possible new dutch coaliton announce new plans

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 04:22 pm

Looks like karma is gona catch up with out mr joke wilders soon enough man

Dutch politicians revolt over burka plans

Christian Democrats are in revolt against their party leaders over plans to ban the burka as part of a deal to create a Dutch liberal-conservative coalition government with the support of Geert Wilders, a far-Right leader.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... plans.html

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 04:28 pm

cisco wrote:i dont think being tough on immigration is a bad thing ? And no im not a racist bt i think alot of countries need to be tougher on immigration due to economics etc and especially illegal immigration

The trouble with wilders & this sarkozy guy is they have short memories cisco,Deporting roma people against EU regulations even thou he is off so called eastern european "peasant" stock himself?,& i bet wilders has some jewish blood in him as well! see cisco nothing in moderation is a bad thing but when you start to single people & groups out its a slippery slope man,Today coffeeshops tomorrow the windows & the day after "guest workers" can f-off home again thanks very much & it just snowballs from there,Hey wasnt your relatives from italy cisco? how would you feel if you had someone like wilders or even the EDL nutters in your face day & night? like i said black people today,Jews tomorrow & JOCKS the day after that,All i am really hearing from people is how many trips they can squeeze in before the hammer comes down! if we all stood up for our s**t instead of thinking of how big a car or house we can have the world wouldnt have all this crap frankly.

NedFlanders · Post by **NedFlanders** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 04:30 pm

just readed that a vast majority of cda voted for the government. so is this really the end of free coffeeshops?

donpacino · Post by **donpacino** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 04:33 pm

i for one am getting more and more freaked out by this the more i read.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68T42K20100930

one of there main plans in there proposals is the making coffee shops dutch members only. They seem really serious about it this time and im thinking it will happen sooner rather than later.

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 04:36 pm

NedFlanders wrote:just readed that a vast majority of cda voted for the government. so is this really the end of free coffeeshops?

Vast majority? what 1

,Wilders was lucky to get only around a 3rd of ALL votes! with most polled in amsterdam btw,Does anyone see the irony here

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Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 04:40 pm

donpacino wrote:i for one am getting more and more freaked out by this the more i read.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68T42K20100930

one of there main plans in there proposals is the making coffee shops dutch members only. They seem really serious about it this time and im thinking it will happen sooner rather than later.

Sounds impressive,Wheres all the money gona come from to do all this? & if people are being layed off its not like they have any extra money coming in anyways,I bet half of his mandate will fall by the wayside in no time! especialy if hes in jail haha,I would like a BMW a Holiday home overseas & a great big scottish castle on an island to live in but making it happen is another thing

,I would even go a far as saying wilders is an embarrassment to most sane dutch people! even the Uk didnt ban the burka & thats saying something,Didnt think the nederlands would come to this like! i wonder where gays & political refugees are on his list?,The only reason there countrys are in a f-ing mess is cos weve sold all sides all kinds of arms over the years! as we have next to nothing else to export

,No1 would choose to go to a country where you are lower than dogs**t & get laughed at

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Cisco · Post by **Cisco** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 04:51 pm

Kingdoc wrote:
cisco wrote:i dont think being tough on immigration is a bad thing ? And no im not a racist bt i think alot of countries need to be tougher on immigration due to economics etc and especially illegal immigration

The trouble with wilders & this sarkozy guy is they have short memories cisco,Deporting roma people against EU regulations even thou he is off so called eastern european "peasant" stock himself?,& i bet wilders has some jewish blood in him as well! see cisco nothing in moderation is a bad thing but when you start to single people & groups out its a slippery slope man,Today coffeeshops tomorrow the windows & the day after "guest workers" can f-off home again thanks very much & it just snowballs from there,Hey wasnt your relatives from italy cisco? how would you feel if you had someone like wilders or even the EDL nutters in your face day & night? like i said black people today,Jews tomorrow & JOCKS the day after that,All i am really hearing from people is how many trips they can squeeze in before the hammer comes down! if we all stood up for our s**t instead of thinking of how big a car or house we can have the world wouldnt have all this crap frankly.

My comment was more of a generalisation rather than specifically on the Dutch debate

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 05:13 pm

cisco wrote:
Kingdoc wrote:
cisco wrote:i dont think being tough on immigration is a bad thing ? And no im not a racist bt i think alot of countries need to be tougher on immigration due to economics etc and especially illegal immigration

The trouble with wilders & this sarkozy guy is they have short memories cisco,Deporting roma people against EU regulations even thou he is off so called eastern european "peasant" stock himself?,& i bet wilders has some jewish blood in him as well! see cisco nothing in moderation is a bad thing but when you start to single people & groups out its a slippery slope man,Today coffeeshops tomorrow the windows & the day after "guest workers" can f-off home again thanks very much & it just snowballs from there,Hey wasnt your relatives from italy cisco? how would you feel if you had someone like wilders or even the EDL nutters in your face day & night? like i said black people today,Jews tomorrow & JOCKS the day after that,All i am really hearing from people is how many trips they can squeeze in before the hammer comes down! if we all stood up for our s**t instead of thinking of how big a car or house we can have the world wouldnt have all this crap frankly.
My comment was more of a generalisation rather than specifically on the Dutch debate

We have big immigrant problems here as well yea,But you have to ask yourself! why are they here in the 1st place?

1.war/poverty & hunger (mainly caused by western powers)

2.Gross mis management & utter incompetence (at the highest levels of our govt for not even knowing the figures so its our fault again as we cant even begin to get serious on "overstayers")

3.A cheap source of maids/car valets & security guards for rich people (to wash there toilets/protect there money & stuff so there not gona compalin if they have a dog in the fight are they?)

4.Our lot are lazy c**ts thus justifying the overseas work force (thou some "workers" are openly calling for the destruction of the UK in mosques)

Theres a saying we get the govt we deserve! & we deserve ours

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donpacino · Post by **donpacino** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 05:38 pm

on one hand they are on about saving money and reducing the deficit etc but on the other hand by limiting who can go in to coffee shops and reducing age of window girls etc will make them lose money, alot of money. Just from the coffee shops alone they would lose a fortune, i dont know if tax is paid on weed or not but even if it is not tourists buy other things like drinks and food from there which tax is paid on, they would lose a certain amount of tourist revenue from non coffee shop establishments which would not have as much custom. All that loss combined with the amount of unemployment they would create as alot of coffee shops would have to close, meaning more benefits to pay out plus alot of empty buildings to deal with, who would want to visit a city with alot of empty buildings. Not to mention the cost involved in enforcing a rule like this. Either they are stupid or really do not give a f**k.

On the other hand they could just be throwing the subject in there plans just to keep certain people/nations happy but with no major intentions to push them through, i mean it is hard to believe any goverment would just cut off a cash supply just like that. I suppose only time will tell.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 07:12 pm

Kingdoc wrote:
cisco wrote:
Kingdoc wrote:

The trouble with wilders & this sarkozy guy is they have short memories cisco,Deporting roma people against EU regulations even thou he is off so called eastern european "peasant" stock himself?,& i bet wilders has some jewish blood in him as well! see cisco nothing in moderation is a bad thing but when you start to single people & groups out its a slippery slope man,Today coffeeshops tomorrow the windows & the day after "guest workers" can f-off home again thanks very much & it just snowballs from there,Hey wasnt your relatives from italy cisco? how would you feel if you had someone like wilders or even the EDL nutters in your face day & night? like i said black people today,Jews tomorrow & JOCKS the day after that,All i am really hearing from people is how many trips they can squeeze in before the hammer comes down! if we all stood up for our s**t instead of thinking of how big a car or house we can have the world wouldnt have all this crap frankly.
My comment was more of a generalisation rather than specifically on the Dutch debate

We have big immigrant problems here as well yea,But you have to ask yourself! why are they here in the 1st place?

1.war/poverty & hunger (mainly caused by western powers)

2.Gross mis management & utter incompetence (at the highest levels of our govt for not even knowing the figures so its our fault again as we cant even begin to get serious on "overstayers")

3.A cheap source of maids/car valets & security guards for rich people (to wash there toilets/protect there money & stuff so there not gona compalin if they have a dog in the fight are they?)

4.Our lot are lazy c**ts thus justifying the overseas work force (thou some "workers" are openly calling for the destruction of the UK in mosques)

Theres a saying we get the govt we deserve! & we deserve ours .

5: the easiest benefit system to abuse.

Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 09:02 pm

donpacino wrote:on one hand they are on about saving money and reducing the deficit etc but on the other hand by limiting who can go in to coffee shops and reducing age of window girls etc will make them lose money, alot of money. Just from the coffee shops alone they would lose a fortune, i dont know if tax is paid on weed or not but even if it is not tourists buy other things like drinks and food from there which tax is paid on, they would lose a certain amount of tourist revenue from non coffee shop establishments which would not have as much custom. All that loss combined with the amount of unemployment they would create as alot of coffee shops would have to close, meaning more benefits to pay out plus alot of empty buildings to deal with, who would want to visit a city with alot of empty buildings. Not to mention the cost involved in enforcing a rule like this. Either they are stupid or really do not give a f**k.

On the other hand they could just be throwing the subject in there plans just to keep certain people/nations happy but with no major intentions to push them through, i mean it is hard to believe any goverment would just cut off a cash supply just like that. I suppose only time will tell.

I think the chips will fall in the middle,Ie they may put the age limmit up to say 21 & close down all the windows/coffeeshops near schools & maybe even bring in the card membership system after all,But banning people outright cos of there nationality is another thing! & if they do bring in card system its nothing new as coffeeshop centraal has like a membership card that the dealer swipes each time you buy a deal & get like 25 cents put on you account! kinda like a loyalty bonus,Most people here go like 2/3 times per year so aquiring & renewing any membership shouldnt be any biggy! hey you may even be albe to do it online,But these are big iffs man! wilders may go to jail or better still his credability will be totaly destroyed after court in amsterdam on monday,Last time i checked race hate & race insults were jailtime stuff,& boner yor right man! they are tons of "chancers" out there! my sister works with people who have mental issues & such & some have openly said that they are swinging the lead! also cold weather heating money being sent to oap`s who live in tropical countires is another thing that gets peoples goat here

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Kingdoc · Post by **Kingdoc** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 09:05 pm

Now squatters are in the mix guys! christ the list is growing with 2/3 bogeymen & fallguys added each day lol,I think its safe to say he has everyones attention

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http://news.scotsman.com/world/Dutch-mo ... 6561696.jp

By the looks of things the hitlist goes like this

1.Savage cuts (everywhere)

2.Immigration Capped (Nearly stopped altogether from arab/islamic states)

3.Hash heads sent packing

4.Ban on burkah`s

5.Ban on kranker (squatters)

6.Windows cut right back (no existent)

7.No new mosques (At all ANYWHERE)

8.Bans on workers wives & spouces (Near total)

9.Fast track deportations (drop kicked out the door)

10.Dual passports taken back for ANY offence in the 1st 10 years of being granted one

11.Its compulsory to swap your dutch passport for your nazi party membership ID card right away! + pay tribute to the party each week out of your pay packet

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donpacino · Post by **donpacino** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 09:41 pm

im starting to think these plans are sounding like nothing more than a small minded, racist man/partys dream. I cant see how they can pass even half of those new proposals.

qahouaji · Post by **qahouaji** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 09:48 pm

This will never happen. They barely got the coalition together, and PVV isn't officially in it. These people don't rule by decree; they must pass these measures in parliament.

Dave near London · Post by **Dave near London** » Sat 2nd Oct 2010 09:52 pm

Thank the Lord I went 2 weeks ago (and enjoyed mightily the priviliges) - there has to be a compromise here - maybe an Amsterdam "island" in view of the economic benefits

lets keep a positive view if we can

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