No tourist ban or maybe there will be....then again...

General discussion about cannabis and coffeeshops.
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Please learn the language parents, your kids are getting away with murder during those PTA meetings.

Aren't we done with this thread yet?


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i aint done learnin engrish yet :mrgreen:
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Of all the papers in the world i didn't expect support from the Daily Mail. Even most of the comments are fair.
http://travelblog.dailymail.co.uk/2011/ ... lands.html
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regarding the 'ban'.... look at the cigarette ban.... everyone fucking smokes tobacco in the coffeeshops.
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Cant see it happening in dam. Its just a way of keeping the eu wankers happy. Theres too much money to lose. But if it did happen id be utterly gutted as i didnt get to go in may as planed so god knows when i will get to go
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just seen a post today from the bulldog coffee shop on facebook stating all coffee shops to close to foreigners by november 2011,they have provided no link to a source thou.thought it had been decided it was ok til 2015??? are they trying to drum up business?
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macca187 wrote:just seen a post today from the bulldog coffee shop on facebook stating all coffee shops to close to foreigners by november 2011,they have provided no link to a source thou.thought it had been decided it was ok til 2015??? are they trying to drum up business?
I´m a member on Bulldog.eu and there is no info about that??


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I have just looked at it and it says 2015.
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There won't be a weed pass until at least 2015 and it has become highly questionable that will ever be implemented in Amsterdam! So enjoint!
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looks like they have removed it,people had wrote on the post saying it was already decided weeks ago it wont be implemented til atleast 2015.i was shocked to read it after hearing it had all been sorted
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just checked again and its still there heres a link to page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Bulld ... 3563581140
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macca187 wrote:just checked again and its still there heres a link to page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Bulld ... 3563581140
It looks like the page you're a fan of is not the official page. The page tiltled "The Bulldog Amsterdam" looks to be the official one.

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Balou wrote:
macca187 wrote:just checked again and its still there heres a link to page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Bulld ... 3563581140
It looks like the page you're a fan of is not the official page. The page tiltled "The Bulldog Amsterdam" looks to be the official one.

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Hello All ! This is my first post in this forum and it is exciting indeed...

Heres the deal:

Amsterdam coffee shops will not be closing their doors any time soon...

The Nazis at the Hague have passed the measure that would ALLOW for the wietpas, which is what we're so concerned about.

The European council has decided, in a PRELIMINARY ruling, that the wietpas DOES constitute discrimination - but that such discrimination is acceptable where it abates nuisance (dont see how that works out - clearly fascist ideology, though).

Amsterdam - the city council and mayor van der Laan are vehemently protecting their wonderful city from the wietpas. The council has argued that the tourists do not cause any mischief, and, amongst other things, this has been exemplified when comparing crime rates (red light district v. Joordan for example). The crime rates are identical yet one area has significantly more coffee shops (obviously). There would thus be no justification for the wietpas in Amsterdam.

Some say that in order to legally implement the wietpas, the Opium law would have to change - this would be the first time ever for this and is extremely unlikely.

Now if you make sense of all of this, it becomes apparent that the decisions will likely be left up to the cities themselves - which is the way it should be. I could support the wietpas in border regions if weed tourists are indeed causing problems. (I have never seen anyone causing trouble).

AND FINALLY - THINK REALISTICALLY!!!!!! HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO SET UP A DATABASE SYSTEM AND ALL THAT SHIT? BY NOVEMBER?

I THINK NOT!

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mark09 wrote:Hello All ! This is my first post in this forum and it is exciting indeed...

Heres the deal:

Amsterdam coffee shops will not be closing their doors any time soon...

The Nazis at the Hague have passed the measure that would ALLOW for the wietpas, which is what we're so concerned about.

The European council has decided, in a PRELIMINARY ruling, that the wietpas DOES constitute discrimination - but that such discrimination is acceptable where it abates nuisance (dont see how that works out - clearly fascist ideology, though).

Amsterdam - the city council and mayor van der Laan are vehemently protecting their wonderful city from the wietpas. The council has argued that the tourists do not cause any mischief, and, amongst other things, this has been exemplified when comparing crime rates (red light district v. Joordan for example). The crime rates are identical yet one area has significantly more coffee shops (obviously). There would thus be no justification for the wietpas in Amsterdam.

Some say that in order to legally implement the wietpas, the Opium law would have to change - this would be the first time ever for this and is extremely unlikely.

Now if you make sense of all of this, it becomes apparent that the decisions will likely be left up to the cities themselves - which is the way it should be. I could support the wietpas in border regions if weed tourists are indeed causing problems. (I have never seen anyone causing trouble).

AND FINALLY - THINK REALISTICALLY!!!!!! HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO SET UP A DATABASE SYSTEM AND ALL THAT SHIT? BY NOVEMBER?

I THINK NOT!

=)
Thanks for the post, we are aware this is not going into effect this winter as is stated in this thread https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... =3&t=18033

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mark09 wrote: The Nazis at the Hague have passed the measure that would ALLOW for the wietpas, which is what we're so concerned about.

The European council has decided, in a PRELIMINARY ruling, that the wietpas DOES constitute discrimination - but that such discrimination is acceptable where it abates nuisance (dont see how that works out - clearly fascist ideology, though).
Oh man. To compare democratically elected legislators to Nazis is so stupid it begs me to ask how old you are.

As for the European Court decision, I would like to see a reference to what you claim. My understanding that the court ruled it was acceptable since cannabis is illegal in NL (and throughout the EU), therefore it does not violate EU rules concerning commerce and the ability to travel and conduct business freely throughout the member states.

The ruling, as I posted before, can be found here: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs ... 0121en.pdf

Regardless, there is nothing fascist about such a ruling (Webster's definition: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism).

Other than that, great post. :|
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