Strong MJ to be treated as class A drug,Dutch Govt.plans

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I'm not sure that I agree. If I buy a drink such as bourbon (80 proof) and water or scotch (80 proof) and soda, the product that I am buying is not 40% alcohol, but something less because of the water or soda. If I buy a 28 gram space cake, in which there is .5 grams of 20% thc marijuana, doesn't the final product come out as having less than 15% thc? Shouldn't the issue be what the customer receives? What about the pre-rolled joint that has 20% thc marijuana but is 1/3 tobacco. Doesn't that mean what the customer receives is about 13% thc? Not that I would ever order anything but pure.

I've never been a fan of the mega concoctions that are available in Amsterdam as I prefer to step over the border and not get lost in the wastelands. However, I truly hope that the Dutch government isn't dumb enough to kill the golden goose. If all I wanted was history and museums, I'd go to Paris. What made Amsterdam my favorite was the history, museums, AND the coffeeshops.

Unless the government commits to providing 15% thc marijuana, the new regulation is nothing more than a not too well veiled attempt to destroy the coffeeshop system.

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Boner wrote:
notsofasteddie wrote:
Boner wrote:Marijuana is just a general term anyway so anything with thc in it will be covered, this I imagine would also cover edibles.
So what is the THC content of a total edible? Given all of the flour, is the whole piece of cake over 15%? The ones from Paradox might be, but what about the others that average somewhere around .5 grams per piece of cake/muffin?

I haven't a clue tbh but it doesn't matter if it's .5 gram or .1 of a gram if the weed used has over 15% thc then the edible would as well (I think, I may be well off the mark but a sip of 40% proof whisky is still 40%).

Put it this way 1/2 a gram of 20% thc weed doesn't mean it'll only be 10%.
Yeah but a sip of 40% whisky mixed in coke makes a drink that is not 40% anymore
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A joint or spacecake made with 20% THC strength would still contain 20% it's the strength not the volume , if I make a spliff with 50% tobacco the strength of the Marijuana stays the same
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Panog wrote:Yeah but a sip of 40% whisky mixed in coke makes a drink that is not 40% anymore
If that same sip of whisky had no coke in it would it still be 40%?
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Yeah but the %age of THC is a ratio between plant material and THC isn't it ?
So if you roll a joint with tobacco the weed inside would still be say 20% THC but the whole joint would be only 10% (if mixed with 50%weed/50%tobacco)
How do they fix a THC % content ? I think it's a ration between the weigh of the bud and the weight of the crystals ?
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Maybe its because i love to smoke but alcohol causes more damage to your body and causes more fights etc etc, how many people are there that smoke weed everyday and if they dont have a joint they go into shock because they have had no weed?

I remember when the European Championships were held in Holland and Belgium, England has a notorious hooligan problem and when they lost to Portugal 3-2 in Holland there were no problems as they were all stoned. If they had been on the beer there would of been riots like there were in Charloi a few days later.

Its a plant that grows out the fucking ground for fucks sake
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Boner wrote:Milehigh posted this on FB: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/ ... IX20111010
Very intresting, thanks boner.

I had another thought, is medical marijuana legal in the netherlands? I mean completely legal? I am assuming so. So like any drug depending on what illness you have dictates the strength of the drug, so will this change in law mean that doctors will no longer be able to prescribe strong marijuana to a patient who needs strong pain relief etc????
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Ok, some (bad) news from the front. Just went to Chapiteau and all their black hashes and some of the Moroccans are 'grayed out' on the menu. I asked why, thinking supply issues. They did it due to uncertainty about the new law.

Direct quote: "At this rate, all we will be able to sell is white widow, pollem and thai"
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Marco wrote:Ok, some (bad) news from the front. Just went to Chapiteau and all their black hashes and some of the Moroccans are 'grayed out' on the menu. I asked why, thinking supply issues. They did it due to uncertainty about the new law.

Direct quote: "At this rate, all we will be able to sell is white widow, pollem and thai"
Better warn them that White Widow is also over 15% http://www.greenhouseseeds.nl/shop/whit ... nised.html
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Marco wrote:Ok, some (bad) news from the front. Just went to Chapiteau and all their black hashes and some of the Moroccans are 'grayed out' on the menu. I asked why, thinking supply issues. They did it due to uncertainty about the new law.

Direct quote: "At this rate, all we will be able to sell is white widow, pollem and thai"
noooooooooOOOOOOOOO :cry: :cry: :cry: W.T.F. :evil: :evil: :evil:
this starts happening now....by the time november comes around there`ll be no point celebrating my 40th in da dam :cry: :cry:
from 4 visits a year to none....dutch down about €12,000....and thats just me :shock: multiply that by the number of mates that do the same and their down alot of easy money :? the dutch govt will soon find itself going to the i.m.f. for money in a few years :lol: :lol: :lol: .....they really dont want us in their country anymore :( :(
i`d go to california for a holiday and smoke :D ....BUT....they won`t let me in to their country :( :( :( ...........
here`s hoping they clarify this crap law real soon.............
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Nols reply:
tehy must be chicken..We are awaiting our Lawyer's advice on when and how to start a court case to tell the Minister we are retailers of cannabis, not producers, meaning he should get out of our hair about this stupid issue.
they must have bad WW then...
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Boner wrote:Nols reply:
tehy must be chicken..We are awaiting our Lawyer's advice on when and how to start a court case to tell the Minister we are retailers of cannabis, not producers, meaning he should get out of our hair about this stupid issue.
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Marco wrote: Chapiteau all their black hashes and some of the Moroccans are 'grayed out' on the menu. They did it due to uncertainty about the new law.
Wow! They are either the supreme ass-kissers of the coffeeshop world or this has suddenly 'gone through to Law' ?!?! What..the..fuck?!
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Boner wrote:Nols reply:
We are awaiting our Lawyer's advice on when and how to start a court case to tell the Minister we are retailers of cannabis, not producers, meaning he should get out of our hair about this stupid issue.

Kick-ass argument! :lol: :lol:
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