donpacino wrote:amsterdam is a unique city in itself, remove/restrict the things people like and it just becomes another boring european city. IMO
Yea! an example of the way things should have been elsewere,It was an utopia for a while like but over the 11 years i can speak for it has changed,Theo van gough thing/rld near slashed in half/mushroom ban/5 gram limmit/demise of the gilden/Bye bye yellow trams/smoking ban & now the windows/coffeehsop/sqatter/burkah/mosque & even immigration ban? its a no brainer isnt it.
Agree all this is shit. I know someone who has studied the RLD he told me last year that he thinks in 10 yrs that will completely gone too, oh goodie yet another homogenous clone city to visit
donpacino wrote:amsterdam is a unique city in itself, remove/restrict the things people like and it just becomes another boring european city. IMO
Yea! an example of the way things should have been elsewere,It was an utopia for a while like but over the 11 years i can speak for it has changed,Theo van gough thing/rld near slashed in half/mushroom ban/5 gram limmit/demise of the gilden/Bye bye yellow trams/smoking ban & now the windows/coffeehsop/sqatter/burkah/mosque & even immigration ban? its a no brainer isnt it.
Agree all this is shit. I know someone who has studied the RLD he told me last year that he thinks in 10 yrs that will completely gone too, oh goodie yet another homogenous clone city to visit
Welcome to toytown rufus .
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Yea! an example of the way things should have been elsewere,It was an utopia for a while like but over the 11 years i can speak for it has changed,Theo van gough thing/rld near slashed in half/mushroom ban/5 gram limmit/demise of the gilden/Bye bye yellow trams/smoking ban & now the windows/coffeehsop/sqatter/burkah/mosque & even immigration ban? its a no brainer isnt it.
Agree all this is shit. I know someone who has studied the RLD he told me last year that he thinks in 10 yrs that will completely gone too, oh goodie yet another homogenous clone city to visit
Welcome to toytown rufus .
Oh yeah cheers KD, and I'm sure you can tell I'm happy to be here
Rufus wrote:
Agree all this is shit. I know someone who has studied the RLD he told me last year that he thinks in 10 yrs that will completely gone too, oh goodie yet another homogenous clone city to visit
Welcome to toytown rufus .
Oh yeah cheers KD, and I'm sure you can tell I'm happy to be here
Nol & milehigh dont seem to be making much noises?,Ok immigration is out of control but it shouldnt have come to this in the 1st place! i mean dont these people have any criteria on who can enter there country? does anyone bother counting?,Better not let them come in the 1st place then let them come & send them all home again! ie political footballs just the windows & coffeeshops are,Looks like the nederlands will be a battle groud in the next few months like! one thing ive noticed about the dutch is they are like us in a way! ie they dont take the doormat role very well & if i know dutch people they like there money & playthings,& the sqatters are another problem altogether! type "amsterdam riots" in youtube.They dont like being kicked about either.
Oh yeah cheers KD, and I'm sure you can tell I'm happy to be here
Nol & milehigh dont seem to be making much noises?,Ok immigration is out of control but it shouldnt have come to this in the 1st place! i mean dont these people have any criteria on who can enter there country? does anyone bother counting?,Better not let them come in the 1st place then let them come & send them all home again! ie political footballs just the windows & coffeeshops are,Looks like the nederlands will be a battle groud in the next few months like! one thing ive noticed about the dutch is they are like us in a way! ie they dont take the doormat role very well & if i know dutch people they like there money & playthings,& the sqatters are another problem altogether! type "amsterdam riots" in youtube.They dont like being kicked about either.
Honestly I don't know how all this will shake down, I will join a riot when I go out in Jan and fight for all ACDrs seriously though...fucking depressing all this..
Rufus wrote:
Oh yeah cheers KD, and I'm sure you can tell I'm happy to be here
Nol & milehigh dont seem to be making much noises?,Ok immigration is out of control but it shouldnt have come to this in the 1st place! i mean dont these people have any criteria on who can enter there country? does anyone bother counting?,Better not let them come in the 1st place then let them come & send them all home again! ie political footballs just the windows & coffeeshops are,Looks like the nederlands will be a battle groud in the next few months like! one thing ive noticed about the dutch is they are like us in a way! ie they dont take the doormat role very well & if i know dutch people they like there money & playthings,& the sqatters are another problem altogether! type "amsterdam riots" in youtube.They dont like being kicked about either.
Honestly I don't know how all this will shake down, I will join a riot when I go out in Jan and fight for all ACDrs seriously though...fucking depressing all this..
Lol rufus i wont riot either,But i would lend my support to any march or peacefull protest that may take place,Cant speak for the sqautters thou! some of them seems mad anyways ,Ah thanks boner! always liked MHD,Never met nol but i know hes done for for the subculture than any of us could ever do! if we are gona win or even keep the status quo we are gona need players like them on our side/team.
i have been emailing a coffee shop (no names mentioned as i dont want to get anyone in trouble) in amsterdam this afternoon about this and they dont think it will even be passed, just the usual pandering to the voters etc, but they said that if for some small reason it is then there is no way to enforce it and that the mayor of amsterdam would fight it all the way and there would be some sort of agreement made to make amsterdam excempt from it.
Rufus wrote:I'm all for peaceful people power, wouldn't be the first time I've done it, nor will it be the last I'm sure, I'm a modern day suffragette type person
I am no doormat i know that,& even if its a petition or something like that at this end its progress & bringing something to the fight at least ,Any march or that i will be there! i will fly over there for a day or 2 or a little longer maybe.
donpacino wrote:i have been emailing a coffee shop (no names mentioned as i dont want to get anyone in trouble) in amsterdam this afternoon about this and they dont think it will even be passed, just the usual pandering to the voters etc, but they said that if for some small reason it is then there is no way to enforce it and that the mayor of amsterdam would fight it all the way and there would be some sort of agreement made to make amsterdam excempt from it.
Sounds kinda promising?
Maybe a glimmer of hope. I have already emailed some contacts at a university over there (no names again) about this, so will keep ya posted once they get back to me
donpacino wrote:i have been emailing a coffee shop (no names mentioned as i dont want to get anyone in trouble) in amsterdam this afternoon about this and they dont think it will even be passed, just the usual pandering to the voters etc, but they said that if for some small reason it is then there is no way to enforce it and that the mayor of amsterdam would fight it all the way and there would be some sort of agreement made to make amsterdam excempt from it.
Sounds kinda promising?
Maybe a glimmer of hope. I have already emailed some contacts at a university over there (no names again) about this, so will keep ya posted once they get back to me
Just over at smokersguide forum & there are NOTHING about any of this,Bushdoc/peiweit are lazy gits but they would have posted on the forum or tickertape if this was the real deal,I think people are thinking of the "endorcement" the other day?,I was reading yesterday & it says no decision will be made untill tuesday! as the vote was chaotic & they didnt know what they were voting for (sounds about right) how people think they know better than the leader of the CDA is beyond me .
cisco wrote:
My comment was more of a generalisation rather than specifically on the Dutch debate
We have big immigrant problems here as well yea,But you have to ask yourself! why are they here in the 1st place?
1.war/poverty & hunger (mainly caused by western powers)
2.Gross mis management & utter incompetence (at the highest levels of our govt for not even knowing the figures so its our fault again as we cant even begin to get serious on "overstayers")
3.A cheap source of maids/car valets & security guards for rich people (to wash there toilets/protect there money & stuff so there not gona compalin if they have a dog in the fight are they?)
4.Our lot are lazy c**ts thus justifying the overseas work force (thou some "workers" are openly calling for the destruction of the UK in mosques)
Theres a saying we get the govt we deserve! & we deserve ours .
We have big immigrant problems here as well yea,But you have to ask yourself! why are they here in the 1st place?
1.war/poverty & hunger (mainly caused by western powers)
2.Gross mis management & utter incompetence (at the highest levels of our govt for not even knowing the figures so its our fault again as we cant even begin to get serious on "overstayers")
3.A cheap source of maids/car valets & security guards for rich people (to wash there toilets/protect there money & stuff so there not gona compalin if they have a dog in the fight are they?)
4.Our lot are lazy c**ts thus justifying the overseas work force (thou some "workers" are openly calling for the destruction of the UK in mosques)
Theres a saying we get the govt we deserve! & we deserve ours .
5: the easiest benefit system to abuse.
Exacto mundo
I dono how they do it,Ive not signed on in over 10 years & it took them all there time to give me a giro when i did! ie it not arriving on time & whatnot,Anyone that can con them are dam good.
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seriously though...fucking depressing all this..
,Any march or that i will be there! i will fly over there for a day or 2 or a little longer maybe.