Ok, I am worried now

[Spliphy]

fairly sure this latest proposal is again linked to the EU bordering countries.

a thriving black market with untaxed income will always cause problems to these countries.

the Dutch politicians have absolutely no problem with Cannabis tourists so long as they do not try to take anything back home with them.

[donpacino]

the Dutch politicians have absolutely no problem with Cannabis tourists so long as they do not try to take anything back home with them.

Well lets hope when it goes to parliament the dutch mp's show there support for the CS and dont vote against them.

[Pauli Wallnuts]

the Dutch politicians have absolutely no problem with Cannabis tourists so long as they do not try to take anything back home with them.

Well lets hope when it goes to parliament the dutch mp's show there support for the CS and dont vote against them.

they wont be voting against the cs's but against tourists buying from them, in amsterdam a maximum of 200 business will directly be affected by the ban, thats 200owners, nothing in comparison with the amount of money bars/fast food joints & hotel/appartments will lose from the loss of drug tourists, but they'l still be fine, they'l still get the lads weekends coming over every friday night regardless of hash being available to buy,
also i keep hearing people saying how the dutch are losing their tolerance & they have to wake up &stop the ban, the ban doesnt affect dutch residents so why should it bother them, if anything theyre probably encouraging it, i would be, less demand =cheaper prices

[Kingdoc]

As stated above a big part of the problem are the whiney baby nanny states that make up the EU and do not like that the weed and hash is "escaping" from Holland into there countries.
Canada knows that pain all too well, we were poised on the brink of legalisation twice when the USA threatened to cut off trade with us if we did.
Of course despite Chreatins best effort he could not convince the states to mind there own god damned business.

They have all kept that argument up for years now! & its tiresome,The EU should respect "sovereign" laws like the feds do (sometimes) with state laws in america,The EU was never set up for all this! people thought it was a free trade & movement agreement,All this other crap is very costly not forgeting a pain in the a**e frankly,Ps & i hear flanders is reaping the rotten harvest of "street dealers" once again filling the gap in the market + being a blight to the neighbourhoods they trade in,Like bonglord says "i thought we were past all this s**t".

[donpacino]

hey guys it took some time but i finally got some replies from a couple of CS in amsterdam.

One of the emails (more of a smaller CS) says that they have heard rules like this mentioned so many times they have lost count and probably there is nothing to worry about but if in a worst case scenario the government push for these changes there would be a strong opposition from the other partys, city mayors and the CS owners that it would take a a very long time , if at all to be implemented.

The second email (from a more commercial CS) says other than being briefly mentioned once in a paper they have not heard of the propsed changes and that they are not worried and none of the other CS owners they know are talking about it.

Make of them what you want but personally i think those are the most positive things i have heard about this matter since it first came up again 2 weeks ago, maybe there is a silver lining on the horizon.

[Kingdoc]

hey guys it took some time but i finally got some replies from a couple of CS in amsterdam.

One of the emails (more of a smaller CS) says that they have heard rules like this mentioned so many times they have lost count and probably there is nothing to worry about but if in a worst case scenario the government push for these changes there would be a strong opposition from the other partys, city mayors and the CS owners that it would take a a very long time , if at all to be implemented.

The second email (from a more commercial CS) says other than being briefly mentioned once in a paper they have not heard of the propsed changes and that they are not worried and none of the other CS owners they know are talking about it.

Make of them what you want but personally i think those are the most positive things i have heard about this matter since it first came up again 2 weeks ago, maybe there is a silver lining on the horizon.

Oh not this again! lol,Na man your post has some truth to it! & i dont see simon from hunters talking about it on here either funny enough,But on the other hand it does feel like the calm before the storm! i think they will take this chance & tighten further (over time) but if that includes a ban on overseas people i simply dono,I hope not personaly like! amsterdam is a great place to visit & if this ban does go threw it would be a huge blow for a lot of people,I know tons have said (myself included) that we would just go elsewhere & so on but the dam loss would be felt worldwide for sure,Like you said its been 2 weeks now & tons have been said over that time & were still no closer to knowing for sure 1 way or the other ,I am trying not to worry about it to much as ive said before cos i have a trip coming up soon,Fingers crossed thou .

[Roots Daughter]

I was told by my favourite coffeeshop owner that the mayors and local councils are the only ones who can decide to close the shops in their area.

Perhaps this is just the usual political pandering and posturing and nothing more?
--Roots Daughter

[sea72]

hey guys it took some time but i finally got some replies from a couple of CS in amsterdam.

One of the emails (more of a smaller CS) says that they have heard rules like this mentioned so many times they have lost count and probably there is nothing to worry about but if in a worst case scenario the government push for these changes there would be a strong opposition from the other partys, city mayors and the CS owners that it would take a a very long time , if at all to be implemented.

The second email (from a more commercial CS) says other than being briefly mentioned once in a paper they have not heard of the propsed changes and that they are not worried and none of the other CS owners they know are talking about it.

Make of them what you want but personally i think those are the most positive things i have heard about this matter since it first came up again 2 weeks ago, maybe there is a silver lining on the horizon.

i think holland dont closed CS)))

[xXEXCALABERXx]

I hope it doesn't happen and am sure if it seriously looks like it will then there will be strong opposition to it. However the financial side should not be argued as the tax from weed is about 450m e a year but heiniken probably pay close to that, just from one company so in the whole scheme of things it wont make a huge impact.

As smokers sure the availability of weed guides our choices but again more people come for the RLD than the cs's i feel it must be fought on the civil liberties side of things and freedom of choice and movement within the EU and trade laws etc

[Smirks]

Nice 2 year bump

[redeyezman]

Nice 2 year bump

lol..

I still think it can happen.

[dosmanos]

The first time I ever heard about "the change" was back in November '07. I was chatting with the guy in Homegrown Fantaseeds, and he had a very, very grim outlook on the future of the CS. It was very depressing. But later that same trip I had a conversation with another Dutch gentleman who has a bar in Spui. I told him about my concerns, and he just gave me this wry smile and said that the Dutch have a way of working these things out. So far, that's the way it seems to me! Although I don't have any solid facts to back me up, my gut feeling is that the spirit of Amsterdam will never die, and I'll continue to love that grand old lady of the North Sea better than anyplace else on this planet.

See you in November.

[bedge]

I see there are some for sale...[/quote]

High do you know which coffeeshops are for sale??
Or where they are being advertised ??
thanks
Bedge

[Slip & Sal]

yeah I want to know too.

[Balou]

I see there are some for sale...

High do you know which coffeeshops are for sale??
Or where they are being advertised ??
thanks
Bedge

That quote was from 2 years ago when there were a couple of shops for sale.