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Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 07:42 pm
by USbongLord
glad i got the genetics i needed :lol: 8) ....rip a good time....

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 10:44 pm
by Kermit
Its been fun folks so lets squeeze as much as we can out of whats left of it.

Any confirmed date of this event?

Also does it mean even if its in you possesion, coz if not then it is totally pointless.

I will bring the BBQ for 420, the parks are nice and Gapie is Dutch :wink: :lol:

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 10:55 pm
by xXEXCALABERXx
Isnt it for local council or government to actually implement? This hasnt changed anything really apart from confirm IF the dutch wanted to do it they wouldnt be breaking any eu laws?

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 10:56 pm
by Cisco
Trad wrote:NOTE: A reference for a preliminary ruling allows the courts and tribunals of the Member States, in disputes which have been brought before them, to refer questions to the Court of Justice about the interpretation of European Union law or the validity of a European Union act. The Court of Justice does not decide the dispute itself. It is for the national court or tribunal to dispose of the case in accordance with the Court’s decision, which is similarly binding on other national courts or tribunals before which a similar issue is raised.

I read this at the bottom of the press release. A sliver of hope?? :( :? :cry:
Exactly Trad all thats been ruled is that its not illegal or whatever to stop foreigners going into c/s there is no ruling yet from the Dutch authorities :wink:

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 11:07 pm
by toolsheddaddy
Looks like Gapie will be my first stop in town ?

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 11:09 pm
by donpacino
sorry i may sound dumb but can someone tell me what the "420" is please? I keep seeing it pop up on this thread, is it some type of stoners event?

I dont think this ban will come in to effect immediately IMO, at least not in amsterdam and the other bigger cities. I read earlier, somewhere on this forum (not sure which thread as there are so many on this subject) that mastricht wont be making any decisions until next summer and that there current council recently voted against membership cards. Also the mayor of amsterdam disagrees with the plans and will fight it. IMO in a worst case scenario it will be at least 18 months until amsterdam will be affected.

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 11:11 pm
by archambaut
Hmmm
DRUGS AND TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS
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¶14. (S) Narcotics and trafficking in persons remain areas of difficulty. Despite fundamental differences regarding “soft drugs” and legalized prostitution, the Balkenende government has worked to prevent these differences from defining our relationship. There are also signs that Dutch attitudes may be shifting. The Dutch remain a major producer of synthetic drugs. On the other hand, Dutch Health Minister Hoogevorst recently signed a precedent-setting MOU with the U.S. to share information on the health risks of new strains of marijuana with higher concentrations of THC, which may convince the Dutch to rethink their approach to “soft drugs” in general. The Dutch are addressing drug tourism -- a recent proposal to restrict the sale of marijuana to Dutch passport holders in Maastricht, for example, could cut down on cross-border smuggling and other drug-related crime. We should support such initiatives actively.
:roll:
Arch

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 11:12 pm
by carlazi
As far as i can determine it is residents, not just citizens that can obtain a pass. So start placing your orders!

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 11:15 pm
by Boner
donpacino wrote:sorry i may sound dumb but can someone tell me what the "420" is please? I keep seeing it pop up on this thread, is it some type of stoners event?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=420

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 11:24 pm
by donpacino
Boner wrote:
donpacino wrote:sorry i may sound dumb but can someone tell me what the "420" is please? I keep seeing it pop up on this thread, is it some type of stoners event?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=420
Thanks for that.

Posted: Thu 16th Dec 2010 11:53 pm
by HasjDreamer
We were kinda expecting this decision by the EU anyway; really, right now it only validates the coffeeshops that have already been closed in the south and ok's MORE closings in the south. I don't see it affecting the 'dam until it becomes a national issue, which it will. BUT we're forgetting that Maastrich (or however you spell it) WANTED to close the shops and the shop owner was fighting the town. In Amsterdam, the Mayor and townspeople WANT the coffeeshops to stay. So as I see it, it's Amsterdam/Randstadt vs the Netherlands.

The bastards won the first battle, but the war ain't over yet!!!

Where's that quote from the Amsterdam mayor, something about how proud they were of their pot policies..."we INVENTED the coffeeshop"!

Again, it ain't going down without a fight.

Similar note - in town last week, stickers covering "centrum" and "jordaan" under the street signs replaced by "republic of amsterdam". Is that a political, secession style comment? If so, it shows how ready the 'dam is to FIGHT.

I'll keep going until they stop me at the fucking door of Hill Street. Somehow I don't see it happening in Amsterdam, I just don't.

Those in town this week, TALK TO US... I bet the vibe will be the same, Amsterdam and the rest of the Netherlands are like night and day.

Posted: Fri 17th Dec 2010 02:02 am
by dpgsoulja89
HasjDreamer wrote:We were kinda expecting this decision by the EU anyway; really, right now it only validates the coffeeshops that have already been closed in the south and ok's MORE closings in the south. I don't see it affecting the 'dam until it becomes a national issue, which it will. BUT we're forgetting that Maastrich (or however you spell it) WANTED to close the shops and the shop owner was fighting the town. In Amsterdam, the Mayor and townspeople WANT the coffeeshops to stay. So as I see it, it's Amsterdam/Randstadt vs the Netherlands.

The bastards won the first battle, but the war ain't over yet!!!

Where's that quote from the Amsterdam mayor, something about how proud they were of their pot policies..."we INVENTED the coffeeshop"!

Again, it ain't going down without a fight.

Similar note - in town last week, stickers covering "centrum" and "jordaan" under the street signs replaced by "republic of amsterdam". Is that a political, secession style comment? If so, it shows how ready the 'dam is to FIGHT.

I'll keep going until they stop me at the fucking door of Hill Street. Somehow I don't see it happening in Amsterdam, I just don't.

Those in town this week, TALK TO US... I bet the vibe will be the same, Amsterdam and the rest of the Netherlands are like night and day.
Did you ever hear the expression "I fought the law... and the law won"the mayor of the dam,the towns people and the coffeeshop owners wont stand a chance against the government...best to make the most of it while we can :?

Posted: Fri 17th Dec 2010 03:39 am
by HasjDreamer
It's a matter of enforcement - if the local government DOESN'T support it, the national government is forced to carry the burden. I think we'll see the rebirth of the unlicensed coffeeshop in Amsterdam and towns with a similar point of view.

It's how it all began in the first place...

http://lem.localinet.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13609&

Posted: Fri 17th Dec 2010 04:30 am
by Colina
I think I'll like the 'underground' scene 8) back to the roots.
I will still got to amsterdam, there will be no problem at all getting smoke, I guess.

Another option is to become legal by residency :wink:

Re: http://lem.localinet.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13609&

Posted: Fri 17th Dec 2010 09:15 am
by Kermit
Colina wrote: there will be no problem at all getting smoke, I guess.
SPOT ON!!