Cannabis Cafe's to become members only clubs?

[USbongLord]

ill just vacaton somewhere else then...no big deal...i feel bad for the cs owners and the weed tourists...we are going forward and they are going backward...wow...

[HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe]

I reallt can't see this happening like lingdoc says they have bigger problems than pushing yet another drug underground.

are you stoned reallt and who is lingdoc sorry couldn't resist. I'm just about to say high to my bong and can therefore still type

I'm blaming the good hash my contact has been able to get this past fortnight. Good hash in N. Ireland I hear you say? I know its rare round here, nice hash that half melts when you put a lighter to it, proper smell an all, not like the shitty soap that is prevailent overhere.

[Dave J]

Edit: According to wikipedia (I know) Amsterdam has 4.63 million tourists a year, I highly doubt a million of those are purely weed tourists.

But what if the deciding factor in 1 million going to Amsterdam being the weed and no weed being the reason there might be 1 million less visitors a year?. I'd not class myself as a weed tourist but it is certainly the deciding factor that has me go there trip after trip.

No weed and I'd possably never go again as after 6 trips to date I've already seen a lot of the tourist areas.

[Boner]

Edit: According to wikipedia (I know) Amsterdam has 4.63 million tourists a year, I highly doubt a million of those are purely weed tourists.

But what if the deciding factor in 1 million going to Amsterdam being the weed and no weed being the reason there might be 1 million less visitors a year?. I'd not class myself as a weed tourist but it is certainly the deciding factor that has me go there trip after trip.

No weed and I'd possably never go again as after 6 trips to date I've already seen a lot of the tourist areas.

If weed is the deciding factor (like it is for probably 99% of this forum) for you visiting Amsterdam/The Netherlands that makes you a weed tourist as far as I'm concerned, I doubt even 10% of the 4.63 million are weed tourists.

[Dave J]

Ah possably then. It's all to easy to forget that a fair percentage of tourists going to Amsterdam are the opposite and they only try the weed simply because it's available and not the reason they go.

[Boner]

Ah possably then. It's all to easy to forget that a fair percentage of tourists going to Amsterdam are the opposite and they only try the weed simply because it's available and not the reason they go.

The odd person trying a pre-roll or buying a gram of 'thai' aren't going to make any significent differance to the sales figures.

[Kingdoc]

Edit: According to wikipedia (I know) Amsterdam has 4.63 million tourists a year, I highly doubt a million of those are purely weed tourists.

But what if the deciding factor in 1 million going to Amsterdam being the weed and no weed being the reason there might be 1 million less visitors a year?. I'd not class myself as a weed tourist but it is certainly the deciding factor that has me go there trip after trip.

No weed and I'd possably never go again as after 6 trips to date I've already seen a lot of the tourist areas.

If it did happen i wouldnt go as much,The south of spain during the winter enjoying the sun & smoking some fresh/cheap polm or pounding the streets of amsterdam on a wet/cold november week with f-all & being made to feel unwelcome? hmm let me see,This junkie would just roll on like hes done all his life .

[Kingdoc]

Ah possably then. It's all to easy to forget that a fair percentage of tourists going to Amsterdam are the opposite and they only try the weed simply because it's available and not the reason they go.

The odd person trying a pre-roll or buying a gram of 'thai' aren't going to make any significent differance to the sales figures.

Most buy more than the odd gram boner in all respects mate! we save up long & hard to go there & spend good money,Try 1300 euros worth! & if there were say a few million guys like me that adds up,For them! as it will have to be found somewhere else! ie yet more rises,I wish edinburgh had the numbers of visitors a-dam gets & that they would all stay for like 10 days @ at time blowing thousands the process,We would never have to pay council tax or anything like that again here,& No i just dont go to amterdam for the dope in case anyone asks! i went in the 1st place as i had never been overseas before,Not for whores or mushrooms! sorry to break this to people but you can buy grass & good hash here,All this crap that guys like me travel over like 5 countires to smoke dope is laughable! we even have whores to .

[Boner]

Ah possably then. It's all to easy to forget that a fair percentage of tourists going to Amsterdam are the opposite and they only try the weed simply because it's available and not the reason they go.

The odd person trying a pre-roll or buying a gram of 'thai' aren't going to make any significent differance to the sales figures.

Most buy more than the odd gram boner in all respects mate! we save up long & hard to go there & spend good money,Try 1300 euros worth! & if there were say a few million guys like me that adds up,For them! as it will have to be found somewhere else! ie yet more rises,I wish edinburgh had the numbers of visitors a-dam gets & that they would all stay for like 10 days @ at time blowing thousands the process,We would never have to pay council tax or anything like that again here,& No i just dont go to amterdam for the dope in case anyone asks! i went in the 1st place as i had never been overseas before,Not for whores or mushrooms! sorry to break this to people but you can buy grass & good hash here,All this crap that guys like me travel over like 5 countires to smoke dope is laughable! we even have whores to .

Try reading instead of just jumping in first, I'm on about the people who go for the culture, city life and museums and not the weed tourists like you & me.

A few million people eh? again try reading things through first, I've already said that according to wiki Amsterdam gets 4.63 million tourists a year and I'd be very surpirsed if even 10% of those are there for the weed.

People really need to stop and think about things, Amsterdam doesn't rely on the weed tourist money and from what I've seen and whats already happened (the RLD windows becoming boutiques) the city is trying to clean up its image and become cosmopolitan.

I'm sad to say it but I'm also a realist I honestly believe the cannabis culture we all know and love is going to change dramatically over the next 12 months.

Edit: We're all weed tourists on here no matter what you say or think, the fact remains that a large propotion of people wouldn't go back to Amsterdam if the weed wasn't freely available like it is now.

[Kingdoc]

The odd person trying a pre-roll or buying a gram of 'thai' aren't going to make any significent differance to the sales figures.

Most buy more than the odd gram boner in all respects mate! we save up long & hard to go there & spend good money,Try 1300 euros worth! & if there were say a few million guys like me that adds up,For them! as it will have to be found somewhere else! ie yet more rises,I wish edinburgh had the numbers of visitors a-dam gets & that they would all stay for like 10 days @ at time blowing thousands the process,We would never have to pay council tax or anything like that again here,& No i just dont go to amterdam for the dope in case anyone asks! i went in the 1st place as i had never been overseas before,Not for whores or mushrooms! sorry to break this to people but you can buy grass & good hash here,All this crap that guys like me travel over like 5 countires to smoke dope is laughable! we even have whores to .

Try reading instead of just jumping in first, I'm on about the people who go for the culture, city life and museums and not the weed tourists like you & me.

A few million people eh? again try reading things through first, I've already said that according to wiki Amsterdam gets 4.63 million tourists a year and I'd be very surpirsed if even 10% of those are there for the weed.

People really need to stop and think about things, Amsterdam doesn't rely on the weed tourist money and from what I've seen and whats already happened (the RLD windows becoming boutiques) the city is trying to clean up its image and become cosmopolitan.

I'm sad to say it but I'm also a realist I honestly believe the cannabis culture we all know and love is going to change dramatically over the next 12 months.

Edit: We're all weed tourists on here no matter what you say or think, the fact remains that a large propotion of people wouldn't go back to Amsterdam if the weed wasn't freely available like it is now.

I go for the walks/culture/architecture/museums/restuarants/a few bars & the odd train/tram ride along the way! the smoke is a huge bonus mind but not the be all & end all,Who wouldnt say its a bonus! you get some of the finest weed & hash the world has to offer on a silver plate at kinda affordable prices ,I dont even smoke dope all that much these days & these 70`s era arguments (drug tourist/only here for weed/woman) are tiresome now! not disrepects to amsterdam but even here is cheaper for smoke! £160 an oz of chronic,Dono about the women as i keep out of the sauna joints lol,If i were a heavy drug user & i had everything where i was right there why would i go elsewhere?,I like holidays! it keeps me off booze & smoking weed heavy here if i have to save up for a holiday,So when i think about it amsterdam has helped me by keeping my on the straght & refeshing me when i am over there to come back,But yea we are WEED/DRUG whatever users/tourists to them! my late friend told me that one day over there & its stuck in my mind! & he had been going since the early 80`s,Ps sorry if i got you wrong but something has to be done like! i dont want to see a hollandistan either but banning windows/squatters & just about eveything else seems OTT,Sqatters are as much of the faberic of amsterdam as coffeeshops are when you think about it,I mean fast track deportations (if they can get away with it) & banning whole swathes of people is not tolerance ,Looks like holand is going threw some troubled times & theres gona be a battle or some big changes on the way,Doc .

[Cisco]

Ah possably then. It's all to easy to forget that a fair percentage of tourists going to Amsterdam are the opposite and they only try the weed simply because it's available and not the reason they go.

The odd person trying a pre-roll or buying a gram of 'thai' aren't going to make any significent differance to the sales figures.

Most buy more than the odd gram boner in all respects mate! we save up long & hard to go there & spend good money,Try 1300 euros worth! & if there were say a few million guys like me that adds up,For them! as it will have to be found somewhere else! ie yet more rises,I wish edinburgh had the numbers of visitors a-dam gets & that they would all stay for like 10 days @ at time blowing thousands the process,We would never have to pay council tax or anything like that again here,& No i just dont go to amterdam for the dope in case anyone asks! i went in the 1st place as i had never been overseas before,Not for whores or mushrooms! sorry to break this to people but you can buy grass & good hash here,All this crap that guys like me travel over like 5 countires to smoke dope is laughable! we even have whores to .

No disrespect to you here KD but your on a rant there pal !! Edinburgh gets something silly like 13million visitors per year !! I really dont see how visitor cash would pay our council tax etc ? And how do you travel over 5 countries to get to Dam ? Do you know your geography ?

As i say not an insult to you or meant to offend just adding to the debate !

[Cisco]

MMM now im confused one site says 13mil another says 1million "overseas visitors" surely we cant get 12mil visits from other UK countries ?

[Kingdoc]

The odd person trying a pre-roll or buying a gram of 'thai' aren't going to make any significent differance to the sales figures.

Most buy more than the odd gram boner in all respects mate! we save up long & hard to go there & spend good money,Try 1300 euros worth! & if there were say a few million guys like me that adds up,For them! as it will have to be found somewhere else! ie yet more rises,I wish edinburgh had the numbers of visitors a-dam gets & that they would all stay for like 10 days @ at time blowing thousands the process,We would never have to pay council tax or anything like that again here,& No i just dont go to amterdam for the dope in case anyone asks! i went in the 1st place as i had never been overseas before,Not for whores or mushrooms! sorry to break this to people but you can buy grass & good hash here,All this crap that guys like me travel over like 5 countires to smoke dope is laughable! we even have whores to .

No disrespect to you here KD but your on a rant there pal !! Edinburgh gets something silly like 13million visitors per year !! I really dont see how visitor cash would pay our council tax etc ? And how do you travel over 5 countries to get to Dam ? Do you know your geography ?

As i say not an insult to you or meant to offend just adding to the debate !

The more money the city pulls in with visitors spending on stuff the better it is for everyone! ie hotels/bars & so on,& the council doesnt have to ask for more yet money from central govt if there short or worse still pass on the shortfall to people like me via rate rises,Ie less visitors the more we have to pay! thats why we have the festival & that mate,Most edinburgh people dont strike me as culture buffs so we put up with all the crouds & road closures as we know its bringing money into the city & that we shouldnt moan to much as its holding down the prices really,New years party/and all those firewords & everything else have to be paid for somehow,& Council tax/rent incomes here arnt enough to pay for everything mate! look at the schools & stuff there closing down lately,Ps most overseas people arnt dole scrouders & fraudsters! some work harder than most of our own croud so you cant lay all our problems at everyone elses door,Even if we are being conned via the benefits system well whos fault is that? us for giving it to them or them for taking it?,Ps cisco our biggest trading partners are the rest of the UK! & we do get tons of irish/welsh & even english people here all year round so i am sure out of the overseas visitors & the rest of the UK your figures shouldnt be far wrong,125.000 people watched the pope in 1 afternoon alone,Thats not including the festival/x-mas markets & new year! theres over a couple million just for edinburgh alone i should think,We may think tourists are a pain in the arse but there all making life easier for us at the end of the day,Edinburgh is not that big when you think of it! what 500.000 people & weve got a city centre like that,You dont see notingham & places like that punching above there weight like we have enjoyed! do you think all those old style taverns & top hotels are for the benefit of the down & outs on the street? i dont,Locals couldnt support a 1000 pubs in like 10 square miles mate! were known to like a drink but come on! ok then i hope you are more enlightened on the pro`s of economics/supply & demand + market forces,Doc.

[cantona7]

so is this definitely going to happen or is it just talk as of now?

[bleak]

Personally I doubt this will happen.

Hundreds if not thousands of people arrive in Amsterdam every single day with the sole reason of consuming cannabis. Changing the coffeeshop regulations won't stop them coming, and as long as theres a demand for weed, someone will provide it. Whether its a street dealer, or a local who charges 5 euros to walk into a coffeeshop and buy weed for visitors. Or a homeless person who does it for a cigarette.

But the first and most obvious outcome is that Amsterdam would be infested by street dealers trying to cater to those 1000's of people arriving every day. The police will be swamped trying to play cat and mouse with all these new dealers, and Amsterdam turns into a giant mess.

The authorities don't want street dealers and junkies taking over Amsterdam like it was in the 80's and 90's. They spent a lot of time and effort cleaning up the city and driving out the undesirables. This is why I doubt a 'locals only' policy will happen any time soon.