Arjan to release ghs exodus cheese

[Boner]

I'd suggest getting Jorge Cervantes Grow Bible as well, forums are great but theres nothing quite like having a book in front of you as well.

For forums I always recommend ICmag and thcbay, both have some shit hot growers on.

[Kermit]

I can get uk cheese cuts £15 a go,12.50 a gram for bud

Where you live, i will take the risk.

[USbongLord]

12.50 a gram?...thats nuts..expensive there huh?

[Prestoned]

People do charge upto £10 for a 0.7g, crazy!

[Kermit]

12.50 a gram?...thats nuts..expensive there huh?

No not the weed, the cutting

[templeball]

somethings not adding up here..

the exodus cuttings date to what, say mid 80's earliest, mid 90's latest? Now if the previous post is true about the genetic life of a plant decreasing all the time and theres only a few years in a clone before genetic deteriation sets in, then how comes these UK exodus cheese clones are still churning out top level very strong stinkin and tasty cheese clone after clone?..so all im saying is how can it be true that the genetic life of anything is only a few years if the 20 yr old genetic lineage of exodus cheese still rocks and has all the power still in after all these years.

maybe cheese was a gift from the heavens.....it was in adam and eves garden, and it was really a cheese leaf that adam put in front of his privates (eve could peek through the gaps)...answered my own question

[Boner]

Clones (or cuttings as they're not really clones ) are and always will be viable if they're taken from new growth, I never keep mother plants for long, I'll clone it and then after a few cycles I'll either throw her away or flower her out I just keep a clone as the next mother, by doing this you could quite well keep a plants genetics going forever.

[PeteAH]

Clones (or cuttings as they're not really clones ) are and always will be viable if they're taken from new growth, I never keep mother plants for long, I'll clone it and then after a few cycles I'll either throw her away or flower her out I just keep a clone as the next mother, by doing this you could quite well keep a plants genetics going forever.

Did you not read my previous post?
Best way to keep clones going is to keep mothers indefinately.
Bonsai mothers are the way to go.
Making a new mum every few grows is ridiculous

the exodus cuttings date to what, say mid 80's earliest, mid 90's latest? Now if the previous post is true about the genetic life of a plant decreasing all the time and theres only a few years in a clone before genetic deteriation sets in, then how comes these UK exodus cheese clones are still churning out top level very strong stinkin and tasty cheese clone after clone?..so all im saying is how can it be true that the genetic life of anything is only a few years if the 20 yr old genetic lineage of exodus cheese still rocks and has all the power still in after all these years.

It takes 20 - 30 years for a clone line to lose all viability, sometimes even longer.
But to do that you need to clone a clone more or less every grow, not keep a mother. (Like the tree industry did in the 80's, which led to mass disease in N. America in most of the Birch trees)
It's also worth pointing out that most cheese clones cutting about now are probably not the Exodus cut.

The age of the clone comes from whatever it was grown out of.
If you keep a mother, all new clones come out at the same cell age as the growth cells in the mother were all created (or grown) at the same time.
Taking a clone of a clone means you age the genetic line to death.
Plants have a finite amount of new growth they can grow after the cells on the stem are created.

The weed may still be stinky and potent, but not as potent as it once was, it won't have the same disease resistance, pest resistance, stress resistance etc. as the original did. It won't yield as much, clone as easy, take the same amount of nutes, respond the same to molasses or any boosters etc. etc. etc.
Sometimes it losing all viability barely effects what you smoke, but if you've grown the clone for a year or two you'll notice it.

It's been shown in species of tree's and also in fruit and veg too.

[Boner]

Lots of people including myself use the clone of a clone method without any problems whatsoever, take healthy clones off a healthy plant and you'll end up with healthy plants, you can do this for years and years.

[PeteAH]

Check this out Boner:Bonsai Mums

I'm not making this up mate; genuinely they lose viability.
But i'll give up on it after this post.

[Boner]

There's a million and 1 threads all over the growing forums that say there isn't a problem cloning a clone and so on, end of the day every grower does what suits them the best and what works, this works for me, bonsais work for you, as long as everyones growing their own then it's all good.

[Prestoned]

I made a Bonsai last night, I shall let you know my results. I have cloned a Chocolope for almost a year, always from a clone of a clone.

Strangely though, I find picking the best looking cutting a few times has made the Choc a dream. Nodes at about every 5-10mm. Not seen a sativa with such short internodal space.

[USbongLord]

Lots of people including myself use the clone of a clone method without any problems whatsoever, take healthy clones off a healthy plant and you'll end up with healthy plants, you can do this for years and years.

been doing that for years and my say 50 or sixty gen armegeddon will debunk any arguement about genetic drift...never had that prob...had genetics go hermi after 10 or so gens....clone off clone saves so much space and energy and ya always make 2 so incase something goes wrong...i clone right as they go into flowering as not to shock and always from the bottom..two reasons,it cleans the bottom outso ya can water easier,and it gets rid of those branches that wouldnt of amounted to crap anyways..

[Mb]

I can get uk cheese cuts £15 a go,12.50 a gram for bud

Where you live, i will take the risk.

Im in Scotland man.cuts gets past about here with many diffrent names,most off the time it's the same 52 day max flowering commercial strain but with the excheese cut u no it's the real deal as soon u switch these little babies on too 12 hours

[Exodus Cheese Smoker]

I would be very suprised if this is the REAL Exodus Cheese although i do know there has been cuts taken over there.

Same old GH just hyping it up to make money!!!!

Exoudus collective used to give these out free cuts back in the day, they were never about the money.

Shame!!!!!