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i cant believe thoses bastards are gonna ruin this great country.

There seems to be an outbreak of nasty authouritarian populism among right wing parties all over Europe. Not content with targeting burkha-wearing women for being too conservative we’re now not allowed to be too liberal.

Isn’t the Dutch Sarah Palin, Gert Wilders in this coalition?

echc1 wrote:bastards,bastards,bastards....and they know its too cold to go on the streets and have fun........well done brussels,you've just hurt the dutch tourist trade in ways they cant imagine....still the street dealers will be dancing in the streets.....great decision ;you fuckin thick twats!!!!!!..........i'd bet if it was a big corporate identity being hurt they'd have had a different decision..........brussels..ur the arsehole of europe closely followed maastricht now in my eyes...AND BELGIUM AINT A REAL COUNTRY ANYWAY.....sorry but i'm angry(no apology to the eurocrats as you're a bunch of NWO greedy bastards anyway)

Hehehe, same 'ol Matt.
Hope all's well my friend
Mike says "High".

mattstar wrote:i cant believe thoses bastards are gonna ruin this great country.

Well, being able to walk into a coffeeshop is hardly what makes the Netherlands a "great" country. I can think of about 100 other things that make it a great country. It's people who think the only thing the country has going for it is weed decriminalization that is leading to stuff like this happening.

In saying that, if this does come into affect in Amsterdam, would it really change things all that much? You might not get the casual tourist looking for weed anymore, but surely it'll still be accessible, and the underground scene will be more than accessible for foreigners? I mean, didn't it kind of used to be like this anyway?

i for one wouldn't go to amsterdam if it wasn't for the weed. I love the city but that is mainly based on their tolerance towards weed. I would probably spend my money to go elsewhere, personally

dpgsoulja89 sorry i missed you in the dam. as far as i fought the law and the law won ,prohibition(alcohol) in the states was rolled back big time . as society has become more open to pornography and other "sins" so will it follow with marijuana. even if the dutch roll it back for now . i believe it will be akin to the little dutch boy with his finger in the dike . eventually the dam breaks. the aging western societies will not have the money and the manpower to enforce their silly "moral" crusade. really as far as evils in society go this would be one of the least if an evil at all. and like toolshedaddy says some of us have met gapie and i would hope that he would meet us for a smoke at the many weed friendly bars... Gapie is the man of amsterdam. even if gapie wasn't around i can't see it being that difficult to find some weed with a slight mark up. but i still can't see how this pass system won't be a loss to tourism that will take years to reshape and a huge waste of manpower for the police dealing with weed dealing etc. and let us not forget amsterdam going from a logical practical policy to the traditional model of fighting a bogeyman that really does not exist and wasting a ton of time and money doing it

as far as if the ban goes through it might not cause me to never go but i would certainly not go for my usual week. in summer i am stopping in the dam for 2 days on the way to paris. if the ban takes effect and you can still easily score weed and smoke it in smoke friendly bars i will always stop in the dam for 2 days on the way to the final european destination. if it is more restrictive and difficult or impossible to light up in a weed friendly bar then amsterdam is off the list. seen all the cultual sites have to move on because without the public weed consumption what is worth the repeated returns. i can get hookers and booze anywhere

I'm not worried at all about things changing in Amsterdam in the near future. There hasn't even been any legislation tabled to bring in a ban in Amsterdam and such a radical change in policy will take a long time to work its way through the system. Keep in mind that the ruling coalition won the election by only a very slim margin. It is not like they have a landslide mandate to go out and change everything. I think a lot of the panic in this thread is unwarranted.

The situation in the border towns is completely different to that of Amsterdam. Just because coffeeshops have been closed in these areas does not mean that the same thing is going to happen in Amsterdam.

Having most of my C/S experiences in Limburg Province, I understand (empathize) with the communities concerns. I recommend to anyone that they 'hang out' in Maastricht especially during the weekend in the Summer, and not just once either. You will see what I'm talking about. Hint: I'm surprised these kids aren't transported across the border in school buses. Maybe they should raise the age to 21? Probably won't stop underage consumption but it probably would resolve most of the issues.
Thinking beyond these communities, if border areas are dried out, where will people go? If Amsterdam retains the authority and allows C/S's to remain unchanged, this is where they will come for sure. What will happen to statistics, particularly crime? You bet, the sky is the limit. *That last bit was as a Devil's advocate*. If the lord mayor of Amsterdam states they can handle it, who am I to argue? Some city residents may have something to say about it though, so who knows.

First things first, the Dutch Parliament has to act, and then...

Bottom line - learn to grow your own.

Uncle Ron wrote:
Bottom line - learn to grow your own.

Uncle Ron, you miss our point - we DON'T go to Amsterdam to score weed! Many people on this site are regular growers (I am not) already, we can ALL get weed where we live, we DON'T go to Amsterdam so we can get stoned, we go to enjoy an atmosphere that is unique in this world for pot smokers!

Back in the late '70's my Mom & Dad would travel to Vegas for holiday. My Mom LOVES to play cards - she plays them at home with her friends all the time - but when she first visited Vegas she was blown away by the celebration of gambling that exists there. What she was doing in the privacy of her home was now being shared with thousands of fellow gamblers with their choice of many different settings in which to enjoy their vice. Once I discovered MY version (Amsterdam), my Mom understood completely and never questioned my repeat visits.

It's like Vegas no longer allowing tourists to gamble (residents only please!) and someone suggesting "Just make your own slot machine".

HasjDreamer wrote:

Uncle Ron wrote:
Bottom line - learn to grow your own.

Uncle Ron, you miss our point - we DON'T go to Amsterdam to score weed! Many people on this site are regular growers (I am not) already, we can ALL get weed where we live, we DON'T go to Amsterdam so we can get stoned, we go to enjoy an atmosphere that is unique in this world for pot smokers!

Back in the late '70's my Mom & Dad would travel to Vegas for holiday. My Mom LOVES to play cards - she plays them at home with her friends all the time - but when she first visited Vegas she was blown away by the celebration of gambling that exists there. What she was doing in the privacy of her home was now being shared with thousands of fellow gamblers with their choice of many different settings in which to enjoy their vice. Once I discovered MY version (Amsterdam), my Mom understood completely and never questioned my repeat visits.

It's like Vegas no longer allowing tourists to gamble (residents only please!) and someone suggesting "Just make your own slot machine".

..................................exactly

Uncle Ron wrote:Having most of my C/S experiences in Limburg Province, I understand (empathize) with the communities concerns. I recommend to anyone that they 'hang out' in Maastricht especially during the weekend in the Summer, and not just once either. You will see what I'm talking about. Hint: I'm surprised these kids aren't transported across the border in school buses. Maybe they should raise the age to 21? Probably won't stop underage consumption but it probably would resolve most of the issues.
Thinking beyond these communities, if border areas are dried out, where will people go? If Amsterdam retains the authority and allows C/S's to remain unchanged, this is where they will come for sure. What will happen to statistics, particularly crime? You bet, the sky is the limit. *That last bit was as a Devil's advocate*. If the lord mayor of Amsterdam states they can handle it, who am I to argue? Some city residents may have something to say about it though, so who knows.

First things first, the Dutch Parliament has to act, and then...

Bottom line - learn to grow your own.

....while the border towns might get a lot of nuisance traffic from my repeated visits to amsterdam i see no such nuisance. it is exactly a quite subdued scene. the only fight i have ever seen in the dam was at 3am in of course a bar.....if the border towns want to limit it it might make sense.although odds are that they will just go to private residences to score. amsterdam does not have the same dynamics i guarantee the street dealing and public pot smoking will proliferate making much more of a nuisance than exists now. which from my many visits is nil

HasjDreamer

AMEN.

lol.... Preach it my brotha!

i'll keep posting what i hear back from people in amsterdam. i send out a bunch of emails...

kkchome wrote: Keep in mind that the ruling coalition won the election by only a very slim margin. It is not like they have a landslide mandate to go out and change everything. I think a lot of the panic in this thread is unwarranted.

The situation in the border towns is completely different to that of Amsterdam. Just because coffeeshops have been closed in these areas does not mean that the same thing is going to happen in Amsterdam.

That's what I also think !

And for HasjDreamer, you can't describe better the feeling of being in Dam' in this magical atmosphere !