far from ranting..just my opinion.. but the pie in the sky theory doesnt hurt either..and i smoke silly..nada prob

tell me USBL, how are you involved in the busines? because I cant see no other reason than money for this opinion of yours. how can you say "let it be illegal because of the quality" when there are thousands of people everyday losing their driver-license, their job or whatever, just because they use cannabis....I cant believe you made this 180° turn

bleak · Post by **bleak** » Wed 21st Jul 2010 11:26 am

USBONGLORD wrote:yawn...shit weed for the masses....welcome to the machine

I've been sold weed that was wet, still cold from the freezer, and it smelled exactly like old lawn clippings. I have NO idea whatsoever about the grow conditions, hygene, additives, flushing etc. I hardly dare to think about it. Worst part was, it was damn expensive. I accepted it because I had no other source at the time, and had been already searching high and low for weeks upon weeks. It did get me high, but damn....

Please tell me how mass produced weed could be any worse than that?

Not calling you out, just continuing the discussion....

USbongLord · Post by **USbongLord** » Wed 21st Jul 2010 12:23 pm

sh@dy wrote:
USBONGLORD wrote:far from ranting..just my opinion.. but the pie in the sky theory doesnt hurt either..and i smoke silly..nada prob
tell me USBL, how are you involved in the busines? because I cant see no other reason than money for this opinion of yours. how can you say "let it be illegal because of the quality" when there are thousands of people everyday losing their driver-license, their job or whatever, just because they use cannabis....I cant believe you made this 180° turn

what turn....?....ya know kids..the mom and pop stores went out of business because of walmart..and ya know what its like to find good moonshine?...thats all im gonna say...how much government ya want in your smoke....take it how ya want...they cant run a war right,or anything really....but pile on if ya want kids..till ya walk in my shoes...you CANT understand...ill stay away from the politics from now on cause im not mentally prepared or able to argue...smoke my weed,

smile,

then shut the fuck up

Uncle Ron · Post by **Uncle Ron** » Wed 21st Jul 2010 12:26 pm

This is the second thread on this subject. Same arguments.

USBL, what do you mean by "yawn...shit weed for the masses....welcome to the machine"?

Thanks.

edit... you posted a reply to someone which answers my question, sort of.
What makes you think that this time around the capitalists won't get it right?

Mindraker · Post by **Mindraker** » Wed 21st Jul 2010 12:49 pm

as a "activist", I would say any other situation is better than prohibition. Does it matter if government sells you shit, if it's legal. Grow your own without having so much to worry and fear about.

As for myself, I have a kid and would never smoke in Finland, the price for getting caught would be just too damn much. That's why I would welcome legalization or de criminalization in any form.

StonerKlaus · Post by **StonerKlaus** » Fri 30th Jul 2010 02:01 pm

I totally understand both sides' point. Yes, legalization is better than what we have now, but I'd hate to see it go the way of tobacco and distilled alcohol (legal to grow and sell, but only by huge corporations that pay massive bribes to the government for the right.) You can't grow your own tobacco or distill your own whisky, and the penalties are worse than even federal cannabis possession penalties if you get busted.

I see the slippery slope of over-corporatization that USBL is talking about.

StonedSince67 · Post by **StonedSince67** » Fri 30th Jul 2010 03:18 pm

i just want the right to plant a seed of my own ... that would be freedom

Uncle Ron · Post by **Uncle Ron** » Fri 30th Jul 2010 09:19 pm

StonedSince'67 wrote:i just want the right to plant a seed of my own ... that would be freedom

Nice one SS67, you said it best.

I have always hoped that some day I would be able to legally grow my own weed. I used to speculate on how the legalization would come about, but I never thought that MMJ would be the catalyst. Let's hope for the best and plan for the worst.

Now that California is on the cusp of legalizing cannabis, observe the real estate market, specifically land suitable for agricultural purposes. Once the measure passes into law, watch the madness kick into overdrive. Anyone who has the financial resources to make a capital investment in real estate could see an ungodly return on initial investment, if they act now. Anyone have a few million they are willing to gamble, er, loan me, for a reasonable return on investment of course?

LadyJane · Post by **LadyJane** » Sun 19th Sep 2010 02:07 am

StonerKlaus wrote:I totally understand both sides' point. Yes, legalization is better than what we have now, but I'd hate to see it go the way of tobacco and distilled alcohol (legal to grow and sell, but only by huge corporations that pay massive bribes to the government for the right.) You can't grow your own tobacco or distill your own whisky, and the penalties are worse than even federal cannabis possession penalties if you get busted.

I see the slippery slope of over-corporatization that USBL is talking about.

I didn't know it was illegal to grow your own Tobacco. Really?

Uncle Ron · Post by **Uncle Ron** » Sun 19th Sep 2010 11:10 am

LadyJane wrote:I didn't know it was illegal to grow your own Tobacco. Really?

In the US, it isn't illegal. If one wants to grow tobacco for commercial purposes, there is a process. Because there is a process, some confuse it with being illegal, which it's not.

The following has been taken from http://www.ttb.gov/tobacco/faq_answers.shtml
(Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau, US Dept. of Tressury)

"T16: If I grow tobacco, do I need a license or permit from the TTB?

'TTB does not license, or require a permit for growing tobacco. In addition, TTB does not regulate the sale of tobaccos that are not tobacco products. The U.S. Department of Agriculture may regulate the growing and sale of such tobacco. You may find additional information from the U.S. Farm Service Agency.'

Note: Concerning tobacco, the USDA FSA is mainly concerned with land use, chemicals, and the such, primarily intended for commercial purposes.
The final word on growing tobacco for personal use - plant the seed and enjoy. For commercial purposes, as with any product intended for sale, one must go through the bureaucracy, read tax forms.

Just too easy.