Me too which is why I considered moving to ROI.Mark_d wrote:and i would love it if some bars were cigarette free!
1 Jan 2007 - what changes?
went to a gig recently at a venue that is now totally no smoking and it was great! its amazing how big the difference is! you can see the stage :O you dont come home stinking of fags, and is impossible for people to have a sneaky fag inside cos you can see the smoke from a mile off and security stop them!
if people wanna have a fag then go outside!!!!
if people wanna have a fag then go outside!!!!
The smoking ban will happen one day. Already on in Scotland and has been for almost three months now. I am a smoker and I actually like the idea of the ban. Clean air in the pubs and at least it means you have to get up off your ass once in a while (which is always a good idea when drinking) to go outside for your ciggy.
The vast majority of pubs don't allow you to take your glass or bottle outside while you "enjoy" your fag. (one or two have beer gardens where it isn't a problem).
All in all, you meet a whole bunch of new, sometimes interesting characters to whom you wouldn't usually give a second look.
The vast majority of pubs don't allow you to take your glass or bottle outside while you "enjoy" your fag. (one or two have beer gardens where it isn't a problem).
All in all, you meet a whole bunch of new, sometimes interesting characters to whom you wouldn't usually give a second look.
We'll see how much of a good thing you chaps think it was when it eventually closes coffeeshops. There is no some without the other, it's all or none.....and the separation of licenses is part of the process. It sucks in all it's shapes and forms. After this comes the smoking in the work place law which, if it gets a hold (and I don't see why it wont when smokers are complaining about smoke) it will atleast mean you'll go home from the Dam smelling fresh, but that's about it.....cos ya wont be stoned!!.....and if ya can't handle weed and alcohol together, then don't fuking do them together.....it really is as simple as that!.
If the whole of the EU take on that law, which is lookin that way, then they'll all pressure Holland to do the same. Enforcing that Law here will kill coffeeshops dead. The whole splitting of the licenses is already the submitting to pressure from surrounding countries to tone things down a bit. With the backing of the whole EU and Brussels, Holland just might not be able to stand up to it.
I can understand both points of view here:
You have the "Normal" weed smoker being those that smoke the weed mixed with tobbaco in a joint.
Then you have the "Heavy" or "Profesional" smoker that only smokes pure so not to have the weed tainted or spoiled by the tobbaco.
I myself now only smoke pure I would politely refuse a joint offered to me if it were anything other that pure. I simply cant handle the light-headiness feeling from the tobbaco. I also only now smoke in a pipe or bong to really appreciate the flavour and tatse of the weed. Call me big headed but by the scale that I grade myself on would now mean that I'de be a conisoiur smoker
only by how my smoking of weed has developed to the level that I now find myself.
This is neither a boast nor dissagreement with either point.
I except that due to the "Normal" consumption of weed as I've always known it has been "with tobbaco" so I would be OK with sharing a CS with tobbaco/weed smoking smokesrs. BUT, I would also like to enjoy my smoke in a weed only bar, this because I have recently drank and then toked (afte feeling the effect of the booze) I was quite tipsy and when the weed kicked in the High was enormous
which really seemed laime compared to the absolute mind destroying - no thoughts seem to make any sense kinda fukt that followd was wonderful.
I'll drink and smoke again... soon
I hope that all made sense because After working damned hard decorating my bathroom I "decided" to have a toke only 6 days into my month off
... my choice and what a fucking good choice because all I can desipher from any of this is that : no thoughts seemed to make any sense and it's been over an hour since I toked a nice iced bong full of iced bud... this absolute mind destroying kinda fukt mellow is wonderful.... I now know what I have missed for the past week 
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You have the "Normal" weed smoker being those that smoke the weed mixed with tobbaco in a joint.
Then you have the "Heavy" or "Profesional" smoker that only smokes pure so not to have the weed tainted or spoiled by the tobbaco.
I myself now only smoke pure I would politely refuse a joint offered to me if it were anything other that pure. I simply cant handle the light-headiness feeling from the tobbaco. I also only now smoke in a pipe or bong to really appreciate the flavour and tatse of the weed. Call me big headed but by the scale that I grade myself on would now mean that I'de be a conisoiur smoker
only by how my smoking of weed has developed to the level that I now find myself.This is neither a boast nor dissagreement with either point.
I except that due to the "Normal" consumption of weed as I've always known it has been "with tobbaco" so I would be OK with sharing a CS with tobbaco/weed smoking smokesrs. BUT, I would also like to enjoy my smoke in a weed only bar, this because I have recently drank and then toked (afte feeling the effect of the booze) I was quite tipsy and when the weed kicked in the High was enormous
which really seemed laime compared to the absolute mind destroying - no thoughts seem to make any sense kinda fukt that followd was wonderful.I'll drink and smoke again... soon
I hope that all made sense because After working damned hard decorating my bathroom I "decided" to have a toke only 6 days into my month off
... my choice and what a fucking good choice because all I can desipher from any of this is that : no thoughts seemed to make any sense and it's been over an hour since I toked a nice iced bong full of iced bud... this absolute mind destroying kinda fukt mellow is wonderful.... I now know what I have missed for the past week ** Edited 17 times **"I laughed so hard I nearly had a whitey"
Carla 4/21/2009
Carla 4/21/2009
That's all based on the luxury of choice mate, splitting coffeeshop/bars is a removal of 1 choice...to buy alcohol where you buy your weed. Now apply the normal 'No smoking in the workplace' law to whatever comes after that and yer left with no choice at all....cept, mines a pint!.
'The legal consumption of weed in a public place' will become impossible even if weed was to be legalized itself and the coffeeshops will be first to go as collateral damage ...weed walk to woks?...buy and go ....a guestimate...hmmm....a decade, tops!.
'The legal consumption of weed in a public place' will become impossible even if weed was to be legalized itself and the coffeeshops will be first to go as collateral damage ...weed walk to woks?...buy and go ....a guestimate...hmmm....a decade, tops!.
There is an invention called an air wall, which stops smoke getting past it.
However staff would have to pass through the airwall to collect glasses, clean etc.
It's the smoking in the workplace thing that will kill it.......
Just one thought..... is the ban against smoking tobaco or all smoking?
We'd just have to all start smoking pure!
Space products to would still be readily available.
How does this affect vapourisers? (No Smoke)
The inventive Dutch will continue to come up with more ways for us to enjoy our drugs I'm sure of it.
However staff would have to pass through the airwall to collect glasses, clean etc.
It's the smoking in the workplace thing that will kill it.......
Just one thought..... is the ban against smoking tobaco or all smoking?
We'd just have to all start smoking pure!
Space products to would still be readily available.
How does this affect vapourisers? (No Smoke)
The inventive Dutch will continue to come up with more ways for us to enjoy our drugs I'm sure of it.
When the going gets weird, the weird get going!
There are plenty of pubs where I live where extractor fans have been put in long before the ban was announced, and there's also the chain pubs (JD Wetherspoons etc.) who had separate smoking areas.
The ban was still enforced and all the arguments about air conditioning will be thrown out by the Dutch goverrnment just as they were by the British goverrnment.
"This is the end, beautiful friend."
The ban was still enforced and all the arguments about air conditioning will be thrown out by the Dutch goverrnment just as they were by the British goverrnment.
"This is the end, beautiful friend."
The points about smoking pure weed/using vaporisers I suppose are valid enough but I think the ban will end up being outright and total and the humble vaporiser won't be enough to save it.
Can you imagine a shop full of people waiting to use a vaporiser?
There is far too much of an outcry at the moment to have the coffeeshops closed, simply because that type of business isn't legal anywhere else in Europe (or the world)
Shops will become more grab and go orientated when the separation laws come in and then, like DC said, it's the beginning of the end.
We all feel bad as tourists that it is happening, but what about the people who make a living from these places, or indeed the Dutch people themselves.
Can you imagine a shop full of people waiting to use a vaporiser?
There is far too much of an outcry at the moment to have the coffeeshops closed, simply because that type of business isn't legal anywhere else in Europe (or the world)
Shops will become more grab and go orientated when the separation laws come in and then, like DC said, it's the beginning of the end.
We all feel bad as tourists that it is happening, but what about the people who make a living from these places, or indeed the Dutch people themselves.