then how comes I never had trouble with anyone in Amsterdam, but had much here in the german cities when we went out?
its the drunken idiots who are noisy and fucked up.......ofc there are stoners like this as well, but its like 3%.....if people dont realise that, they have no clue
sh@dy- there are LOADS of idiots who visit the dam. Mainly chavey types who populate the red light area bars who get pissed, smoke more than they can handle, incesently talk abou shagging whores and are loud crude and behave like idiots.
Im not having a go at stoner types (i would be having a go at myself if i was) more the types who treat the place as a free fo all. I realise that idiots are present in most places whowever they seem to go to town when in amsterdam.
if that is what you and the dutch politicians believe they are totaly wrong.
like I stated, its so noisy here in german discos, I stopped going to the drinking-places and watch out for discos where people are mainly doing other drugs and never had any problems with idiots again, I dont take the chemical shit, but its funnier to party with people on cocain,speed and XTC when stoned than with drunken fuckers......
sh@dy-maybe im being thick but i dont understand your point. Im not saying that there are only drunk idiots in amsterdam. I live in scotland the worldwide capital of druken idiots, closley followed by our irish cousins and english neighbours. Our city centres resemble war zones on friday and saturday nights due to the drink induced violence. Glasgow our largest city in scotland in a piss heads paradise (pub on ever corner) with the highest stabbing rate worldwide.
Amsterdam is a relatively safe city. iv been more than twenty times over past 10years and only had one bit of bother- i was pinned against the wall down an alleyway late at night by two large morrcan fellas who i think were wanting to inspect my wallet. thankfully a drug dealer (i know this as he offered me coke a few minutes earlier) who was passing came to my aid,shouted on his associates and i was able to make a get away.
Thanks, DarkGlobe. You realize that: the coffee shop industry is basically sunk without non-Dutch customers. Such a move would create havoc in parliament because the Dutch government (a minority government with 54 votes, and the "nod" of the PVV), could never draw up a new policy and get it passed in the Tweede Kamer. Billions of dollars would be lost, and Holland would be well on its way to becoming an unpopular police state like Poland or Russia.
donpacino wrote:if this tourist ban does go ahead then im gonna be really gutted about it, i used to go to amsterdam twice a year up to 5 years back but met someone and had kids so didnt get chance to get back until last month for me and my wifes honeymoon, it was her first time and she fell in love with the place as much as i did and we have planned to go back every year for our anniversary it wont be the same if we cant go in CS and tbh we probably wouldnt go, how torturous would it be to walk past a CS and not be able to go in there.
Was reading tons about this during the night & if any agreement is made the PVV will be the JUNIOR partner in any so called "marriage",& the last time i checked the small guy doesnt call the shots! there agreement is a big if anyways,The CDA is deeply divided & uncomfortable with ANY arrangement with the PVV ,If hes been chasing an agreement since june i dont see what an extra 2 days is going to do if i were honest! they are using coffeeshops & that to force threw something bigger by the looks of it,Thats if wilders can dodge jail tomorrow hahah nazi f**k .
donpacino wrote:if this tourist ban does go ahead then im gonna be really gutted about it, i used to go to amsterdam twice a year up to 5 years back but met someone and had kids so didnt get chance to get back until last month for me and my wifes honeymoon, it was her first time and she fell in love with the place as much as i did and we have planned to go back every year for our anniversary it wont be the same if we cant go in CS and tbh we probably wouldnt go, how torturous would it be to walk past a CS and not be able to go in there.
Was reading tons about this during the night & if any agreement is made the PVV will be the JUNIOR partner in any so called "marriage",& the last time i checked the small guy doesnt call the shots! there agreement is a big if anyways,The CDA is deeply divided & uncomfortable with ANY arrangement with the PVV ,If hes been chasing an agreement since june i dont see what an extra 2 days is going to do if i were honest! they are using coffeeshops & that to force threw something bigger by the looks of it,Thats if wilders can dodge jail tomorrow hahah nazi f**k .
Lol. I think it is a good thing to that he will be the little guy, but from what i have read the cda and the other party are just as opposed to the coffee shops as wilders party
donpacino wrote:if this tourist ban does go ahead then im gonna be really gutted about it, i used to go to amsterdam twice a year up to 5 years back but met someone and had kids so didnt get chance to get back until last month for me and my wifes honeymoon, it was her first time and she fell in love with the place as much as i did and we have planned to go back every year for our anniversary it wont be the same if we cant go in CS and tbh we probably wouldnt go, how torturous would it be to walk past a CS and not be able to go in there.
Was reading tons about this during the night & if any agreement is made the PVV will be the JUNIOR partner in any so called "marriage",& the last time i checked the small guy doesnt call the shots! there agreement is a big if anyways,The CDA is deeply divided & uncomfortable with ANY arrangement with the PVV ,If hes been chasing an agreement since june i dont see what an extra 2 days is going to do if i were honest! they are using coffeeshops & that to force threw something bigger by the looks of it,Thats if wilders can dodge jail tomorrow hahah nazi f**k .
Lol. I think it is a good thing to that he will be the little guy, but from what i have read the cda and the other party are just as opposed to the coffee shops as wilders party
This is NOT over! seems me & you are in the minority here,Dont listen to the right wing propoganda either mate! that lot are the 1st to give up but yet are the 1st to smuggle back,Not me,Wait till tuesday man! things will be clearer then.
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Was reading tons about this during the night & if any agreement is made the PVV will be the JUNIOR partner in any so called "marriage",& the last time i checked the small guy doesnt call the shots! there agreement is a big if anyways,The CDA is deeply divided & uncomfortable with ANY arrangement with the PVV ,If hes been chasing an agreement since june i dont see what an extra 2 days is going to do if i were honest! they are using coffeeshops & that to force threw something bigger by the looks of it,Thats if wilders can dodge jail tomorrow hahah nazi f**k .
Lol. I think it is a good thing to that he will be the little guy, but from what i have read the cda and the other party are just as opposed to the coffee shops as wilders party
This is NOT over! seems me & you are in the minority here,Dont listen to the right wing propoganda either mate! that lot are the 1st to give up but yet are the 1st to smuggle back,Not me,Wait till tuesday man! things will be clearer then.
donpacino wrote:
Lol. I think it is a good thing to that he will be the little guy, but from what i have read the cda and the other party are just as opposed to the coffee shops as wilders party
This is NOT over! seems me & you are in the minority here,Dont listen to the right wing propoganda either mate! that lot are the 1st to give up but yet are the 1st to smuggle back,Not me,Wait till tuesday man! things will be clearer then.
You are right, nothing else we can do anyway
No disrepects to dutch people & i dont mean to sound like s d**k here but whos gona go to holland now over say spain during the winter? if we were all weed junkies we all would have just went to spain in the 1st place! like 11 years ago now in my case! i go for a holiday & meets where possible,Like the other poster said! whos gona spend there money on a place where your not welcome/get soaked threw/paying top dollar lteraly/& get treated badly at times?,I can get soaked here/smoke/& get frostbitten without all the expence & hasstle! i can be a druggy here without the expence of being a tourist so what answer have they got for that?,Like i said i dont need to travel like 5 countries to get smoke! & if i did i would stop real fast,I go for a holiday! i can go to blackpool & get smoke there so does that make me a parasite or junkie tourist? no i thought not,Doc.
donpacino wrote:amsterdam is a unique city in itself, remove/restrict the things people like and it just becomes another boring european city. IMO
Yea! an example of the way things should have been elsewere,It was an utopia for a while like but over the 11 years i can speak for it has changed,Theo van gough thing/rld near slashed in half/mushroom ban/5 gram limmit/demise of the gilden/Bye bye yellow trams/smoking ban/rise of the PVV & now the windows/coffeehshop/sqatter/burkah/mosque + immigration ban? its a no brainer isnt it.
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,If hes been chasing an agreement since june i dont see what an extra 2 days is going to do if i were honest! they are using coffeeshops & that to force threw something bigger by the looks of it,Thats if wilders can dodge jail tomorrow hahah nazi f**k 
