Marco wrote:I was just responding to being called a septic, with the worst insult I could imagine for Boner. I sadly can speak barely a bloody word of Dutch and the one thing I know for certain after my short time here, is you are right I will never be (or want to be) Dutch, nor would they ever fully accept me (trying dating Dutch girls, lol). I also think Basjoe's is waaay overpriced, I rarely sit in coffeeshops and this clique you speak of, well that is another story.Kingdoc wrote: Tourist? wtf,Is that what you think of us all marco? i never had you down as the elitist type before man?,Your not even a full E.U citizen yourself! you acquired a french passport by some technicality if my memory serves me rightly,Your what! a french canadian or something?,Lol i think you have been sitting in basjoes with your clique a little bit to long there mate
Point taken however. I love this site, and virtually every single one of you I have met have been excellent. So no offense intended.
However, calling me French Canadian, them's fighting words! FUCK no!
,How many brown bars do you guys go to? the ones of you who drink of course,Most of the ex pats ive met over the years simply hang around uk/irish bars drinking beer they can all get back "home" while listening to a mix of 80`s tracks & IRA songs with other ex pats without even trying to speak dutch! at all 
,One example i asked a barman at the end of april there "hows you dutch getting on" after like 7 years of him living there & he simply laughed! + when his shift finishes at 5pm he swaps one side of the bar for another & drinks tennents or carling untill closing with a face like thunder while he watches darlington V runcorn or something! a lonely soul indeed & paradise lost there i think ,Look marco ive nothing against you as a person & ive even agreed with lots of what youve said in the past! but!,Names are a bit rich coming from people (ex pats) who were tourists themselves not to long ago & enjoyed everything that came with it also,Lets be honest marco! most ex pats keep to there own little sub cultures/cliques & make little effort to integrate or be friendly! i go to brown bars & its very rare to see an italian/scottish or even french person! & if you do you can forget about a dooi or dank u wel,KD.Does anyone think exept wilders that banning tourist from germany belgium and france at the border shops will stop these people doing the same on black market in the same border towns?medal wrote:the problem is the hit en run tourist from germany belgium en france at the border shops. combine this with a men who just hates drugs because its called drugs en there you go the wiet pass is created
now you could say that only people with a dutch nationallity can come into the coffeeshop the problem with that is the european law that says somthing like a eu citicen can buy what ever they want in eu country's. en since the european law goos over the national law that is somthing that cant be done.
now when you make a coffeshop a club you can go around this eu law.
Kingdoc wrote:Marco wrote:I was just responding to being called a septic, with the worst insult I could imagine for Boner. I sadly can speak barely a bloody word of Dutch and the one thing I know for certain after my short time here, is you are right I will never be (or want to be) Dutch, nor would they ever fully accept me (trying dating Dutch girls, lol). I also think Basjoe's is waaay overpriced, I rarely sit in coffeeshops and this clique you speak of, well that is another story.Kingdoc wrote: Tourist? wtf,Is that what you think of us all marco? i never had you down as the elitist type before man?,Your not even a full E.U citizen yourself! you acquired a french passport by some technicality if my memory serves me rightly,Your what! a french canadian or something?
Point taken however. I love this site, and virtually every single one of you I have met have been excellent. So no offense intended.
However, calling me French Canadian, them's fighting words! FUCK no!
Most of you dont speak dutch anyways! or even try
,Just done the days of the week the other day there & learning to count now! know tons of words like without paying a penny! use what you have around yourself know what i mean,KD.I am trying to learn Dutch, but its not easy man. I speak other languages, but Dutch just won't go in. For the record, I work a lot and spend my free time with a combination of locals and expats, but almost no Americans and I stick to my local bars (brown cafes i guess) and the electronic music scene, which is actually where I meet the most Dutch people. I am patient, and know my time to integrate a bit will come with time as I am not going anywhere. And I was not ever a tourist here, I ended up finding a job here and then discovered how nice a place this is. peaceKingdoc wrote:Marco wrote:I was just responding to being called a septic, with the worst insult I could imagine for Boner. I sadly can speak barely a bloody word of Dutch and the one thing I know for certain after my short time here, is you are right I will never be (or want to be) Dutch, nor would they ever fully accept me (trying dating Dutch girls, lol). I also think Basjoe's is waaay overpriced, I rarely sit in coffeeshops and this clique you speak of, well that is another story.Kingdoc wrote: Tourist? wtf,Is that what you think of us all marco? i never had you down as the elitist type before man?,Your not even a full E.U citizen yourself! you acquired a french passport by some technicality if my memory serves me rightly,Your what! a french canadian or something?
Point taken however. I love this site, and virtually every single one of you I have met have been excellent. So no offense intended.
However, calling me French Canadian, them's fighting words! FUCK no!
Most of you dont speak dutch anyways! or even try
Let's set the record straight
When this first came out the other day Europe went nuts. But now we've all relaxed and had a closer look. IT'S NOT HAPPENING!!!
First off - it's only a proposed bill. It hasn't made it through both houses of the Dutch government. It was proposed by conservative politicians. It's not 'law' yet.
Secondly - do you think the City of Amsterdam and Edienhoven are just going to let this happen? They're already protesting against the bill. If it ever does go through it could be YEARS before it makes it into the law books.
Thirdly - This would break EU law (at least for EU citizens - yay!) Every citizen of the EU is entitled to the same rights (bar voting and military service) in fellow union nations. So banning European tourists from the coffeeshops would be hard to do - even if they are doing it in a roundabout way using a 'membership' scheme.
Fourthly - It would break the Dutch constitution which guarantees equal rights to all on 'dutch soil' regardless of their citizen ship (excluding voting and military service). It's not a solid case with this one but it'd make for yet another good argument.
Fifthly - There are reasons (economic and cultural) why it's in Holland's interest to keep the coffee shops 'open' to tourists. They are aware of these. And hence a harsh debate will occur.
Finally - the Dutch are known for deciding whether or not they 'like' a new law. They introduced a smoking ban in pubs, restaurants etc.. a few years back like many other countries have. While the rest of us just sucked it up and those who smoked went outside - the Dutch decided to ignore it. And it worked! The smoking ban is now not enforced (much like MJ laws there - it's still technically illegal there).
ALSO - the Netherlands isn't the most progressive nation in terms of MJ in Europe. It's just the most tourist friendly because of the coffee shops. Portugal and the Czech Republic have made it legal to grow your own plants and be in possession of 15grams (I think - could be more or less).
Very long story short - this law isn't coming any time soon, it probably never will, and if it does it won't work. The coffee shops will just flout the law as they have done already.
I would continue to visit the dam even if there was a blanket ban on coffeeshops, but not if the weedpass comes in as i feel it is racist, and would not spend money in a country that breeds this - there, my 2 cents / pence ramble 
Then you are one of the reasons why the locals voted so much for wilders.DC wrote:KD, cough...bullshit...cough. I don't speak Dutch and don't fookin intend learning it either.
Great to have a Nederlander on the board. I see your point, but....but its also true that people can make a good life and living here without speaking Dutch. And people like DC are good for this country.medal wrote:Then you are one of the reasons why the locals voted so much for wilders.DC wrote:KD, cough...bullshit...cough. I don't speak Dutch and don't fookin intend learning it either.
en ook ik vind dat op het moment dat je in een ander land gaat wonen je je moet aanpassen en dus ook de taal moet leren...
First of all, the 'locals' you're referring to voted for Wilders because like them, he's a racist bastard that doesn't like minority groups that are of a different race, religion and/or skin colour who often, but not always, segregate themselves into their own little culteral cul de sacs. Lots of these people were invited into the country to help rebuild it after WWII, nobody said much then because the Dutch Nazi sympathizers had to stfu for awhile because they blew their chance. Only now after 2nd and 3rd generations are being born here and are showing attitude to these 'locals' are they starting to bitch about it. I've always paid my way here, rent, health insurance and taxes and have never needed to speak the lingo to do so. As I've also said before, stop using engels so much in the economy and maybe I'll learn Dutch. Nobody seems to mind when they're making money using another language other than Dutch and until they do...they can go fuk themselves. Just because you think people should adapt when they move to another country, which in your mind means learning the language doesn't mean to say it's true....and in this country, when you can speak english, it certainly isn't the case. If you want us to speak Dutch then take a leaf out of all the bordering countries around this one's books and stop using a foreign language to sell your souls. In the meantime though, don't confuse non intergation with Dutch racisim, not speaking Dutch isn't a reason for it..... it's an excuse for it.medal wrote:Then you are one of the reasons why the locals voted so much for wilders.DC wrote:KD, cough...bullshit...cough. I don't speak Dutch and don't fookin intend learning it either.
en ook ik vind dat op het moment dat je in een ander land gaat wonen je je moet aanpassen en dus ook de taal moet leren...
i really dont mind any one who speaks english en makes a lifing here thats not the problem the problem is in the 2nd generation of that so called workers that still still nog speak dutch when they where living here from birth the women doest work they cant communicate with the people around them en dont want to( not saying that goos for evry one ofc there are a lots of good people) here ill give a excemple of the problemDC wrote:First of all, the 'locals' you referring to voted for Wilders because like them, he's a racist bastard that doesn't like minority groups that are of a different race, religion and/or skin colour who often, but not always, segregate themselves into their own little culteral cul de sacs. Lots of hese people were invited into the country to help rebuild it after WWII, nobody said much then because the Dutch Nazi sympathizers had to stfu for awhile because they blew their chance. Only now after 2nd and 3rd generations are being born here and are showing attitude to these 'locals' are they starting to bitch about it. I've always paid my way here, rent, health insurance and taxes and have never needed to speak the lingo to do so. As I've also said before, stop using engels so much in the economy and maybe I'll learn Dutch. Nobody seems to mind when they're making money using another language other than Dutch and until they do...they can go fuk themselves. Just because you think people should adapt when they move to another country, which in your mind means learning the language doesn't mean to say it's true....and in this country, when you can speak english, it certainly isn't the case. If you want us to speak Dutch then take a leaf out of all the bordering countries around this one's books and stop using a foreign language to sell your souls. In the meantime though, don't confuse non intergation with Dutch racisim, not speaking Dutch isn't a reason for it..... it's an excuse for it.medal wrote:Then you are one of the reasons why the locals voted so much for wilders.DC wrote:KD, cough...bullshit...cough. I don't speak Dutch and don't fookin intend learning it either.
en ook ik vind dat op het moment dat je in een ander land gaat wonen je je moet aanpassen en dus ook de taal moet leren...
was nothing against you 
