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Posted: Wed 11th Aug 2010 11:16 pm
by Kingdoc
Take about a grand,You have never got enough money 8).

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 02:01 am
by xXEXCALABERXx
CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote:
Boner wrote:Not strictly true, price comes down to yield/flowering time most the time, a lot of the higher priced weeds are either smaller producing or longer flowering, the cheaper older named strains (WW, Jack and so on) have been around for ages so the growers have the grow locked down to produce as much as possible.
furry muff, that makes sense too.
Na not when a half decent grower can yield 1g a watt so a set up with say 4 1000w lights should produce 4kg aprox so at an average of 11e a g thats 44k no way you can justify differences in prices by longer flowering times admitedley some may not achieve that figure but it costs 10 - 13e to grow an ounce say it sells at 11e a g so between grower n end user theres 290e being made on an ounce all aproximations but ....... shows the kind of money bei made over there in cs's

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 02:12 am
by Ash333
Kingdoc wrote:Take about a grand,You have never got enough money 8).
Yup.

Don't forget to budget for bike hire.

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 07:34 am
by Panog
xXEXCALABERXx wrote:
CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote:
Boner wrote:Not strictly true, price comes down to yield/flowering time most the time, a lot of the higher priced weeds are either smaller producing or longer flowering, the cheaper older named strains (WW, Jack and so on) have been around for ages so the growers have the grow locked down to produce as much as possible.
furry muff, that makes sense too.
Na not when a half decent grower can yield 1g a watt so a set up with say 4 1000w lights should produce 4kg aprox so at an average of 11e a g thats 44k no way you can justify differences in prices by longer flowering times admitedley some may not achieve that figure but it costs 10 - 13e to grow an ounce say it sells at 11e a g so between grower n end user theres 290e being made on an ounce all aproximations but ....... shows the kind of money bei made over there in cs's
Don't forget that when CS buy the weed, they have to sell it twice the price they bought it to pay the tax

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 08:27 am
by aelag
Best way to make sure money lasts is to set a budget per day (total amount of money available divided by days works well. Who would've thought eh?) and more importantly, be disciplined enough to stick to it. That way, if on a particular day you manage to be under budget by say 10 euros, you have that little extra the next day. It works for me, as it avoids the tendency of living like a king in the first couple of days and a pauper in the last ones. You live decently through it all.

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 09:41 am
by Boner
xXEXCALABERXx wrote:
CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote:
Boner wrote:Not strictly true, price comes down to yield/flowering time most the time, a lot of the higher priced weeds are either smaller producing or longer flowering, the cheaper older named strains (WW, Jack and so on) have been around for ages so the growers have the grow locked down to produce as much as possible.
furry muff, that makes sense too.
Na not when a half decent grower can yield 1g a watt so a set up with say 4 1000w lights should produce 4kg aprox so at an average of 11e a g thats 44k no way you can justify differences in prices by longer flowering times admitedley some may not achieve that figure but it costs 10 - 13e to grow an ounce say it sells at 11e a g so between grower n end user theres 290e being made on an ounce all aproximations but ....... shows the kind of money bei made over there in cs's
Some of the 'names' like say OG Kush are known to be very low yielders which is why they charge a premium, it's irrelevant how big the lights are or how good the grower is, not all plants will yield 1 gram per watt, I've been told that the coffeeshops sell the weed on for double what they pay.

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 11:36 am
by ftcarer
Boner wrote:
xXEXCALABERXx wrote:
CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote: furry muff, that makes sense too.
Na not when a half decent grower can yield 1g a watt so a set up with say 4 1000w lights should produce 4kg aprox so at an average of 11e a g thats 44k no way you can justify differences in prices by longer flowering times admitedley some may not achieve that figure but it costs 10 - 13e to grow an ounce say it sells at 11e a g so between grower n end user theres 290e being made on an ounce all aproximations but ....... shows the kind of money bei made over there in cs's
Some of the 'names' like say OG Kush are known to be very low yielders which is why they charge a premium, it's irrelevant how big the lights are or how good the grower is, not all plants will yield 1 gram per watt, I've been told that the coffeeshops sell the weed on for double what they pay.
I'm fairly sure that I read that it's 1 of the rules/regulations that all c/s HAVE to double the price of the weed/hash they buy, may have been on the Willie Wortels site

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 11:57 am
by Marco
Panog wrote:
xXEXCALABERXx wrote:
CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote: furry muff, that makes sense too.
Na not when a half decent grower can yield 1g a watt so a set up with say 4 1000w lights should produce 4kg aprox so at an average of 11e a g thats 44k no way you can justify differences in prices by longer flowering times admitedley some may not achieve that figure but it costs 10 - 13e to grow an ounce say it sells at 11e a g so between grower n end user theres 290e being made on an ounce all aproximations but ....... shows the kind of money bei made over there in cs's
Don't forget that when CS buy the weed, they have to sell it twice the price they bought it to pay the tax
Can you explain that further please?

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 12:08 pm
by Panog
I think I read that in this forum, ftcarer is saying the same as me, maybe he knows more

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 05:20 pm
by Twichaldinho
Marco wrote: ...Can you explain that further please?
I'll give it a try :D

If a coffeeshop is buying herb, wholesale, for say €3 or 4 a gram, then the they have to pay a 100% sales tax on it, meaning the cheapest they can sell it for, is €6 or 8 a gram. It was discussed a while ago, but I cannot be arsed useing the search Luke :wink:

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 06:02 pm
by StonedSince67
Twichaldinho wrote:
Marco wrote: ...Can you explain that further please?
I'll give it a try :D

If a coffeeshop is buying herb, wholesale, for say €3 or 4 a gram, then the they have to pay a 100% sales tax on it, meaning the cheapest they can sell it for, is €6 or 8 a gram. It was discussed a while ago, but I cannot be arsed useing the search Luke :wink:
maybe this message ?

Twichaldinho message Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:04 pm
which is in the forum Coffeeshops and Cannabis for the topic Dr. Grinspoon Sativa - Barneys Farm

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 06:08 pm
by Boner
StonedSince'67 wrote:
Twichaldinho wrote:
Marco wrote: ...Can you explain that further please?
I'll give it a try :D

If a coffeeshop is buying herb, wholesale, for say €3 or 4 a gram, then the they have to pay a 100% sales tax on it, meaning the cheapest they can sell it for, is €6 or 8 a gram. It was discussed a while ago, but I cannot be arsed useing the search Luke :wink:
maybe this message ?

Twichaldinho message Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:04 pm
which is in the forum Coffeeshops and Cannabis for the topic Dr. Grinspoon Sativa - Barneys Farm
How the bloody hell did you find that?



If you scroll down a little bit theres a link to a post by Nol on there as well explaining it, straight from the horses mouth.

Posted: Thu 12th Aug 2010 07:49 pm
by ftcarer
Cheers gents , knew where i'd seen it had something to do with Nol/Willie Wortels :)

Posted: Sat 14th Aug 2010 02:38 pm
by yogibear
I'm definitely low budget. I camp or hostel at Stayokay the best hostel is Vondelpark good breakfast and lunch if you are sneaky. The Stayokay Stadsdoelen is in a great location but old and only a continental breakfast. I'm usually in town for Q-Day and they all jack-up the prices. I usually find that 100 Euro a day does the job and I am a heavy smoker. The 5 gram deals are what I buy blueberry, white widow and any other deal that looks tasty. If I take 150 Euro I always have money left over.

Posted: Sun 15th Aug 2010 03:19 am
by weedhog
xXEXCALABERXx wrote:
CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote:
Boner wrote:Not strictly true, price comes down to yield/flowering time most the time, a lot of the higher priced weeds are either smaller producing or longer flowering, the cheaper older named strains (WW, Jack and so on) have been around for ages so the growers have the grow locked down to produce as much as possible.
furry muff, that makes sense too.
Na not when a half decent grower can yield 1g a watt so a set up with say 4 1000w lights should produce 4kg aprox so at an average of 11e a g thats 44k no way you can justify differences in prices by longer flowering times admitedley some may not achieve that figure but it costs 10 - 13e to grow an ounce say it sells at 11e a g so between grower n end user theres 290e being made on an ounce all aproximations but ....... shows the kind of money bei made over there in cs's
Haha...From my experience most growers do NOT achieve 1 gram per watt. Very few experienced growers will achieve this or better.