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Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 06:16 pm
by YourGuru
Thank you my (BFF) best forum friend... It is what it is and won't effect those of us who plan on living there.
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 06:44 pm
by mrdcotor
Marco wrote:I think its not that hard.
The hard thing, imho, it's the step back on path of weed liberation.
And what a step back! Netherland, former home-country of tolerance among drugs.
The impact on public opinion will be deep...conservative will spread this news all over the world like an historical victory.
I can presume it will affect even the legalitation process in usa, wich is now at a crossroads.
We know that this is not a victory: we know the "drug tourism" consist mostly of person tired of the bad quality in the black market and this is a result of prohibitionism itself. We also know we are not the junkies painted by press or politicians...
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 07:07 pm
by Boner
Most of what MHD says comes from his Dutch girlfriend who is heavily involved with the cannabis community, who should people listen to her? (those that know Jackie know she is on the ball with all things canna) or a septic who thinks you should only take 3 tokes.
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 07:32 pm
by Kingdoc
I respect MHD for what its worth! hes been a longterm resident now & he knows his s**t,I met him once! seemed a friendly down to earth guy,& i got a hash cookie from his girlfriend also! KD.
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 09:56 pm
by Uncle Ron
Some have mentioned the weed pass, it has been going on in certain towns in Limburg Province (Venlo being one) for years. I had two passes, one from Roots/Oase and the other from Nobody's Place. They called it a membership, registration cost 5 Euro which is credited to the next purchase.
Among the information that the card provides include:
- Passport Information (they scan the passport and save the info)
- How many purchases made in a day, week, month, year...
- How much was purchased
- Where it was purchased
- Date of purchase(s)
- etc...
The main reason why I stopped going to these shops was because of slight paranoia. Not a stretch of the imagination to think that the local authorities will give this information to the country of origin and in my case, Germany. I started to become a little paranoid that they would use this information to pull me over whenever I was reentering Germany from The Netherlands, so my fix was/is to take the train. Fuck em...
Whatever happens, and whether I like it nor not, it's their country.
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 10:25 pm
by Boner
Posted by mhd at Channels, I've ran it through the translater:
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... ml&act=url
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 10:45 pm
by Kingdoc
From Nols facebook page dated yesterday
Municipalities can ignore weedpass....
According to Minister Opstelten's concept letter to the Tweede Kamer (the official one, not the coffeeshop) about the Weedpass, it is up to the Mayors weather coffeeshops become members clubs and will ...refuse foreigners.
He will discuss his plan in the Ministers Council on Friday.(today)
This means nothing will change in Amsterdam, Haarlem, and all other cities with coffeeshops....
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 11:22 pm
by YourGuru
YourGuru wrote:These posts get hyped up quickly. Fact of the matter is, they have been trying to implement this for almost a decade and I doubt it will ever happen. This is a twisted version of what actually was decided. Yes they want cities to implement the resident only wietpass but as mentioned in another topic this will be decided on a city by city basis. Everyone calm down. If the wave starts in the south and starts gaining momentum then I'll start getting concerned. But even then there's More money for The City of Amsterdam with tourists allowed to purchase small amounts of cannabis than the alternative so I just can't fathom it happening. What you have are misinterpretations of the ideas of right wing xenophobes who are grasping at straws...
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 11:28 pm
by Kingdoc
YourGuru wrote:YourGuru wrote:These posts get hyped up quickly. Fact of the matter is, they have been trying to implement this for almost a decade and I doubt it will ever happen. This is a twisted version of what actually was decided. Yes they want cities to implement the resident only wietpass but as mentioned in another topic this will be decided on a city by city basis. Everyone calm down. If the wave starts in the south and starts gaining momentum then I'll start getting concerned. But even then there's More money for The City of Amsterdam with tourists allowed to purchase small amounts of cannabis than the alternative so I just can't fathom it happening. What you have are misinterpretations of the ideas of right wing xenophobes who are grasping at straws...
How would they even begin to work it? would you still be able to roll one up in a smokers bar for example if you had some? or will it even be an offence to be in possession again?,They are tons of questions that need answers & knowing the dutch they will worm a way round this somehow,KD.
Re: No tourist ban or maybe there will be....
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 11:34 pm
by YourGuru
KD, hop on the sane train with those of us who don't buy into it or don't give a fuck... Much better for your health...
Me
USBL
Kermit
Marco
Twich
Uncle Ron
And anyone else who has a brain...
~Ian
Re: No tourist ban or maybe there will be....
Posted: Sat 28th May 2011 11:42 pm
by Kingdoc
YourGuru wrote:KD, hop on the sane train with those of us who don't buy into it or don't give a fuck... Much better for your health...
Me
USBL
Kermit
Marco
Twich
And anyone else who has a brain...
~Ian
I hope it doesnt come to anything! or changes if any arnt to harsh for us,Its there worst attack on coffeeshops & visitors alike for many many years without a shadow of doubt,KD.
Re: No tourist ban.
Posted: Sun 29th May 2011 02:48 am
by Uncle Ron
Kingdoc wrote:How would they even begin to work it? would you still be able to roll one up in a smokers bar for example if you had some? or will it even be an offence to be in possession again?,They are tons of questions that need answers & knowing the dutch they will worm a way round this somehow,KD.
Here is how it works in Venlo. You enter the shop and show them your pass (and photo ID). If you don't have a pass (membership), you buy one. If you are not a Dutch citizen/resident, they will show you the door. The rule is members only. If guests were allowed, why have the ban in the first place?
I don't give a fuck either way. I smoked weed long before I ever stepped into a C/S, and will continue to do so long after the last one closes (if this comes to pass).
If this happens, then it happens. If not, then it's business as usual.
Nothing happy about this shit...
Re: No tourist ban or maybe there will be....
Posted: Sun 29th May 2011 09:13 am
by Cisco
Out of interest DUR how did you get your passes then ? I believe your not a Dutch resident or national
Re: No tourist ban or maybe there will be....
Posted: Sun 29th May 2011 12:51 pm
by jimi62471
this topic is getting way too much attention. Amsterdam isn't changing any time soon. It would be like telling the cinese they can't grow anymore rice. Going to the cup this year, and then i will start to thinking about an alternative "adult" vacationland.. Cali, or maybe a trip to Seattle once a year. I do have a cousin in Montana who i'm sure would be cool with fetching me some gear. Hopefully it will be legal here soon. such a pain and bother getting mediocre gear and never knowing what it is.. or if it was cared for properly..
Re: No tourist ban or maybe there will be....
Posted: Sun 29th May 2011 12:54 pm
by yogibear
