Cannabis Cafe's to become members only clubs?

Cisco · Post by **Cisco** » Tue 5th Oct 2010 09:57 pm

Of course people have profited but thats not what you were sayin ? or maybe i misread you ? Lol what im saying is our tax has nothing to do with tourism !! thats all lad you seem to think because these events go on it passes savings on to the tax payer !! utter BS and i will reply its my right to do so on a DISSCUSSION forum !! No tourism = the taxes we pay lots of tourism = the same taxes and that article you posted was about council tax going up to prevent services getting cut !! The money made from tattoo/festival/hogmany/book festival etc etc does not get past on to the taxpayer in keeping rates down etc !! LMFAO

if you wanna argue about something get your facts right , i think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one

Regards Cisco and this is nothing personal just debating

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Tue 5th Oct 2010 10:54 pm

Ps just for the record man it was the COUNCIL who owned the rights to the new year party from 1997 untill like 2 years ago! i know as i went to the 1st one (what was free btw),So called "private enterprise" was only encouraged later as the council made an a**e of it a couple of years running! ie a weather cancellation & poor ticket sales the year after that,Just notice how it was taken off the council right away as "potential" money was being lost by EVERYONE!

,Still think its all for fun? & agree to disagree-ish well yea its a forum at the end of the day man,KD.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 11:29 am

I was sent this via pm from a lurker, I'll leave the members name out unless they want to say something:

a few stats from http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/750-amster ... s-tourists - "A 2007 report by Amsterdam’s Department for Research and Statistics showed that of the 4.5 million tourists who spend the night in Amsterdam during a given year, 26% visit a coffeeshop. According to the Amsterdam Tourism & Convention Board, 10% of tourists even mention this as a primary reason to visit the city"............ if this is true & every tourist spends an average of say 125 euro a day(hotel\food\weed etc) = £119m pa for Amsterdam alone - & how many tokers travel alone - can we double the figure? http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/eu-c ... s-tourists - "Approximately 4,000 smokers enter Maastricht every day to stock up, with an estimated 70 percent coming in from abroad" - 2800 x say 50 euro = over 7m pa for a city - the annual income to Holland directly & indirectly must be staggering. Can they afford to give this up? I don't think so.

Quite interesting stats and such.

Dave J · Post by **Dave J** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 12:02 pm

So 10% of those survayed admit to the weed being a main reason for going to Ansterdam yet an estimated 26% of tourits go to the coffeeshops while there. So the correct figure is possably in between the both for weed tourists I'd guess?.

The accuracy possably does'nt help to much unless it's known how many were survayed and at what time of year seeing as the main summer months possably has a much higher ratio of tourists over weed tourists and thus a true figure might be unknown if they spent a day or 2 just in Dam Square asking people at random during the hight of the tourist season.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 12:32 pm

I would guess the higher percentage is down to people who are there for say a stag/hen party/sightseeing/culture vultures and may pop into a coffeeshop to try a pre-roll.

I think 10% being there primarily for the weed is about right.

Ash333 · Post by **Ash333** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 01:52 pm

Boner wrote:
I think 10% being there primarily for the weed is about right.

Based on what research?

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 01:54 pm

Ash333 wrote:
Boner wrote:
I think 10% being there primarily for the weed is about right.
Based on what research?

Firstly that was my original guesstimate secondly in the links I quoted above.

Iko · Post by **Iko** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 04:39 pm

15-20% smoking tourists ?
That sounds about realistic.
If i look at say the lobby of my hotel as a microcosm that fits pretty well.
I suppose if you looked at hostels and apartments the numbers could be squed alot higher in the smokers favour though.

schererbuzz · Post by **schererbuzz** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 05:40 pm

roker wrote:
Marco wrote:
Dave J wrote:Would the members only thing be per coffeeshop or would 1 membership cover all coffeeshops?.
No one has any idea.
No, YOU DON'T!!! how can you, of all people, cast aspersions about what anybody else knows? you are an archetypical 'know it all', however, you know jack shit!!!

I don't know Marco and I assume he doesn't need anybody speaking for him, which I'm not. But maybe you could PM Marco or start a thread to clear the air and we wouldn't have to read your antagonistic rebuttle to nearly every post Marco makes. You may feel better by not holding this most apparent grudge and be able to move on. It's really not healthy for you and you could redirect that energy towards something more productive.

You clearly have insight to life in Amsterdam, but when a majority of your posts is bashing Marco, it's makes it hard to even take your words seriously even though they may actually be right.

I'm not saying you may be wrong in your posts and I'm not saying Marco is always right, but dude, it's been really old for a long time now.

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 05:57 pm

schererbuzz wrote:
roker wrote:
Marco wrote: No one has any idea.
No, YOU DON'T!!! how can you, of all people, cast aspersions about what anybody else knows? you are an archetypical 'know it all', however, you know jack shit!!!

I don't know Marco and I assume he doesn't need anybody speaking for him, which I'm not. But maybe you could PM Marco or start a thread to clear the air and we wouldn't have to read your antagonistic rebuttle to nearly every post Marco makes. You may feel better by not holding this most apparent grudge and be able to move on. It's really not healthy for you and you could redirect that energy towards something more productive.

You clearly have insight to life in Amsterdam, but when a majority of your posts is bashing Marco, it's makes it hard to even take your words seriously even though they may actually be right.

I'm not saying you may be wrong in your posts and I'm not saying Marco is always right, but dude, it's been really old for a long time now.

Don't worry about it man, he is on my ignore list. I won't feed his ego anymore.

How is fall shaping up in the Appalachians? That is the one thing I miss about home.

schererbuzz · Post by **schererbuzz** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 06:10 pm

Marco wrote:
schererbuzz wrote:
roker wrote: No, YOU DON'T!!! how can you, of all people, cast aspersions about what anybody else knows? you are an archetypical 'know it all', however, you know jack shit!!!

I don't know Marco and I assume he doesn't need anybody speaking for him, which I'm not. But maybe you could PM Marco or start a thread to clear the air and we wouldn't have to read your antagonistic rebuttle to nearly every post Marco makes. You may feel better by not holding this most apparent grudge and be able to move on. It's really not healthy for you and you could redirect that energy towards something more productive.

You clearly have insight to life in Amsterdam, but when a majority of your posts is bashing Marco, it's makes it hard to even take your words seriously even though they may actually be right.

I'm not saying you may be wrong in your posts and I'm not saying Marco is always right, but dude, it's been really old for a long time now.
Don't worry about it man, he is on my ignore list. I won't feed his ego anymore.

How is fall shaping up in the Appalachians? That is the one thing I miss about home.

Getting ready to drive from KY to DC. Should be a nice drive. Leaves are just starting to turn.

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Wed 6th Oct 2010 09:28 pm

The stuff ive been reading about today speaks a continuation of values & tolerance! nowhere do i see any talk of coffeeshop or window bans (for now),By the looks of things wilders has his hands full anyways,Thou some squatters do seem to be getting moved on! it must be one of the few things they actualy all agree on,& if they all felt like that about coffeeshops you would be seeing them going 1st so its hope that they may well pass us by! or be it the coffeeshop numbers cut back further & weed deals/sales being pegged at 2 grams per person,Or better still the status quo after all

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SGawain235 · Post by **SGawain235** » Thu 7th Oct 2010 04:34 am

Marco wrote:I asked my Dutch colleagues about this today and they laughed at me. One is voting CDA member and he said "your stoned friends have nothing to worry about."

We all had a good laugh but seriously, they seemed to think it would not be happening.

Ok, to be clear, I'm not saying you are wrong(actually I hope your Dutch colleagues are dead right) but I am curious.

Did they say why we didn't have anything to worry about?

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Fri 8th Oct 2010 05:42 pm

SGawain235 wrote:
Marco wrote:I asked my Dutch colleagues about this today and they laughed at me. One is voting CDA member and he said "your stoned friends have nothing to worry about."

We all had a good laugh but seriously, they seemed to think it would not be happening.
Ok, to be clear, I'm not saying you are wrong(actually I hope your Dutch colleagues are dead right) but I am curious.

Did they say why we didn't have anything to worry about?

Wilders is still trying to build bridges & if anything people are walking away from him

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