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Posted: Wed 3rd Nov 2010 06:14 pm
by donpacino
here is another story on this topic, seems like this topic is hotting up again afer a quiet month.

http://www.gadling.com/2010/11/03/dutch ... crackdown/

Posted: Wed 3rd Nov 2010 07:05 pm
by macca187
Makes me laugh all these Muslims complaining.don't move to a fucking country where you don't agree with there way of life.simple stay in your own fucking shit hole country where you agree with the laws.

Posted: Wed 3rd Nov 2010 11:11 pm
by Conkers
macca187 wrote:Makes me laugh all these Muslims complaining.don't move to a fucking country where you don't agree with there way of life.simple stay in your own fucking shit hole country where you agree with the laws.
I agree.

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 06:59 am
by Marco
Man, so much CHICKEN LITTLE and other bullshit in the this thread.

I may sound like a dick here, but donpacino, please stop finding random articles that are simply the same re-written bullshit (written by a 'journalist' who has ever set foot in Amsterdam) on some foreign website and acting like it means something is heating up.

FFS, what Galding.com what do they know that none of the national papers or TV know.

Whatever new laws they are considering WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL 2011 if ever!

And Pauli, you are usually spot on but to take an AT5 report you admittedly could not understand, and turn it into Muslims don't like CS is again, ridiculous. Please show me a link to a single Muslim organization against CSs? FFS, a good portion of CS are OWNED by Muslims.

Rant over, and no offense intended but you all have gotta read what people like Roker said and calm down.
:shock:

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 07:07 am
by Marco
happydaze777 wrote:This government looks set to ban the Burka (are you really surprised they want to close coffeeshops?), and talks about closing coffeeshops not only because of drug tourism and the problems it brings to boarder towns, but also because of a pacived problem of Muslim youth using the coffeeshops:shock: ?!!

I am amazed a few months after finally moving to this country of tolerance, it swings so far to the right. But maybe this is to do with judging a country on my experiences in Amsterdam? I am beginning to think Amsterdam should be a country all of its own... IMO, The Dutch are actually not that tolerant at all, and Christian politics has a huge influence in this country. :(

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2 ... all_ca.php
Welcome to reality! NL was NEVER tolerant and has always been strongly Christian party. It has always had a few extreme right Christian parties with seats in Parliament. The ironic thing, these parties are often driving some progress on things that seem 'tolerant' such as asylum for refugees, etc.

It is an illusion that the Dutch were ever tolerant. They are practical, big difference and to a large degree, simply don't give a shit if you smoke weed, get gay married and all that stuff. This has been historically a way to survive as a small country that is full of different people from all over.

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 07:22 am
by donpacino
Marco wrote:Man, so much CHICKEN LITTLE and other bullshit in the this thread.

I may sound like a dick here, but donpacino, please stop finding random articles that are simply the same re-written bullshit (written by a 'journalist' who has ever set foot in Amsterdam) on some foreign website and acting like it means something is heating up.

FFS, what Galding.com what do they know that none of the national papers or TV know.

Whatever new laws they are considering WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL 2011 if ever!

And Pauli, you are usually spot on but to take an AT5 report you admittedly could not understand, and turn it into Muslims don't like CS is again, ridiculous. Please show me a link to a single Muslim organization against CSs? FFS, a good portion of CS are OWNED by Muslims.

Rant over, and no offense intended but you all have gotta read what people like Roker said and calm down.
:shock:
You are right, you do sound like a dick, just beacuse u may not want to read it, it doesnt mean other people dont, i was under the impression this was a forum that allowed free speech, and 2011 is less than 2 months away so in my book that is quiet soon, if these changes could take place in the next 6 months then maybe people who dont read/watch the news would like to stay up to date on the situation so they can get to arrange trips over there etc.

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 07:34 am
by Marco
donpacino wrote:
Marco wrote:Man, so much CHICKEN LITTLE and other bullshit in the this thread.

I may sound like a dick here, but donpacino, please stop finding random articles that are simply the same re-written bullshit (written by a 'journalist' who has ever set foot in Amsterdam) on some foreign website and acting like it means something is heating up.

FFS, what Galding.com what do they know that none of the national papers or TV know.

Whatever new laws they are considering WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL 2011 if ever!

And Pauli, you are usually spot on but to take an AT5 report you admittedly could not understand, and turn it into Muslims don't like CS is again, ridiculous. Please show me a link to a single Muslim organization against CSs? FFS, a good portion of CS are OWNED by Muslims.

Rant over, and no offense intended but you all have gotta read what people like Roker said and calm down.
:shock:
You are right, you do sound like a dick, just beacuse u may not want to read it, it doesnt mean other people dont, i was under the impression this was a forum that allowed free speech, and 2011 is less than 2 months away so in my book that is quiet soon, if these changes could take place in the next 6 months then maybe people who dont read/watch the news would like to stay up to date on the situation so they can get to arrange trips over there etc.
Yes, but you are doing just the opposite. You just posted a link from AOL and you act like its news? Get off your ass and read some Dutch political sites (use Google translate, I do) if you really want to drive the conversation and inform people.

What exactly about the link you just posted says things are 'heating up' here????

The article you posted was by some travel writing sitting in the US. Def. follow his advice when planning you next drug-holiday here, and don't read the local news. :roll:

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 07:37 am
by Marco
And please, a rant about free speech when someone questions your sources for 'breaking news'? Grow a pair man.

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 07:40 am
by Marco

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 05:52 pm
by Marco
Donpacino, I appreciate your enthusiasm! Peace

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 07:32 pm
by Pauli Wallnuts
happydaze777 wrote:that the current anti Islam slant of lots of European counties does not have any more negative impact on the cannabis campaign.
:lol: not sure about the nederlands, but being muslim in england is now benefit, e.g metropolitan police will now fast track ethnic minorities rise up the ranks, hows this fair?, the very minorities who HAVE worked hard to get their are now percieved as not deserving their position, same with becoming a black cab driver, theirs programs set up by the former tosser (ken livingstone) which makes it easier for minorities to pass the knowledge, a case a couple years back was interesting, a jewish guy tried to get onto the program, & was told no because he was not a minority, even though theirs a MUCH larger muslim population than jewish in london,
also belive it or not if i owned a shop & wanted to advertise for a job, i could legally request 'No Whites or Christians' but if i requested 'No Blacks or Muslims' i would be taken to court & sued for every penny i got, now i would obviously never want to make such a request as its rascist, but it just proves my point that its ok to discriminate as long as its against whites & christians,
theirs lots of minorities who also see things like this as the reason behind rascism making a comeback & the bnp's rise,
now before anyone gets all excited im a greek cypriot (christian) & some of my families best friends are turkish cypriot (muslim) we dont see no difference, it seems that the only people who see a difference & want to cause problems are usually, do gooders who are for the most atheists (not saying all) but please stop labelling all christians as right wing, pro war bible bashers from alabama, most christians look at them as nutters,
&just remember that when it comes to being right wing & conservative, it dont matter if your christian, muslim, jewish, hindu, sikh, buddhist (have i forgot any1? :lol: ) they will always have more in common with eachover than with the likes of us who want stuff like cannabis legalised,
peace, shalom, salam, santi, aman, amaithi :)

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 08:55 pm
by TwoCanucks
I laugh at 'white people' complaining about reverse discrimination.

Visible minorities have been discriminated against since the beginning of time.

Now there's an effort 'level the playing field' by advancing those who've been held back for thousands of years.

And what's that, white people don't like it?????

Tough... deal with the cards you've been dealt and quit complainin...

unless you have a couple thousand years to sit around and wait for it to change.

Posted: Thu 4th Nov 2010 10:17 pm
by Pauli Wallnuts
TwoCanucks wrote:I laugh at 'white people' complaining about reverse discrimination.

Visible minorities have been discriminated against since the beginning of time.

Now there's an effort 'level the playing field' by advancing those who've been held back for thousands of years.

And what's that, white people don't like it?????

Tough... deal with the cards you've been dealt and quit complainin...

unless you have a couple thousand years to sit around and wait for it to change.

please confirm, its ok to be rascist? :shock: