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Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Fri 18th Feb 2011 09:49 pm
by smai
Hello guys,

I just have a short question to you and maybe you can help me.

- When i would sell a map of coffeeshops of Amsterdam City without saying any words of drugs - just

to say where you can find "coffeeshops" with adress - is it legal or illigal?

I am glad if you can help me.

Sincerely,

Sarah

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Fri 18th Feb 2011 10:28 pm
by sirphobose
The coffeeshops are registered businesses AFAIK, they also appear on google maps so i can't see any reason that it'd be illegal to make a map with them on.....

however https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/Map.html this excellent piece of work has already fufilled your brief (unless you are doing a map for the whole of the Netherlands?)

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Fri 18th Feb 2011 11:39 pm
by FlyByNite
This one

http://www.wietinkaart.nl/

Covers the entire country.

Enjoy
FlyByNite

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Fri 18th Feb 2011 11:53 pm
by sirphobose
FlyByNite wrote:This one

http://www.wietinkaart.nl/

Covers the entire country.

Enjoy
FlyByNite
Cheers for that...so to recap; there would be no problem, legally speaking, in trying to sell a Coffeeshop map. There would be a problem as folks have done it for free already :D

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Sat 19th Feb 2011 11:41 am
by smai
thanks guys for the fast answers!

i read that the coffeeshops have the " AHOJG" conditions, in which is told that the coffeeshops are not allowed to do any
advertising.
But you are right, i think in the internet are many informations of coffeeshops, so this would be illegal, too, and i cant imagine
something like that. Above all, in the windows of coffeeshops is always written that this is a coffeeshop! wouldn't this be advertising,too?

If you hear something else please tell me, this would be very helpful to me :)

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Sat 19th Feb 2011 12:31 pm
by CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY
contact the cannabis college they are a wealth of free information. not just on growing but on laws and restrictions too http://www.cannabiscollege.com/

advertising of coffeeshops is banned in holland. however i do own various coffeeshop maps which i picked up for free within the the shops themselves, so they do already exist.

also, the 'smokers guide' is a book which is full of coffeeshop adverts and maps etc. this hand book is sold all over amsterdam. maybe contact smokers guide and see if they are willing to share with you how restrictive they find the laws etc. etc.

good luck :mrgreen:

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Sat 19th Feb 2011 12:39 pm
by wietroker
Depends where you are selling it perhaps. Anything outside NL, what can they do about it? Nothing.

Inside NL, well I've seen free maps on the back of magazines and stuff. A map of legal enterprises, I can't see a problem with that.

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Sat 19th Feb 2011 12:53 pm
by Wyndham
I think the "no advertising" rule refers to them not advertising that they sell cannabis overtly, ie no big ganja leaves or giant spliffs in the window.
All coffeeshops are required to display the distinctive white/green license, which to those that care says "we sell weed", but it's not explicitly stated anywhere outside.

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Sat 19th Feb 2011 12:59 pm
by CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY
Wyndham wrote:I think the "no advertising" rule refers to them not advertising that they sell cannabis overtly, ie no big ganja leaves or giant spliffs in the window.
im sure it is actually a case of the business itself is not allowed ot be advertised. nothing to do with the imagery of the advertising.

in january i asked in blue bird if they had any business cards (i collect any coffeeshop souveniers i can get) and i was told that they cannot do business cards becuase that would count as advertising.

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Sat 19th Feb 2011 01:21 pm
by Boner
Much like everything else with the coffeeshops the no-advertising is a grey area, Paradox for example has business cards (I have one on my wall), Grey Areas website http://www.greyarea.nl/ is probably owned by them but it states it is fan run, personally I cant see how a map with coffeeshops on could even be seen as advertising let alone from the shops themselves.

Re: Illegal or legal..? need help!

Posted: Sat 19th Feb 2011 01:28 pm
by Cisco
Im sure i have seen adverts in Soft Secret for coffeeshops ? in fact defo Katsu for one :wink: