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Closing Coffee Shops
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 06:01 pm
by Dr Greenshed
What with all this fresh talk of closures I just wanted to run a poll and ask what people's general thoughts were on the closing of our wonderful coffee shops?
Love to see everyone's thought's
Cheers
Dr
by the way I just voted never but I base this on pure hope I think!!
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 06:11 pm
by Colina
I hope that if the government introduces regulation they will be ignored by the people and by the police. I hope Amsterdam stays open minded.
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 06:40 pm
by geoffk
I think we'll see regional and/or municipal regulations. I don't think we'll see a nation wide closure.
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 06:47 pm
by Boner
Colina wrote:I hope that if the government introduces regulation they will be ignored by the people and by the police. I hope Amsterdam stays open minded.
The police wont ignore it, they dont ignore under-age patrons or the 500 gram limit.
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 06:58 pm
by Lamont
As much as I hate to say it I sadly think there wlll be restrictions in the future. I'm giving it 12 months.
I plan on thoroughly enjoying my visit in January with a thought that it may change in the future.
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 07:47 pm
by carlazi
Boner wrote:Colina wrote:I hope that if the government introduces regulation they will be ignored by the people and by the police. I hope Amsterdam stays open minded.
The police wont ignore it, they dont ignore under-age patrons or the 500 gram limit.
But they are ignoring the smoking ban from my observations
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:06 pm
by Colina
carlazi wrote:Boner wrote:Colina wrote:I hope that if the government introduces regulation they will be ignored by the people and by the police. I hope Amsterdam stays open minded.
The police wont ignore it, they dont ignore under-age patrons or the 500 gram limit.
But they are ignoring the smoking ban from my observations
I think the age limit is something you won't ignore as well

and the age limit can't be compared with the ban of foreigners. At the moment they are tolerateing smoke, can't that happen with the ban of tourists especialy in amsterdam?
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:12 pm
by Boner
carlazi wrote:Boner wrote:Colina wrote:I hope that if the government introduces regulation they will be ignored by the people and by the police. I hope Amsterdam stays open minded.
The police wont ignore it, they dont ignore under-age patrons or the 500 gram limit.
But they are ignoring the smoking ban from my observations
Because it's got nothing to do with the actual coffeeshop license, trust me if they were linked the Police would enforce that as well, I'm pretty sure theres a few coffeeshops & bars that have been fined as well, Mellow Yellow being one if memory serves me correctly.
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:17 pm
by sam
I voted for in the next 5 years. I do not think they will close all but will close a lot and restrict who buys there. As someone who has been going since 2000 I can see the big changes made since then. An example The Sativa in Haarlem used to be my favorite coffeeshop by far. They had nice cheap rooms you could rent(stayed there 3 times for 34 days), a great menu with cheap prices, Ferrie(sp?) one of the best bud tenders ever, you could buy as much weed/hash as you wanted and got a great discount on large buys, a great snack bar/area in the back with really hot women working the counter, and now after the smoking band the place is a $hithole. Every thing I mentioned above is gone except maybe Ferrie could still work there. Nothing against Nol(the owner and great guy) but the new smoking rules made this place suck $hit now.
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:25 pm
by westerkerk
For reasons I've already gone into but won't repeat here, I'm expecting hardline 'restrictions' on drug tourism, not forced coffeeshop closures, to be introduced at the earliest 2012. Depending on how the government and police decide to execute these 'restrictions' and how robust they end up being, I expect some coffeeshops that rely heavily financially on tourism could close as a result.
People are talking about the 'weed-pass', but we could see something entirely different, we don't know. We could see something like a 1g purchase limit put on tourists that would cause prices to sky rocket nationwide, thus putting a stranglehold on supply and making people think twice about purchasing, ultimately resulting in loss of revenues for those coffeeshops and potential closures...
I doubt this government will 'force' closures, only devise some way in which to hurt the coffeeshop culture in order to bring it to the brink...
Who knows?
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:29 pm
by seanlyall
westerkerk wrote:For reasons I've already gone into but won't repeat I'm expecting hardline 'restrictions' on drug tourism, not forced coffeeshop closures, to be introduced at the earliest 2012. Depending on how the government and police decide to execute these 'restrictions' and how robust they end up being, I expect some coffeeshops that rely heavily financially on tourism could close as a result.
People are talking about the 'weed-pass', but we could see something entirely different, we don't know. We could see something like a 1g purchase limit put on tourists that would cause prices to sky rocket nationwide, thus putting a stranglehold on supply and making people think twice about purchasing, ultimately resulting in loss of revenues for those coffeeshops and potential closures...
I doubt this government will 'force' closures, only devise some way in which to hurt the coffeeshop culture in order to bring it to the brink...
Who knows?
Dude! That would suck soooo much ass

Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:31 pm
by westerkerk
seanlyall wrote:westerkerk wrote:For reasons I've already gone into but won't repeat I'm expecting hardline 'restrictions' on drug tourism, not forced coffeeshop closures, to be introduced at the earliest 2012. Depending on how the government and police decide to execute these 'restrictions' and how robust they end up being, I expect some coffeeshops that rely heavily financially on tourism could close as a result.
People are talking about the 'weed-pass', but we could see something entirely different, we don't know. We could see something like a 1g purchase limit put on tourists that would cause prices to sky rocket nationwide, thus putting a stranglehold on supply and making people think twice about purchasing, ultimately resulting in loss of revenues for those coffeeshops and potential closures...
I doubt this government will 'force' closures, only devise some way in which to hurt the coffeeshop culture in order to bring it to the brink...
Who knows?
Dude! That would suck soooo much ass

Yup. But these are just my musings to be honest...
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:33 pm
by Boner
There will be some forced closures due to location, those that are within 350 meters of schools will have to close, this is something I fully expect too happen within the next 12 months, if they bring in the card restrictions I'd expext that to happen within the next 12 months as well.
Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:33 pm
by seanlyall
westerkerk wrote:seanlyall wrote:westerkerk wrote:For reasons I've already gone into but won't repeat I'm expecting hardline 'restrictions' on drug tourism, not forced coffeeshop closures, to be introduced at the earliest 2012. Depending on how the government and police decide to execute these 'restrictions' and how robust they end up being, I expect some coffeeshops that rely heavily financially on tourism could close as a result.
People are talking about the 'weed-pass', but we could see something entirely different, we don't know. We could see something like a 1g purchase limit put on tourists that would cause prices to sky rocket nationwide, thus putting a stranglehold on supply and making people think twice about purchasing, ultimately resulting in loss of revenues for those coffeeshops and potential closures...
I doubt this government will 'force' closures, only devise some way in which to hurt the coffeeshop culture in order to bring it to the brink...
Who knows?
Dude! That would suck soooo much ass

Yup. But these are just my musings to be honest...
Yeah but these views seem to be getting more and more real with every day that passes now

Posted: Wed 8th Dec 2010 08:43 pm
by westerkerk
Boner wrote:There will be some forced closures due to location, those that are within 350 meters of schools will have to close, this is something I fully expect too happen within the next 12 months, if they bring in the card restrictions I'd expext that to happen within the next 12 months as well.
What was the original implementation date they gave on that now? Was it November 2010? Or 2011?