Strong MJ to be treated as class A drug,Dutch Govt.plans

General discussion about cannabis and coffeeshops.
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The more i think about this the more I reckon it is totally unenforcable, the cops must be seething about this as it will take more time away from catching people who are actually fucking criminals, it is definitely just a childish idea coming from a bunch of motherfucking christians just because smoking cannabis is against their archaic dogma, fucking biggest bunch of hypocrites on this blue marble.
Cunts, there aint no god and yer not getting into fucking Heaven.
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Second rant over, phew. 8)


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HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe wrote:The more i think about this the more I reckon it is totally unenforcable, the cops must be seething about this as it will take more time away from catching people who are actually fucking criminals, it is definitely just a childish idea coming from a bunch of motherfucking christians just because smoking cannabis is against their archaic dogma, fucking biggest bunch of hypocrites on this blue marble.
Cunts, there aint no god and yer not getting into fucking Heaven.
BTW I am a very strong Athiest :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:




Second rant over, phew. 8)
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lol, na I'm a going for a smoke now mate. 8)
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is it only thc we might get sum new high cbd strains not a bad thing if you like being stoned :wink:
keep it lit?
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Here is what the bulldog has posted on their website in regard to the new nazi ruling:

Some "confusion" with coffee-shop owners after the publication of the new "15% rule"

After announcing the new 15% rule, the government caused some confusion among coffee-shop owners and their visitors.
On Friday, October 7th, the government has decided that cannabis with a THC content of 15% or higher to be considered hard drugs and to be placed on “List 1” of the Dutch Opium Act . For introduction of the new rule a modification of the Opium Act is required.
The proposed change (the proposed text for legislation) will first have to be submitted to the Dutch Parliament. Parliament then has the opportunity to discuss and ask questions for a 4 week period. Following this 4 week period the proposed amendment is then to be submitted to the Council of State. As yet there is no (drug) debate on the agenda of Parliament. So, within the next few months there will be no change.

Ofcourse it has the full attention of all those concerned.


Source: http://www.thebulldog.com/node/85

So it seems that the issue of reclassification is going to be more complicated, on par with the implication of the wietpas, in changing the opium laws - which would require a change in constitution. Don't know how accurate this is. maybe someone with great knowledge of the Dutch legal system will chime in on this...
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Nol van Schaik: Some lack of clarity with coffeeshop owners after disclosure of the “15% rule”

A bit of uncertainty can arise among coffeeshop owners and their visitors
after publication of the 15% regulation.

The government decided Friday, October 7 to consider cannabis with a THC
content of 15% or higher as a hard drug and place it on List 1 of the Opium
Law.

Before the adoption of this rule, however, a change in the Opium Law is
necessary. The changes intended (the proposed legal text) will first have to
be put before the 2nd House of Parliament. The House then has the
opportunity to present questions for 4 weeks. Then the changes under
consideration in the law will be submitted to the Council of State.

For the time being, there is no (drug) debate on the 2nd House’s agenda. In
practice, very little will change in the next few months. Obviously, it has
the full attention of the ruling coalition and jurists.

meaning there is still ICE on the menu in the shops...
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Some good news at least, there is hope I will still be able to get my terminator/butter fix in February if we manage to get over.
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Boner wrote:Nol van Schaik: Some lack of clarity with coffeeshop owners after disclosure of the “15% rule”

A bit of uncertainty can arise among coffeeshop owners and their visitors
after publication of the 15% regulation.

The government decided Friday, October 7 to consider cannabis with a THC
content of 15% or higher as a hard drug and place it on List 1 of the Opium
Law.

Before the adoption of this rule, however, a change in the Opium Law is
necessary. The changes intended (the proposed legal text) will first have to
be put before the 2nd House of Parliament. The House then has the
opportunity to present questions for 4 weeks. Then the changes under
consideration in the law will be submitted to the Council of State.

For the time being, there is no (drug) debate on the 2nd House’s agenda. In
practice, very little will change in the next few months. Obviously, it has
the full attention of the ruling coalition and jurists.

meaning there is still ICE on the menu in the shops...
this i like to hear, definitive answer.... bisness as usual for at least the rest of 2011
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CannaSir wrote:
gapie wrote:damn lots of peeps PM me about this
i dunno all
and
i dont give a fuck

Man - is this really what you want to be saying?!?! The reason people ask YOU is cos they know you are local, have probably met you several times and hope that you might be able to help!! Perhaps you will 'give a fuck' when there are no more TnTs for you to go to? You're not doing your reputation as a 'host' any good at all with this attitude.
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it is all propeganda dont listen to it if it will happen it will happens .. wait .. for the outcome
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gapie wrote:it is all propeganda dont listen to it if it will happen it will happens .. wait .. for the outcome

Spot on Gapie great post :wink:
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Gapie wrote
sorrreeee but i dont really know i aint the goverment
Well I think you should be ! :idea: :D
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Chapiteau is back to its normal menu :D
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Marco wrote:Chapiteau is back to its normal menu :D
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It will be interesting to see what happens,but curiously I am more interested in the rationale behind it,I can't even understand the rationale behind the selective ban on certain non Dutch nationals being banned from the coffee shops in Maastricht.

Maybe the alcohol and cig companies are behind it? who knows.Maybe it is the back door policy that gives them concern,maybe it is a start of a slippery slope,15% now in two years 10% etc etc.I suppose it doesn't help when you see a gram of cannabis going for 50 euros, which is probably equivalent to some class As,isolators,butter honey oil must confuse the shit out of some people,the Dutch folk I know with certain exceptions don't like their smoke too strong,so it could be a populous idea amongst some Dutch smokers,as any human tends to view things within their own moral compass,funnily enough then you should be able to go into a coffeeshop in the not too distant future and see all the weed with a comparison THC% in it,not too bad for the connoisseur,but for the hard core I would imagine them drifting out of the coffeeshop environment to pursue other markets,which in no doubt will lead them to be offered other substances,all in all it is a very poor thought out approach to take.How will the coffeeshop owner respond to this well they should argue that if you let us grow it then we can ensure the level of THC in our product.Fingers crossed that reason will prevail.
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