Up in smoke! Dutch to ban tourists from buying pot

[Marco]

http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/52496/amste ... offeeshops

TY. After reading some of the comments it is actually kinda sad.

From what it looks to me(and it could be that I am being misled by Google Translate) some of the commenters seem to want Amsterdam to be Paris or Milan. Below is one example.

The actual comment can be found here(but here is the translated version)

See the problem is not so. We can smelly tourists from the tourist traps do away in Amsterdam .. Amsterdam wants all year 'quality' red carpet stories, 1012 stuff ... And now crying that the people of the stinking sewers of Europe has just crept welcome .. Lafhartige hypocrisie.. Cowardly hypocrisy ..

Zie het probleem niet zo. We kunnen die stinkende toeristen die uit die toeristen fuiken missen als kiespijn in Amsterdam.. Amsterdam wil al jaren 'kwaliteit', rode loper verhalen, 1012 gedoe... En nu piepen dat dat stink volk dat uit de riolen van Europa is gekropen gewoon welkom is.. Lafhartige hypocrisie..

The problem I see with that is that most of the market for high end goods evaporated with the economy went *POP*(if you would like I can get a few links to back that up). Difficult to sell stuff that there isn't a market for anymore.

My experience with Google translate (and I use it for work) is that is fails miserable in those comment sections, the true point does not come across at all. But for well-written articles, it works great.

[donpacino]

http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/52496/amste ... offeeshops

TY. After reading some of the comments it is actually kinda sad.

From what it looks to me(and it could be that I am being misled by Google Translate) some of the commenters seem to want Amsterdam to be Paris or Milan. Below is one example.

The actual comment can be found here(but here is the translated version)

See the problem is not so. We can smelly tourists from the tourist traps do away in Amsterdam .. Amsterdam wants all year 'quality' red carpet stories, 1012 stuff ... And now crying that the people of the stinking sewers of Europe has just crept welcome .. Lafhartige hypocrisie.. Cowardly hypocrisy ..

Zie het probleem niet zo. We kunnen die stinkende toeristen die uit die toeristen fuiken missen als kiespijn in Amsterdam.. Amsterdam wil al jaren 'kwaliteit', rode loper verhalen, 1012 gedoe... En nu piepen dat dat stink volk dat uit de riolen van Europa is gekropen gewoon welkom is.. Lafhartige hypocrisie..

The problem I see with that is that most of the market for high end goods evaporated with the economy went *POP*(if you would like I can get a few links to back that up). Difficult to sell stuff that there isn't a market for anymore.

Can someone copy and paste the text of this article on here please, im on my mobile and for some reason i cant access the web pages. Thanks

[puffpuffgive]

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2 ... dam_in.php
worrying stuff

[donpacino]

http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/52496/amste ... offeeshops

TY. After reading some of the comments it is actually kinda sad.

From what it looks to me(and it could be that I am being misled by Google Translate) some of the commenters seem to want Amsterdam to be Paris or Milan. Below is one example.

The actual comment can be found here(but here is the translated version)

See the problem is not so. We can smelly tourists from the tourist traps do away in Amsterdam .. Amsterdam wants all year 'quality' red carpet stories, 1012 stuff ... And now crying that the people of the stinking sewers of Europe has just crept welcome .. Lafhartige hypocrisie.. Cowardly hypocrisy ..

Zie het probleem niet zo. We kunnen die stinkende toeristen die uit die toeristen fuiken missen als kiespijn in Amsterdam.. Amsterdam wil al jaren 'kwaliteit', rode loper verhalen, 1012 gedoe... En nu piepen dat dat stink volk dat uit de riolen van Europa is gekropen gewoon welkom is.. Lafhartige hypocrisie..

The problem I see with that is that most of the market for high end goods evaporated with the economy went *POP*(if you would like I can get a few links to back that up). Difficult to sell stuff that there isn't a market for anymore.

Can someone copy and paste the text of this article on here please, im on my mobile and for some reason i cant access the web pages. Thanks

Anyone!!!!!!!!!!

[Boner]

A'dam botst met Den Haag over coffeeshops

Amsterdam is tegen het plan van het nieuwe kabinet voor een pasjessysteem voor coffeeshops.

De maatregelen van het Rijk voor coffeeshops zullen in Amsterdam alleen maar problemen opleveren. Daarvoor waarschuwt Burgemeester Eberhard van der Laan.

Het kabinet wil alle coffeeshops sluiten die in een straal van 350 meter van een school zitten. Daarnaast moet er een pasjessysteem komen voor bezoekers. Volgens Van der Laan werkt dit juist averechts omdat hierdoor de de drugshandel op straat zal toenemen. Hij wil daarom snel met het Rijk om tafel.

Minister van Justitie, Ivo Opstelten heeft al laten weten geen uitzondering te willen maken voor Amsterdam. De nieuwe regels gelden wat hem betreft voor heel Nederland.



Amsterdam clashes with Hague over coffee shops

Amsterdam is the plan of the new cabinet for a pass system for coffee shops.

The measures of the Empire of coffee shops in Amsterdam will only cause problems. Before warns Mayor Eberhard van der Laan.

The government wants to close all coffee shops in a radius of 350 meters of a school. In addition, a pass system for visitors. According to Van der Laan, is counterproductive because it does this drug trafficking on the street will increase. He therefore wants the government to table quickly.

Minister of Justice, Ivo has already said would make no exception for Amsterdam. The new rules apply to it for the entire Netherlands.

[donpacino]

A'dam botst met Den Haag over coffeeshops

Amsterdam is tegen het plan van het nieuwe kabinet voor een pasjessysteem voor coffeeshops.

De maatregelen van het Rijk voor coffeeshops zullen in Amsterdam alleen maar problemen opleveren. Daarvoor waarschuwt Burgemeester Eberhard van der Laan.

Het kabinet wil alle coffeeshops sluiten die in een straal van 350 meter van een school zitten. Daarnaast moet er een pasjessysteem komen voor bezoekers. Volgens Van der Laan werkt dit juist averechts omdat hierdoor de de drugshandel op straat zal toenemen. Hij wil daarom snel met het Rijk om tafel.

Minister van Justitie, Ivo Opstelten heeft al laten weten geen uitzondering te willen maken voor Amsterdam. De nieuwe regels gelden wat hem betreft voor heel Nederland.



Amsterdam clashes with Hague over coffee shops

Amsterdam is the plan of the new cabinet for a pass system for coffee shops.

The measures of the Empire of coffee shops in Amsterdam will only cause problems. Before warns Mayor Eberhard van der Laan.

The government wants to close all coffee shops in a radius of 350 meters of a school. In addition, a pass system for visitors. According to Van der Laan, is counterproductive because it does this drug trafficking on the street will increase. He therefore wants the government to table quickly.
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Minister of Justice, Ivo has already said would make no exception for Amsterdam. The new rules apply to it for the entire Netherlands.

Thanks for that.

Sounds like the government will definately have battle on there hands over this, the coffee shops and cities arent gonna just roll over take it, im starting to get the feeling this may drag on for years to come.

[SGawain235]

Thanks for that.

Sounds like the government will definately have battle on there hands over this, the coffee shops and cities arent gonna just roll over take it, im starting to get the feeling this may drag on for years to come.

Now that I agree with. Of course, if I were them I'd pump cash out of the stoners as long as I could as the US is getting closer and closer to legalization. However, as it stands now it looks like Amsterdam is going to go back and forth until we legalize it over here.

[smokseyj]

If the US legalises weed, do you think the UK will follow?

[donpacino]

If the US legalises weed, do you think the UK will follow?

YES YES YES YES

[SGawain235]

If the US legalises weed, do you think the UK will follow?

Given time, quite possibly. The thing is that the US puts a LOT of pressure on other countries to keep weed illegal. What I think is going to happen is a lot like what happened with medical MJ. Please note that what is below is 100% speculation based on how things shook out with medical MJ. I could easily be VERY WRONG.

A state in the US is going to make marijuana legal in the same way that alcohol is illegal. The federal government is going to have an aneuryism and sue and bust and freak out. The problem is that(much like in the early 20th century) the feds don't have enough resources to bust all the pot smokers in a state. Time will pass and the world won't come crashing to an end. This will be the primary fulcrum of the argument to legalize in other states. This will happen gradually depending on the will of the population of the states.

I woud say that we'll get our first legal state around 2012 or 2014. Then we'll have about 1/2 to 2/3 of the states with legal pot by 2022.

By the time we reach about 5 states that are legalized I'm pretty sure that there will be two or three countries that will be petitioning the EU to let them legalize it for their countries(please note I think that the Netherlands will NOT be one of those countries).

[donpacino]

just thought, if tourists do get banned from going in CS' and buying weed does that mean that tourists would be banned from buying magic truffles etc as well? And does it mean tourists would not be allowed to smoke weed in smoke friendly bars? If so surely it is completly un policeable?????

[smokseyj]

If the US legalises weed, do you think the UK will follow?

Given time, quite possibly. The thing is that the US puts a LOT of pressure on other countries to keep weed illegal. What I think is going to happen is a lot like what happened with medical MJ. Please note that what is below is 100% speculation based on how things shook out with medical MJ. I could easily be VERY WRONG.

A state in the US is going to make marijuana legal in the same way that alcohol is illegal. The federal government is going to have an aneuryism and sue and bust and freak out. The problem is that(much like in the early 20th century) the feds don't have enough resources to bust all the pot smokers in a state. Time will pass and the world won't come crashing to an end. This will be the primary fulcrum of the argument to legalize in other states. This will happen gradually depending on the will of the population of the states.

I woud say that we'll get our first legal state around 2012 or 2014. Then we'll have about 1/2 to 2/3 of the states with legal pot by 2022.

By the time we reach about 5 states that are legalized I'm pretty sure that there will be two or three countries that will be petitioning the EU to let them legalize it for their countries(please note I think that the Netherlands will NOT be one of those countries).

I just dont think i can see the UK being one of them countries....somebodyu once told me that due to the monarchy, england won't legalise it.....no explanation for that point though, just remembered being told it.

[Cisco]

WHY WHY WHY get all excited about this ? its all talk/rumour/presumptions at the moment , and if it does happen tough cookies there aint nothing we can do about it ?! Unless your a resident and get involved in the Politics of it

[HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe]

You know, a tiny part of me wants this to happen so they can all watch the street dealers add Weed, Hash to their menus and to venture out of the RLD then it will collapse within a year. Polititians really don't know their arse from their elbow, its unworkable.

[steven]

WHY WHY WHY get all excited about this ? its all talk/rumour/presumptions at the moment , and if it does happen tough cookies there aint nothing we can do about it ?! Unless your a resident and get involved in the Politics of it

I couldn't put it any better myself