Hi all
I would like to ask for some advice.
Me and my wife are regular smokers, and visit the dam as often as possible. (Couple of times a year)
Unfortunately my wife has given up smoking tobacco that is, but it is too risky to smoke cannabis, so we enjoy ingesting in the form of chocolate homemade using hash. But unfortunately I am finding it more difficult to find good quality hash.
Therefore I would like to find other alternative methods and thought about a vaporizer. So could any of you in the know suggest a good model and supplier
I look forward to your response.
Vaporizers
Volcano is the most common answer i would of thought but IMHO i would not touch one again. Mine was okay for year 1 then the second year has been a nightmare. It stopped blowing i had it repaired it then packed up again 2 weeks later, it was repaired again and sold to some unfortunate person on e-bay (Sorry). It was away for 6weeks both times so over the time i had it i never used it for 3 months as it was travelling.
I am looking into a Verdamper hopefully after christmas once i have sorted out a room to keep it safe in.
I am looking into a Verdamper hopefully after christmas once i have sorted out a room to keep it safe in.
Hey Nick,
The Volcano Classic is a great Vaporizer. It is one of the best selling vaporizers on the market. In my opinion, it would be a fantastic investment for safe smoking accessories.
However, I myself would like to get a feel to an unfamiliar product. I would go with something cheaper. I'd suggest a original Vapor Tower. Easy to use, hassle free. The 100% ceramic heater will last forever, I can guarantee that.
It goes for $115.00 (USD). The best price I've found. Gotvape.com sells this item for $199.
Treating Yourself Magazine calls VaporTower the best selling vape under $200.
As for the Volcano. I haven't used but it is said to be "brilliant," says a friend of mine. It is "Top-of-the-line German engineering." The Volcano Classic is $430 (USD). The Volcabo Digit goes for $530.
I need to re look both Volcano prices as prices are. Subject to change!
The Vapor Tower is $115 and all items come with a free grinder.
But listen what others say, the Iolite is a beauty and the VaporBox rules too, I've tried both of these. All accept the Volcanos, but this thread could or will be a great place to blossom my business.
(Note) things are still up in the air.
The more business the lower the prices will go, regards,
(>-)
-Food
The Volcano Classic is a great Vaporizer. It is one of the best selling vaporizers on the market. In my opinion, it would be a fantastic investment for safe smoking accessories.
However, I myself would like to get a feel to an unfamiliar product. I would go with something cheaper. I'd suggest a original Vapor Tower. Easy to use, hassle free. The 100% ceramic heater will last forever, I can guarantee that.
It goes for $115.00 (USD). The best price I've found. Gotvape.com sells this item for $199.
Treating Yourself Magazine calls VaporTower the best selling vape under $200.
As for the Volcano. I haven't used but it is said to be "brilliant," says a friend of mine. It is "Top-of-the-line German engineering." The Volcano Classic is $430 (USD). The Volcabo Digit goes for $530.
I need to re look both Volcano prices as prices are. Subject to change!
The Vapor Tower is $115 and all items come with a free grinder.
But listen what others say, the Iolite is a beauty and the VaporBox rules too, I've tried both of these. All accept the Volcanos, but this thread could or will be a great place to blossom my business.
(Note) things are still up in the air.
The more business the lower the prices will go, regards,
(>-)
-Food
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verdampere is an awesome piece, but as iv said over priced. for maybe 150-200 £ less you could get a glass on glass bong, a vapor brothers vape and a glass on glass vape to bong fixture ant its essentially the same thing. not trying to take away from the verdamper though..its fucking awesome..just trying to give a fellow acd'er a cheaper option. enjoy your possible new vape!.Kermit wrote:Volcano is the most common answer i would of thought but IMHO i would not touch one again. Mine was okay for year 1 then the second year has been a nightmare. It stopped blowing i had it repaired it then packed up again 2 weeks later, it was repaired again and sold to some unfortunate person on e-bay (Sorry). It was away for 6weeks both times so over the time i had it i never used it for 3 months as it was travelling.
I am looking into a Verdamper hopefully after christmas once i have sorted out a room to keep it safe in.
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If you haven't already, head to http://www.fuckcombustion.com/, you'll find a LOT of good info there to digest.
There are many different types of vaporizers around, each has its own strengths. So you'll have to decide what your needs are, as there isn't really a 'best' vaporizer for everybody. For example, the Volcano IS a great product, but some people just don't enjoy inhaling from a plastic bag. Personally I'm ok with the bags, but I do prefer hitting a glass piece like a Verdamper, Herborizer etc.
You also have to consider the physical size/shape of the vaporizer, as some can be pretty large and complicated, while others are neat and simple. Some have external temperature control boxes or air pumps, which adds more 'bits' to worry about and more cables to plug in. Ask yourself if you'll ever want to put it in a backpack and carry it to your friends place. Obviously the big glass models would be out of the question.
If you want something portable to use on the go, I can recommend the MFLB (Magic Flight Launch Box) or the Iolite. But for home use you are better off with something mains-powered, so you're not always changing the batteries/gas.
Best thing you can do, read as much from that site as you can, learn from others experiences.
There are many different types of vaporizers around, each has its own strengths. So you'll have to decide what your needs are, as there isn't really a 'best' vaporizer for everybody. For example, the Volcano IS a great product, but some people just don't enjoy inhaling from a plastic bag. Personally I'm ok with the bags, but I do prefer hitting a glass piece like a Verdamper, Herborizer etc.
You also have to consider the physical size/shape of the vaporizer, as some can be pretty large and complicated, while others are neat and simple. Some have external temperature control boxes or air pumps, which adds more 'bits' to worry about and more cables to plug in. Ask yourself if you'll ever want to put it in a backpack and carry it to your friends place. Obviously the big glass models would be out of the question.
If you want something portable to use on the go, I can recommend the MFLB (Magic Flight Launch Box) or the Iolite. But for home use you are better off with something mains-powered, so you're not always changing the batteries/gas.
Best thing you can do, read as much from that site as you can, learn from others experiences.
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Yep, I've got one. You just charge the batteries with a normal AA charger.Adamster wrote:Anyone tried or have the Launch Box ? How does it work to recharge a Batery?and the vape how is it?
check this thread...
https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... highlight=
HI folks, i'm sorry to ask what is a pretty sudjective question here, which i know has been covered variously here, but i'm in a bit of a pickle and suffering from an over load of information 
I'm going to buy a vapourizer but i'm being put off by all the conflicting information. I don't mind spending the money for something a bit special but i really don't have the money to waste if it all goes tits up, which i have to say is usually the case for me. I'm blessed with the anti-Midus touch, with it all turning to shit.
I really fancied the "Super Vapezilla" which bonglord mentioned, which is expensive, but i've read that the "Wicked Roots" people are not very helpful once they have your money, no warranty, the machine is now out sourced and made in "China" and there seems to be a lot of complaints about the ceramic heating element being changed from the earlier model from a single hole to a multi-hole!?!?
The "Volcano" comes in for a fair amount of stick as well, the bag gives problems, some like it, some don't(you'd think it was a condom with the seriousness of the debate
) some said it was more of a party thing, the bag, not the condom!
I've checked out the "Da Buddah", the "Vapofection", the "Silver Surfer" and many more to get me more confused.
The truth is a friend of a friend has a grow show about ready and with luck me and the pal could be in line for a few ounces. I'm in the position of needing this to last til something else "Happens!", or i get a trip to the "Dam". The alternative being "soapbar" and lungs fucked up so i can't enjoy a smoke in the future
So all suggestions welcome.
I'm going to buy a vapourizer but i'm being put off by all the conflicting information. I don't mind spending the money for something a bit special but i really don't have the money to waste if it all goes tits up, which i have to say is usually the case for me. I'm blessed with the anti-Midus touch, with it all turning to shit.
I really fancied the "Super Vapezilla" which bonglord mentioned, which is expensive, but i've read that the "Wicked Roots" people are not very helpful once they have your money, no warranty, the machine is now out sourced and made in "China" and there seems to be a lot of complaints about the ceramic heating element being changed from the earlier model from a single hole to a multi-hole!?!?
The "Volcano" comes in for a fair amount of stick as well, the bag gives problems, some like it, some don't(you'd think it was a condom with the seriousness of the debate
) some said it was more of a party thing, the bag, not the condom!I've checked out the "Da Buddah", the "Vapofection", the "Silver Surfer" and many more to get me more confused.
The truth is a friend of a friend has a grow show about ready and with luck me and the pal could be in line for a few ounces. I'm in the position of needing this to last til something else "Happens!", or i get a trip to the "Dam". The alternative being "soapbar" and lungs fucked up so i can't enjoy a smoke in the future
So all suggestions welcome.
hey artymac, I'll give you as much advice as I can, vaporizers are getting to be a hobby for me 
I'm familiar lots of different brands/models (got friends at a headshop, yaaaaayyy!)
Just asking so I can help with recommendations. Glass can be easy to break, I consider myself careful but have broken a few (cheap-ish) glass pieces over the years, its inevitable. Massively stoned people and fragile glass objects don't mix
But if you can do it, glass vaporizers are the connoisseurs choice, glass doesn't have any taste like metal or plastic, so theoretically the vapor is more pure from glass. This is debatable, because there are some respected vapes like the Volcano, Herbalaire, Silver Surfer etc which don't seem to impart any flavors from their non-glass materials.
One of the best glass models around is the Verdamper, made in Holland. I thought about buying one for years, but eventually got the similar Herborizer instead - its smaller, has a temperature control, and is more refined. I think the Verdamper is amazing, but its a little big and cumbersome which means easily broken (as I've witnessed in a coffeeshop, unfortunately). And no heat control, which is really good to have. The Herborizer heating element is compatible with glass bongs, so for example you can put together a lovely Roor-based vaporizer (drool)
I would have to say that water/ice cooled vapor from a glass piece is the best of them all, as far as flavor and effects go.
About the Vapofection, I think it also seems really pricy for what it is.
Stay away from Vapir, they are again extremely overpriced, and you'll find a high percentage of bad reviews on the web. I know someone who had to put tape over some joints etc to stop the leakage. Many people complain about the plastic taste, and some have even resorted to putting essential oils in the bowl to mask it. Fuck. That. Shit. I have handled a few of their products. Very cheap and plastic-y, felt like a battery operated toy.
Anyway, hope this all helps... let us know what models you narrow it down to.
I'm familiar lots of different brands/models (got friends at a headshop, yaaaaayyy!)Are you saying that you have a tendency to break stuff, like fragile glass? Or did you mean that when the device is too complicated, you run into trouble...?artymac wrote: I'm blessed with the anti-Midus touch, with it all turning to shit.
Just asking so I can help with recommendations. Glass can be easy to break, I consider myself careful but have broken a few (cheap-ish) glass pieces over the years, its inevitable. Massively stoned people and fragile glass objects don't mix
But if you can do it, glass vaporizers are the connoisseurs choice, glass doesn't have any taste like metal or plastic, so theoretically the vapor is more pure from glass. This is debatable, because there are some respected vapes like the Volcano, Herbalaire, Silver Surfer etc which don't seem to impart any flavors from their non-glass materials.One of the best glass models around is the Verdamper, made in Holland. I thought about buying one for years, but eventually got the similar Herborizer instead - its smaller, has a temperature control, and is more refined. I think the Verdamper is amazing, but its a little big and cumbersome which means easily broken (as I've witnessed in a coffeeshop, unfortunately). And no heat control, which is really good to have. The Herborizer heating element is compatible with glass bongs, so for example you can put together a lovely Roor-based vaporizer (drool)
I would have to say that water/ice cooled vapor from a glass piece is the best of them all, as far as flavor and effects go.
I've never seen or used a Super Vapezilla, so can't comment on how well it works. But looking at the features, it does seem a little pricey for what you get, esp if its indeed made in China. Their website is also very 'BUY NOW', without much info about the products. For me thats a stop sign. Like you said, I also found some bad stories about the product and the company - http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=43artymac wrote:I really fancied the "Super Vapezilla" which bonglord mentioned, which is expensive, but i've read that the "Wicked Roots" people are not very helpful once they have your money, no warranty, the machine is now out sourced and made in "China" and there seems to be a lot of complaints about the ceramic heating element being changed from the earlier model from a single hole to a multi-hole!?!?
I do think the Volcano produces some of the best quality vapor, but you have to consume it quickly, as the vapor loses potency/flavor the longer you leave it. You can see this yourself by letting a full bag of vapor just sit there on the table, eventually you'll see golden droplets of oil collecting on the inside of the bag. The bags can be cool, as you can pick it up, walk around, pass it etc. But I usually like the 'direct draw' type of vaporizers (you draw from a glass mouthpiece or a whip). Some vaporizers can do both bags and direct draw, like the Herbalaire and the Arizer Extreme Q. Both of those are very good choices by the way.artymac wrote: The "Volcano" comes in for a fair amount of stick as well, the bag gives problems, some like it, some don't(you'd think it was a condom with the seriousness of the debate
Da Buddha beats the Silver Surfer in my opinion, its made by the same company in the USA, and its cheaper. I think the SS is a hassle, because you have to physically hold the wand against the heater while you draw. The wand/tube can't be attached to the main unit. Your other hand is holding the mouthpiece, meaning you need both hands to use it. When you're done you have to put the wand/tube down somewhere, not spill the herb etc. With Da Buddha the wand attaches to the heater, so you only need one hand free to hold the mouthpiece. You can also go handsfree, if you hold the mouthpiece in your lips.artymac wrote: I've checked out the "Da Buddah", the "Vapofection", the "Silver Surfer" and many more to get me more confused.
About the Vapofection, I think it also seems really pricy for what it is.
Stay away from Vapir, they are again extremely overpriced, and you'll find a high percentage of bad reviews on the web. I know someone who had to put tape over some joints etc to stop the leakage. Many people complain about the plastic taste, and some have even resorted to putting essential oils in the bowl to mask it. Fuck. That. Shit. I have handled a few of their products. Very cheap and plastic-y, felt like a battery operated toy.
Anyway, hope this all helps... let us know what models you narrow it down to.