Strong MJ to be treated as class A drug,Dutch Govt.plans

[CannaSir]

How do they fix a THC % content ? I think it's a ration between the weigh of the bud and the weight of the crystals ?

It's not hard to do the calculation but, frankly, it's SUCH a mind-fuck even contemplating the infrastructure that would be needed to achieve this level of control nationwide - it almost looks as if the R-wing Christian Democrats are actually playing a head-game with us and sitting there pissing themselves laughing while we all try to work out exactly how their warped scheme could work!!!

[dconstrukt]

boner thanks for the heads up.... dude... this SUCKS.

why the hell am i gonna go all the way there to smoke average weed? I can get that here.

They are seriously trying anything they can to fuck this up.... whats crazy is the amount of money the coffeeshops and tourists prolly contribute to the govmnt and country...

The ban should take effect around March-April next year, the time when the amendment was expected to be passed, justice ministry spokesman Martin Bruinsma told AFP.


either the fuckers get booted out of office or we all go to cali.

I just emailed a buddy of mine who works @ greenhouse.... waiting to hear what he says about this bs.

[CannaSir]

I just emailed a buddy of mine who works @ greenhouse.... waiting to hear what he says about this bs.

Lookin forward to hearing what he says dude...

[dconstrukt]

me too..... this shit is crazy tho.

wonder if they'll treat it like they do with the "cigarette ban"

[DazedandConfusedinOR]

me too..... this shit is crazy tho.

wonder if they'll treat it like they do with the "cigarette ban"

Unlikely. If the police come and take a sample, or two or three, and the subsequent test indicates one of the samples contained more than 15% THC then the shop is subject to being closed down. If shops want to stay open then they won't even fuck with strains that come close to 15% so goodbye to most of the hashes, especially the isolators, and the good bud as well.

It's a done deal from what I've been reading. It's already passed - because the classification of weed over 15% THC content already puts it on the same drug schedule as cocaine and heroine.

This sucks as I already purchased my $1100 plane ticket for December and it's non-refundable. I mean I'll still have a good time but I would have gone somewhere else, like Jamaica, if I had known they were going to do this. It doesn't even matter if the weed in Jamaica is under 15% THC, which I'm sure a lot (most?) of it is - it would just have been cool to go somewhere I hadn't been before.

[FriendlyEdgar]

It's a done deal from what I've been reading. It's already passed - because the classification of weed over 15% THC content already puts it on the same drug schedule as cocaine and heroine.

I'm attempting to stay cautiously optimistic that we'll be okay in December... law changes and new laws don't usually go into effect overnight, but we'll see... I certainly wish Marco had been inspired top check out and report on a few more shops after the Chapiteau situation! Hopefully we get some reports from other shops soon- seems to be a bunch of people in town right now! Clearly I'm praying that March-April rumors prove to be the worst case!! Even though 15% will be plenty for me, since I only smoke on vacations, I'll be crushed if I don't get to have my one true connoiseur-style visit! I might be making a lot more day trips to check out other countries/cities...

[DazedandConfusedinOR]

I'm attempting to stay cautiously optimistic that we'll be okay in December... law changes and new laws don't usually go into effect overnight, but we'll see... I certainly wish Marco had been inspired top check out and report on a few more shops after the Chapiteau situation! Hopefully we get some reports from other shops soon- seems to be a bunch of people in town right now! Clearly I'm praying that March-April rumors prove to be the worst case!! Even though 15% will be plenty for me, since I only smoke on vacations, I'll be crushed if I don't get to have my one true connoiseur-style visit! I might be making a lot more day trips to check out other countries/cities...

I hope you're right! From what I read, something like 80% of current stock in coffeeshops is over 15% THC so that would be a major financial disaster if shops weren't allowed to sell what they had. I think within the next few days you'll start seeing reports from people on the ground so to speak.

I agree that 15% THC is not bad, especially considering the average THC percentage of weed in the US is around 10%, but I had hoped to try some stronger stuff this year (isolators and what not).

It would be great if they at least put off implementation of this draconian law until the first of the year, but I agree, some day trips (Germany especially) may be in order. They at least have some awesome beer in Germany!

[archambaut]

I'm not sure, but iirc most import hash is in the 7-8% range.
What would be threatened are the isolators types and the
high strength weed.
I'd be fine if the hash stayed w/o the isolators, but being only
able to smoke thai/jamaican brickweed would be a bummer.

[mark09]

Guys,

Everything is still operating as usual. The shops, with a few strange exceptions, are still conducting their business as always.

With that said.

Lets not get into the same paranoid mentality as we did with the wietpas. Remember that proposal passed too, and it's yet to be implemented.

Mark

[DazedandConfusedinOR]

Guys,

Everything is still operating as usual. The shops, with a few strange exceptions, are still conducting their business as always.

With that said.

Lets not get into the same paranoid mentality as we did with the wietpas. Remember that proposal passed too, and it's yet to be implemented.

Mark

Thank you for the update. I was under the assumption that this was a done deal, but I'm glad to hear that it's business as usual as of now.

[Uncle Ron]

A few people have compared alcohol to cannabis, however they missed the mark completely , or I have.
Take one trichome (somewhat unrealistic but the point remains the same) and run it through a Mass Spectrometer or similar equipment. Look at the level of THC, this is what the authorities are talking about, I think. I doesn't matter if one gram of 20%THC is used in one space cake or one hundred, the THC is still 20%. As someone has already stated, it's not about volume.

A more simpler comparison of alcohol to cannabis would be to state that the Dutch Govt. wants to prohibit the manufacturing/distribution/sale/consumption of 80 Proof alcohol. They will however allow 40 Proof alcohol.
The only way that I know of to dilute trichomes (THC) is to change its chemical properties. Anyone have a well equipped laboratory I could use? The same applies to alcohol - the changes would occur before and during fermentation (ingredients, aging, etc...). It's not about how much water or soda or mix one adds to the alcoholic drink, it's the alcohol itself.

Next...

[Panog]

So a trichrome is made of only 20% THC ? what are the others 80% ?

[Boner]

More from Nol:

The average THC content in Nederweed is 16.5 %, according to the Trimbos Institute. In 2010 it was 17.8 %.

What? All this hassle for 1.5 % more than our government will allow???

Our government wants to lick the arses of the US Drug Mongols??!!??!!

‎1 weedtest is €700,-. We have a few new batches every week, so the prices of weed would rise again...

[CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY]

i wonder, would this all mean my crystal catching grinder would contain hard drugs after a few days in the dam....

[Boner]

i wonder, would this all mean my crystal catching grinder would contain hard drugs after a few days in the dam....

Not if all you bought was >15% thc weed.

Nol's also gone on to say unless the shops sell soapbar then all the hash would go from the menus.