11.11.11 lest we forget no surrender

[Marco]

If you all will indulge me with some personal information.



Photo of my father's unit, the 89th Infantry Division, Patton's 3rd Army crossing the Rhine at St. Goar.



Tanks attached to his Division, about to engage the remnants of a Waffen SS unit, March 1945.



My dad's unit was the first to liberate a concentration camp on the western front. Here, the towns people of Ohrdruf were all forced to make through the camp the following day after its liberation by the 89th. My dad passed this year, but I remember the story perfectly. After being forced to walk through the camp, the mayor of Ohrdruf and his wife went home and committed suicide.



My dad, about to ship out to France. RIP

[Iko]

maybe you should tell that to the relatives of contractors and aid workers that have been tortured and beheaded by the ragheads iko, or tell it to the toms that have had limbs blown off in afgha

Did you really just say "raghead" ?
Ok, im out of my depth here, some of you are reading too many of those crazy UK newspapers.
Nice to see bigotry is still flourishing in the world with this generation .

[Iko]

Marco, thanks for sharing those pictures.
You could probobly write an amazing book about his life.
That was quite the generation.

[Marco]

"the japs were inhuman in their treatment of American pows."

Of all days, we really should not be slinging that kind of shit today.
Canadian, American and UK troops are ALL breaking the rules in respect to the treatment of enemy combatants.
How are all our "secret torture prisons" any different then 1945 ?

I disagree. The enormous scale of the war crimes committed by the Japanese army and navy are in no way similar to the handful of illegal, and unfortunate, prisons run by the CIA today. The Japanese systematically tortured, starved, beat and murdered 100,000s of allied soldiers.

This simply cannot be compared to Guantanamo.

[Marco]

Marco, thanks for sharing those pictures.
You could probobly write an amazing book about his life.
That was quite the generation.

Thanks. Actually he wrote his memoirs of the war. The funny part, more than half it was about all the girls he met (seriously tons, lol..). Shit they were all 18, 19 or 20 back then, just kids. None of them had ever been outside of the US, then within a year they were fighting the Germans.

[cantona7]

Hey....this thread is for honor...lets keep it this way. You guys are not debating anything to do with honoring those who do what 99% of us would not and could not do (with the exception of any ACD vets).

Debate is fine, but on another thread perhaps?

my apologies marco i wont add anymore,your right. you seem to be quite knowledgeable on ww2 man. i am as well. maybe if your not busy we can meet on my next dam trip next month for a toke n talk and you could let me pick your brain a bit.

and respect to your dad man. i'd imagine what he saw stayed with him the rest of his life.

[Marco]

Hey....this thread is for honor...lets keep it this way. You guys are not debating anything to do with honoring those who do what 99% of us would not and could not do (with the exception of any ACD vets).

Debate is fine, but on another thread perhaps?

my apologies marco i wont add anymore,your right. you seem to be quite knowledgeable on ww2 man. i am as well. maybe if your not bust we can meet on my next dam trip next month for a toke and you could let me pick your brain a bit.

and respect to your dad man. i'd imagine what he saw stayed with him the rest of his life.

No worries....yes I have always been hugely into WWII history, since I was really young.

Yes, it did stay with him. But he was happy to talk about it, he felt it was important for people to know...lest we forget.

[cantona7]

Hey....this thread is for honor...lets keep it this way. You guys are not debating anything to do with honoring those who do what 99% of us would not and could not do (with the exception of any ACD vets).

Debate is fine, but on another thread perhaps?

my apologies marco i wont add anymore,your right. you seem to be quite knowledgeable on ww2 man. i am as well. maybe if your not bust we can meet on my next dam trip next month for a toke and you could let me pick your brain a bit.

and respect to your dad man. i'd imagine what he saw stayed with him the rest of his life.

No worries....yes I have always been hugely into WWII history, since I was really young.

Yes, it did stay with him. But he was happy to talk about it, he felt it was important for people to know...lest we forget.

iv also been interested since a yougn age. my parents(mainly my mom) educated me on the horrors of ww2 /the holacaust from a very early age. toured the imperial war museum when i was about 8 and it just stuck. taking a class on ww2 right now(history major) . iv got a lot of pics too. was trying to find my grandpa's squadron book the other day as a matter a fact...still haven't found it.

[Marco]

my apologies marco i wont add anymore,your right. you seem to be quite knowledgeable on ww2 man. i am as well. maybe if your not bust we can meet on my next dam trip next month for a toke and you could let me pick your brain a bit.

and respect to your dad man. i'd imagine what he saw stayed with him the rest of his life.

No worries....yes I have always been hugely into WWII history, since I was really young.

Yes, it did stay with him. But he was happy to talk about it, he felt it was important for people to know...lest we forget.

iv also been interested since a yougn age. my parents(mainly my mom) educated me on the horrors of ww2 /the holacaust from a very early age. toured the imperial war museum when i was about 8 and it just stuck. taking a class on ww2 right now(history major) . iv got a lot of pics too. was trying to find my grandpa's squadron book the other day as a matter a fact...still haven't found it.

Let's get together when you are in town. There is a WWII tour self-guided walking I would like to take. I know nothing about the war in NL.

[cantona7]

No worries....yes I have always been hugely into WWII history, since I was really young.

Yes, it did stay with him. But he was happy to talk about it, he felt it was important for people to know...lest we forget.

iv also been interested since a yougn age. my parents(mainly my mom) educated me on the horrors of ww2 /the holacaust from a very early age. toured the imperial war museum when i was about 8 and it just stuck. taking a class on ww2 right now(history major) . iv got a lot of pics too. was trying to find my grandpa's squadron book the other day as a matter a fact...still haven't found it.

Let's get together when you are in town. There is a WWII tour self-guided walking I would like to take. I know nothing about the war in NL.

sounds good man. i'll pm you the info as to when im in town.

[HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe]

Marco, thanks for sharing those pictures.
You could probobly write an amazing book about his life.
That was quite the generation.

Thanks. Actually he wrote his memoirs of the war. The funny part, more than half it was about all the girls he met (seriously tons, lol..). Shit they were all 18, 19 or 20 back then, just kids. None of them had ever been outside of the US, then within a year they were fighting the Germans.

LOL them horny fucking yanks over here taking our women. Big respect to your father Marco, those guys sacrifice should never be forgotten.

[cantona7]

Marco, thanks for sharing those pictures.
You could probobly write an amazing book about his life.
That was quite the generation.

Thanks. Actually he wrote his memoirs of the war. The funny part, more than half it was about all the girls he met (seriously tons, lol..). Shit they were all 18, 19 or 20 back then, just kids. None of them had ever been outside of the US, then within a year they were fighting the Germans.

LOL them horny fucking yanks over here taking our women. Big respect to your father Marco, those guys sacrifice should never be forgotten.

funny thing is my nana met my grandfather(not like that) in england. she was english and my grandfather was an american airman working at kimbolton.(sp?) they got married and stayed together for like 60 years.imagine there were a lot of cases like that.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Hey....this thread is for honor...lets keep it this way. You guys are not debating anything to do with honoring those who do what 99% of us would not and could not do (with the exception of any ACD vets).

Debate is fine, but on another thread perhaps?

what better way to honor than to enact the freedoms that they died for....

Just a thought?

[Iko]

Hey....this thread is for honor...lets keep it this way. You guys are not debating anything to do with honoring those who do what 99% of us would not and could not do (with the exception of any ACD vets).

Debate is fine, but on another thread perhaps?

what better way to honor than to enact the freedoms that they died for....

Just a thought?

WOW, nailed that one out of the park.
Exactly right.

[Dimon]

I just wanna say that my Russian grandfather(dedushka) he was at WWII and i really liked to listen his all different kinds of stories, he was at engineering forces.Now my american grandfather-in law he was at the same war too,on the same side(thank,s god) maybe they even met.My grandfather he was pretty cool.