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First sighting, suspect not the last. Smells like Jamaican High Grade, looks like Jamaican High Grade, has dark brown seeds like JA HG, BUT its not so compressed AND smokes like an indoor strain and is sold as a hybrid jamaican-grown new style strain...the buzz is completely different to usual, not a sleeper/creeper like normal JA outdoor weed, but immediate and strong like a good indoor. Costs (im told ) 200/oz, and is no doubt the future. Makes sense really, why grow traditional strains outdoors that harvest once a year when you can get three or four harvets a year outdoors using new wonder seeds! Trouble is I can see that within a short period of time there will be no 100% original pure strains left in jamaica, which worries me greatly. I hope some serious growers/boffins somewhere are stashing mother plants of the original outdoor JA strains away, they will be gold dust in a few years time genetically speaking. A finer outdoor weed does not exist IMHO so I really hope someones got this one under control..Also its ripped my lungs apart, just like the outdoor grown skunk that started appearing from Spain in the early 90's, that was very lung abrasive too for some reason..

anyone else seen this new thing yet??

templeball wrote:First sighting, suspect not the last. Smells like Jamaican High Grade, looks like Jamaican High Grade, has dark brown seeds like JA HG, BUT its not so compressed AND smokes like an indoor strain and is sold as a hybrid jamaican-grown new style strain...the buzz is completely different to usual, not a sleeper/creeper like normal JA outdoor weed, but immediate and strong like a good indoor. Costs (im told ) 200/oz, and is no doubt the future. Makes sense really, why grow traditional strains outdoors that harvest once a year when you can get three or four harvets a year outdoors using new wonder seeds! Trouble is I can see that within a short period of time there will be no 100% original pure strains left in jamaica, which worries me greatly. I hope some serious growers/boffins somewhere are stashing mother plants of the original outdoor JA strains away, they will be gold dust in a few years time genetically speaking. A finer outdoor weed does not exist IMHO so I really hope someones got this one under control..Also its ripped my lungs apart, just like the outdoor grown skunk that started appearing from Spain in the early 90's, that was very lung abrasive too for some reason..

anyone else seen this new thing yet??

I'm not sure if its the same thing, but in 2007 in south london there was loads of stuff going around which I understood to be a hybrid of a jamaican 'cess/high grade' and a skunk no1, or something similar. Could this be the same thing? I remember it gettting me absouletely mashed...

Easy templeball, got a half of high grade last week, was originally 90 but paid 95 for the half. Might not be the same as what you're talking about though mate for a few reasons.

The stuff I have got (and have been offered again) resembles classic high grade import, looks like brick weed to tell the truth until you examine it. Black almost, very sticky and not for the grinder, best picked apart by hand or with scissors. The mrs said it smelled like chocolate to her, but we both agreed it was nothing like Chocolate Thai. A few seeds, dark black and the odd dry yellow one, but hardly any.

Smokes beautifully, as strong as most 'skunk' but with a classic weed taste, quite sweet and it burns slow like sticky high grade should. Not harsh whatsoever, very smooth on the throat unlike some of the indoor stuff floating about. Bashes your head up, but not couchlock material so must be a sativa.

bigs mate, last month I got a shout about some 'cess/po' as it's known from a mate in Brixton/Herne Hill. It looks a lot like a hybrid of skunk and normal weed, no seeds at all in it. Unfortunately it all went but I got to smoke a j or 2 and it was pretty good, a definite indica, tasted a bit like Afghan weed - hashy!

DeathRowRecords wrote:Easy templeball, got a half of high grade last week, was originally 90 but paid 95 for the half. Might not be the same as what you're talking about though mate for a few reasons.

The stuff I have got (and have been offered again) resembles classic high grade import, looks like brick weed to tell the truth until you examine it. Black almost, very sticky and not for the grinder, best picked apart by hand or with scissors. The mrs said it smelled like chocolate to her, but we both agreed it was nothing like Chocolate Thai. A few seeds, dark black and the odd dry yellow one, but hardly any.

Smokes beautifully, as strong as most 'skunk' but with a classic weed taste, quite sweet and it burns slow like sticky high grade should. Not harsh whatsoever, very smooth on the throat unlike some of the indoor stuff floating about. Bashes your head up, but not couchlock material so must be a sativa.

bigs mate, last month I got a shout about some 'cess/po' as it's known from a mate in Brixton/Herne Hill. It looks a lot like a hybrid of skunk and normal weed, no seeds at all in it. Unfortunately it all went but I got to smoke a j or 2 and it was pretty good, a definite indica, tasted a bit like Afghan weed - hashy!

lol small world, yep thats the stuff, from the same area aswell havent seen it in 3 years myself though...

Sounds like the recent bit of Outdoor thats knocking around. I hope its not that your payin £200/oz for. Can get about 3 ozs for that price.

Seeds put me off

Thanks all of you for pitching in so far on this debate of genetic world importance!! Lets hope the nepalese dont start buggering about with cross starins, the worlds best hash source would never be the same...

Got Pictures now to illustrate the conversation/debate



the normal brick pressed Jamaican high grade we see regularly, this particular piece is 3.8g and cost im told 220/oz


ABOVE - the same piece of high grade underneath the new strain stuff....pretty bloody similar to look at Im sure you will all agree, in fact near identical, except it smokes completely differently with old skool vs new skool buzz (i.e. slow strong creeper vs immediate strong), smells the same, and is lovely and sticky


I should mention also that we have a friend in Jamaica at the moment (he is a British born jamaican) and he is reporting seeing no end of this new strain type there, apparently he is finding it very hard to even see any sensi or cess as you young tearaways label it, its all this new strain where he is staying..

But, its not brick compressed, so how is it getting in? And i dont think you can easily cure an indoor variety to end smelling and looking like exactly like high grade, why bother when normal indoor sells for more and what about the seeds as well..anyhow, I would be in absolute heaven and not doing anything except rejoicing if it wasnt for the fact that it does my lungs in after a day or two, like those outdoor skunk strains used to do to me years ago....


Hope you all like the pics though and that you can all see for yourself what we are discussing...

£200/oz with seeds or £200-£220 of Stella Blue (seedless)...

Prestoned wrote:£200/oz with seeds or £200-£220 of Stella Blue (seedless)...

i think you would be suprised at the strength of real import cess, very sativa dominant also so a bit of a different buzz

nice pics templeball ,,,,would,nt mind trying some of that

bigs wrote:

Prestoned wrote:£200/oz with seeds or £200-£220 of Stella Blue (seedless)...

i think you would be suprised at the strength of real import cess, very sativa dominant also so a bit of a different buzz

Id second that, there is a reason the rastas have always said dont mix sensi with alcohol (apart from it being a waste of a superb high )

Oh and hi to Prestoned, this stuff in my pics is a world apart from the brick compressed African (swaziland) stuff that looks similar that does the rounds for approx 60/oz, thats what you may be referring too? The smell and buzz are not the same at all.

Here's a snap off stuff I picked up In montego bay

I'm on vacation in Mexico and scored some high-grade outdoor. Dark, sticky, some large dark seeds, very much like those pics. Not a whole lot of smell, but packs a punch! I was surprised to say the least - was disappointed when I first looked at it, now I'm looking at a pile of seeds I want to take home with me...but I'm not willing to risk it...will plant them around the resort, hopefully they will grow!

I bet this would be some real killer stuff if grown indoors and taken proper care of...

ZBeebs wrote:some large dark seeds

I'm having flashbacks from high school. I wonder how it would feel to smoke some Mexican brick bud after all these years of smoking good.

Stanky Danky wrote:

ZBeebs wrote:some large dark seeds

I'm having flashbacks from high school. I wonder how it would feel to smoke some Mexican brick bud after all these years of smoking good.

I would not compare what I bought and "mexican brickweed"...this is much better, not compressed, and so sticky and full of resin.