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Uncle Ron wrote:

Cisco wrote:Trims for pussies , full nugs ftw

I'm a pussy?
I suppose I am what I eat...
To me, trim means sugar leaves and selected bud (mostly popcorn) cut before drying for the sole purpose of making hash.

How about that, I was able to state my opinion without calling anyone a name. Wow, what a concept...
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I run my trim, and then when I harvest, I run most of the leftovers from the previous harvest as well. I will say that the quality of BHO made from buds is similar to that of trim from the same plant, but the yields are much higher.

One thing I have found is I prefer running trim or buds that are fresh over those that have been cured and dried. Yields are less, but smell and flavor is off the charts when compared to dried and cured bud from the same plant.

nothing wrong with sugar leaf and i promise you that running dry can and does top wet material..just my 2 ...proof is in yer product...

Uncle Ron wrote:

Cisco wrote:Trims for pussies , full nugs ftw

I'm a pussy?
I suppose I am what I eat...
To me, trim means sugar leaves and selected bud (mostly popcorn) cut before drying for the sole purpose of making hash.

How about that, I was able to state my opinion without calling anyone a name. Wow, what a concept...
Next...
...

You really need to stop taking everything so literal did I write "DUR you are a pussy"

I was making a joke

I tried fresh trim but only caused a blowback , mind you that was fresh frozen rather than fresh

USBONGLORD wrote:nothing wrong with sugar leaf and i promise you that running dry can and does top wet material..just my 2 ...proof is in yer product...

That hasn't been my experience. I have frozen fresh buds and blasted with butane, and have taken buds from the same plant, cured them properly, then blasted with butane. My experience tells me that the fresh material gives better smell and taste, but same high. I assume you could then take the fresh material that you've blasted, let it dry out, grind it and blast it again to get what was missed on the first pass...

Since I don't sell it nor do I share it very often, and can make it faster than I can smoke it all, I'm not so worried about quantity, only quality.

Whats your process please ? I tried to do a run with fresh frozen and it basically just turned into a big soggy wet mess , which caused blow back . Also surely your somehow catching some kind of water/ice particles in the oil ?

Would be interested as Iv got a full plant in the freezer and no bags etc to process , after my first attempt at BHO with it Iv kinda been put off

Thanks man

Cisco wrote:Whats your process please ? I tried to do a run with fresh frozen and it basically just turned into a big soggy wet mess , which caused blow back . Also surely your somehow catching some kind of water/ice particles in the oil ?

Would be interested as Iv got a full plant in the freezer and no bags etc to process , after my first attempt at BHO with it Iv kinda been put off

Thanks man

I freeze the fresh material, then run it through a small food processor to chop it up. Then I put it back in the freezer for an hour or two. I then pack it into one of my tubes... the old one is PVC, and instead of a coffee filter over the end I use a cap with holes drilled in it that gets duct taped to the tube, with a small piece of coffee filter inside the cap covering the hole, so no blowouts. The new tube is stainless steel, and I use a metal mesh over the coffee filter on the open end so again, no blowouts that way either.

Never had a problem with water or ice particles in the oil.

Awesome thanks man , think that's where I went wrong . I just tried to stuff it all in there , rather than chopped up

Cisco wrote:You really need to stop taking everything so literal did I write "DUR you are a pussy" I was making a joke

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ZBeebs wrote:

Cisco wrote:Whats your process please ? I tried to do a run with fresh frozen and it basically just turned into a big soggy wet mess , which caused blow back . Also surely your somehow catching some kind of water/ice particles in the oil ? Would be interested as Iv got a full plant in the freezer and no bags etc to process , after my first attempt at BHO with it Iv kinda been put off Thanks man

I freeze the fresh material, then run it through a small food processor to chop it up. Then I put it back in the freezer for an hour or two. I then pack it into one of my tubes... the old one is PVC, and instead of a coffee filter over the end I use a cap with holes drilled in it that gets duct taped to the tube, with a small piece of coffee filter inside the cap covering the hole, so no blowouts. The new tube is stainless steel, and I use a metal mesh over the coffee filter on the open end so again, no blowouts that way either.
Never had a problem with water or ice particles in the oil.

When I first read about using wet material, I began to cringe. As I read further, the cringe subsided.
I've only used dry material, but this method sounds interesting. What interests me most is the possible difference in the flavor profile.
As for water or ice particles in the oil (not sure how ice would pass through filter), it's good to avoid excess moisture but this shouldn't be a "significant" problem because it will evaporate, length of time depending on method of cure.

ZBeebs, when using the food processor, what is the PITA factor, meaning how much of a (P)ain (I)n (T)he (A)ss is it to recover ALL material?
I've yet to give the Queen Bee a workout, so the next opportunity I will give this method a go.

This got me to thinking...
Process the fresh materials in a food dehydrator, removing most moisture before freezing.
Remove from freezer, chop using food processor, refreeze or blast away...
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Edit - In regards to the flavor profile, fresh trichomes vs aged, exposure to environment, etc...

USBONGLORD wrote:kali mist/cheisel/sogouda ..we call it ..holy shit spoon

The Mist gets Kist with da Fist. Tip: Get CPR qualified before imbibing!
Making any spoon using the USBL Labs cross (I think it was with mazar)?
Will spoon or your cross be taking home any Cannabis Cupage?
enjoy!

Try the other stuff around town during the cup...including the seed shops stuff.then come see us for fun ...we've smoked a lot of oil over the years,from everywhere ..including last years little under the table contest..and time and patience won out over mass production and greed...we like watching people's faces relax and smiles appear when you realize what just happened..it will..see you soon

I am sadly going to miss the spoonwagon in town as I get to the Dam on the 30th of Nov , this spoon is the stuff of legend.

I might have to leave and zippy down on the farm and go north for a possible looksy at the Spoon.
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can u make from this stuff Bramsch Gartenmeister a tincture u can get in germany i have a bottle someone brought it for me from germany becoz to make tinctures orso qwiso example or drinkables example green dragon dunno .....
it is 69 % and it is made from fruit and destilizing i think

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