My first grow - journal w/ pics

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Re: My first grow - journal w/ pics

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Don't worry so much about flowering time as what you Trichomes are telling you! When they start to turn cloudy start flushing. the Trichs don't lie! As for the Kandy Kush I think you have a combo problem going on. Over neuted and under lit, thus the clawing, I would go with water only for the next watering, if it looks better move it to position 1 for a while, no more Beasty or Cha-ching if it doesn't snap out of it!


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cisco wrote:i thought the leaves kinda lookes like these ones in this pic ? and this was burnt with a bulb :shock: :lol:
I don't think heat burn is the cause. As ZBeebs stated, these plants aren't close to the lamp. In fact, they look to be the farthest away. If he didn't adjust the lamp when he took pics, there is almost no way the lamp caused these abnormalities. Just too far away. As always, I can be wrong, but in this case I doubt it. From my personal experience, research, and what I've been taught, these plants are having difficulty with nutrients.

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Cal X wrote:Don't worry so much about flowering time as what you Trichomes are telling you! When they start to turn cloudy start flushing. the Trichs don't lie! As for the Kandy Kush I think you have a combo problem going on. Over neuted and under lit, thus the clawing, I would go with water only for the next watering, if it looks better move it to position 1 for a while, no more Beasty or Cha-ching if it doesn't snap out of it!
Agreed.
I would suggest that he start flushing now given that the trichomes are turning, not to mention the nute/light issues. IMO I don't think another week of nutes is going to make a significant difference. Given the circumstances, he might do more harm than good.

ZBeebs, do what you think is best.

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Yup, the kandy kush is in one of the corners so it gets less direct light than others. Fed all but the burned ones with 1/8 teaspoon of cha-ching. Gave the burned ones plain water.

Took a real good look at the trichs today with my little scope, and they're clear. Had to look hard to find any cloudy ones, its all clear ones (I looked at some pics online and what I have are clear not cloudy)

I will heed the advice here and will begin flushing soon - what percentage of clear/cloudy trichs do you guys begin flushing?
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The first sign of cloudy Trichs, is supposed to be the time to start your flush. Each plant will probably be ready at different times. You should be able to wait until all of your girls start to turn cloudy, if it's under a weeks difference; that is, if If your trying to harvest all of your plants at the same time, and, you want to do a 24 hour dark period at the end. It will probably be a week or two before you see any sign of any cloudy Trichs! In the mean time I would be very careful about of adding more P and K to your plants. I Don't know what the components of Cha-Ching are, so be cautious when using that stuff, or any more ferts, for that mater; you don't want more burned plants; which may mean harvesting early and compromising your crop!
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After 24 hours, all the plants that got cha-ching still look good. The kandy kush looks the same, seeing more burn spots on the exile even though it only got water. I'm going to give plain water at least one more time to those two, and take it from there. Might decide to give them only plain water from now on, might give them the same stuff as the other plants but at much lower doses...
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Ok, now I'm a little confused.
"I got one of those 60x-100x handheld scopes at Radio Shack, and I can see my trichs very well with it! Mostly clear, some cloudy already. Think I'm going to go to the cha-ching on tuesday, two weeks of that, then nothing but water until I have 30% amber or so."

"Took a real good look at the trichs today with my little scope, and they're clear."

Cha Ching Soluble Fertilizer (9-50-10) http://www.planetnatural.com/site/cha-ching.html
Beastie Bloomz® Soluble Fertilizer (0-50-30) http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/products_solgran1.html
http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/FoxFar ... hedule.pdf

Look at Necrosis and Spots. http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/tables_guide.php

My take on the CK and Exile - either continue what you are doing and wait for the trichomes to turn, as quoted above, or, don't add any more nutes and flush for two or three weeks, then harvest.

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Uncle Ron wrote:Ok, now I'm a little confused.
"I got one of those 60x-100x handheld scopes at Radio Shack, and I can see my trichs very well with it! Mostly clear, some cloudy already. Think I'm going to go to the cha-ching on tuesday, two weeks of that, then nothing but water until I have 30% amber or so."

"Took a real good look at the trichs today with my little scope, and they're clear."

Cha Ching Soluble Fertilizer (9-50-10) http://www.planetnatural.com/site/cha-ching.html
Beastie Bloomz® Soluble Fertilizer (0-50-30) http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/products_solgran1.html
http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/FoxFar ... hedule.pdf

Look at Necrosis and Spots. http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/tables_guide.php

My take on the CK and Exile - either continue what you are doing and wait for the trichomes to turn, as quoted above, or, don't add any more nutes and flush for two or three weeks, then harvest.

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What I was calling cloudy were really just blurry, I was getting used to the scope. I looked at pics on line and compared cloudy and clear pics with what I was looking at and realized I could get a much sharper look at 'em.
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If those two plants are looking worse today, then you should consider flushing them now, feed the next 2 waterings, then final flush in a few weeks.
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ZBeebs wrote: What I was calling cloudy were really just blurry, I was getting used to the scope. I looked at pics on line and compared cloudy and clear pics with what I was looking at and realized I could get a much sharper look at 'em.
Ok, that makes sense. Trial and error and all that.
What are your plans for the CK and Exile?

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Just fed them with bloom solution and 1/4 teaspoon cha ching, except the exile and kandy kush which got ph'ed water. I've decided that those two will get nothing but water from now on. The burning is all over the leaves on the exile and the leaves that curled up haven't uncurled at all, and are burned along the edges. I think I'm only going to feed the other plants for about another week, and then it's nothing but plain water until harvest. Funny thing about the kandy kush is I think it's the stickiest and is covered with trichs, even all over the curled up leaves. Maybe it's producing more as defense due to the stress?

The smell has become so strong that I could smell them outside the room so I added the Phresh filter. The current setup has the air in the tent pulled through the reflector, some ducting, then through the fan and through a short length of rigid ducting out the back of the tent and into the room. I ran a couple feet of flexible duct off the back of the tent to the floor, and into the carbon filter which just sits on the floor. The smell absolutely disappeared within seconds of sealing the ducting to the filter. It's amazing how effective it is, there is no trace of odor as long as the fan is going.

I don't run the fan with the lights off, so there is some odor during the day but it's not nearly as bad because it's not allowed to build up. Temps in my room are in the low 60's with the lights off, would running the fan 24/7 cause the temps to drop too much?
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The curling up of the leaves could quite well be due to the trikes on them, I think it's genetic as I see it all the time, my bubblecheese did it and that didn't have any issues with feeding and such.
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ZBeebs wrote: I don't run the fan with the lights off, so there is some odor during the day but it's not nearly as bad because it's not allowed to build up. Temps in my room are in the low 60's with the lights off, would running the fan 24/7 cause the temps to drop too much?
I was on the understanding that the plants need fresh air during the dark period too. Great grow mate, you'll soon be enjoying the fruits of your labour. :D
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I let the small fan inside the tent run 24/7, so there is some air circulation at all times.

Since I'm home today, I turned on the exhaust fan during their night to see how it would affect temps.

Just after I wrote the above sentence, I went downstairs to check temps to see how far they've dropped. THE LIGHTS WERE ON!! When I unplugged the fan from the timer, I must have hit the switch and bypassed the timer, turning the lights on. Normal lights off time is 6am to 6pm, it's 2:15pm now and they were probably on at least two hours. I turned lights off, and they will come back on at the normal time, in less than 4 hours. DAMNIT, I'm always screwing something up!! I hope this doesn't make them hermie on me! If anyone thinks I should change the timing of lights now because of this, please say so ASAP!

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Ok, so this is what happens when I'm in Amsterdam over the weekend.

The light issue - stay on schedule. Don't do it again. :shock: :)

You might want to seriously consider cutting the necrotic leaves. They really aren't doing much except dying, and catching the occasional trichome, which other leaves can do just as well. If so, take the leaves that you cut and place them in a paper bag. Let them dry for a few days and smoke it. I recommend using a bong unless you like it raw. You could try to remove the trichomes with screening but that may be more of a hassle than it's worth. You have options.

Besides the aforementioned leaves, the plants are looking really good. You should have a nice first crop, as long as you QUIT FUCKING UP! :shock: :lol: :wink:

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