Asking someone to buy cannabis for you at a coffeeshop

[Uncle Ron]

Dear Uncle Ron,
Just an observation, kind sir.
Not condoning or encouraging buying anything illicit for a minor.
If I'm mistaken, please point out which part of my post encourages making a purchase for a minor.
BTW, if you bought booze for me with your fake ID when I was a minor... you'd be the coolest in my book
I might qualify for an AARP card but I still make irrational decisions daily, and who knows where my maturity level is?
That post should be sufficient evidence of my lack of maturity, haha.
My question now is... since cannabis may be illegal where some of you live... and you risk going to jail because it is illegal, will you still continue with your illegal behavior?
Respectfully,
dwiggins

My Dear dwiggins,
This thread is about buying weed for someone underage, and although you didn't state that you would buy for a juvenile, you did mention using a fake ID, which I addressed specifically. I then moved on, mentioning that the OP wants someone to buy for him. Do you see it now (play on the commercial can you hear me now).
As for buying booze for others with my fake ID, not a chance. With my friends, either you had a fake ID or you went without. You want booze, you take the same risks as the rest of us. Don't like it, take a hike and find new friends. Needless to say, everyone in our social circle had their own fake ID. Too easy...

Lastly, cannabis is illegal everywhere. There isn't a country on Earth where cannabis is completely legal, and medical marijuana doesn't qualify.
Risk going to jail? I won't go to jail for simple possession; they might confiscate the weed, and I might receive a ticket, maybe, but jail? I live in Germany not the US, so...
Next...
Happy trails...

[dwiggins]

Dear Uncle Ron,
Just an observation, kind sir.
Not condoning or encouraging buying anything illicit for a minor.
If I'm mistaken, please point out which part of my post encourages making a purchase for a minor.
BTW, if you bought booze for me with your fake ID when I was a minor... you'd be the coolest in my book
I might qualify for an AARP card but I still make irrational decisions daily, and who knows where my maturity level is?
That post should be sufficient evidence of my lack of maturity, haha.
My question now is... since cannabis may be illegal where some of you live... and you risk going to jail because it is illegal, will you still continue with your illegal behavior?
Respectfully,
dwiggins

As for buying booze for others with my fake ID, not a chance. With my friends, either you had a fake ID or you went without. You want booze, you take the same risks as the rest of us. Don't like it, take a hike and find new friends. Needless to say, everyone in our social circle had their own fake ID. Too easy...
Happy trails...

Wow, never realized that there was a 'fake ID' protocol. Makes sense to me. I'm ancient. I've ordered beer to-go at drive-thrus, beer while driving in pickup trucks, have ten-year olds buy me beer at the store in third world countries. Seems disorienting now.

[bakeyblakey]

Hmm Ive read this entire thread out of curiosity and I see that its fairly separated into two arguments.
I think that its ridiculous that a minor asks someone to buy weed for them.
But just last winter when me and five other mates went to Amsterdam for the first time, something like this happened. While me and a mate were looking for a small cafe to eat lunch at before beginning our c/s adventures, the other half of the group already had started. And when we were talking about our ventures later that week, one friend told me a younger bloke (he said aged around 16 or 15) asked him to buy weed for him and he did!!

15 or 16!!!!! Dont kno what he was thinkin.

So thats just a second hand story I wanted to share with you. I think he was being a dumbass for doing it but hey, now we kno that people do do it.

[NW89]

Wait until your 18 so that everyone can enjoy coffeeshops for years to come. The rightwing press in the Netherlands in addition to the current quasi-fascist government will use any case of an underage high tourist (especially from the US - don't ask me why) as an emotive reason to bring in the weed cards along with any other restrictions they can pass.

It's really not worth it.

[Dave J]

As I recall Rasa went on his first trip to Dam aged 17 and got a hell of a lot of negative attention in his direction on channels from myself included because of his not wanting to wait that little extra time attitude. Prehaps Rasa, as someone who never listened to all posters on channels at the time and went anyway can say if that resulting first trip with it's limitations and potential risks would have been more enjoyable if he would have waited untill being 18 to take that first trip?.

I'll bet there are a few who have ignored advice and gone underage all the same. But wandering if the likes of Rasa who then returned time again since enjoyed the experience better being of legal age and thefefor had that freedom to do everything and go everywere. The point being does rasa (if he reads this thread) feels he would have enjoyed that special first trip better had he waited untill he was 18 and had all the freedom to do eanything and go anywere he wanted and had that freedom on the first trip based on trips since than being something far more restrictive when going underage?.

Also what if it's a police officer or "fake" police officer you ask and they tell you pay a €50 fine for trying to buy cannabis underage you ask?. As an underage person on a first trip you'll stand out a mile for the scammers on the street. As a group of underage people you may as well get big neon t-shirts on stating yourself as being underage walking round Amsterdam as it will be that obvious. So anyone your likely to ask to buy for you will only take your money to go buy and either not come back out or keep half the money or gear. The only people who would risk buying for underage people are the people most likely to scam the underage people knowing fully well they are never going to go the police and report them for not giving them the weed they asked a person to buy for them.

Plus you are aware your not going to do your accomodation booking options any favours going as a full underage group as most will almost certainly state you have to be at least 18 or have to have people over 18 in the group and only have 1 or 2 people under 18 in that group while everyone else might have to be much older. They will certainly check pasport details when arriving at accomodation so to lie at the booking stage will do you no good at all. Seems to me the best option would be to take a couple of people over 18 with you and find a camping site somewhere and have the older members of the group buy in the coffeeshops and go back to camp and smoke.

The result is your not getting that "special" first trip experience and your buying mate over 18 can get arrested if caught providing you with the goods.


Just bloody wait for god sake as your going to be 18 at some point this year a couple of months difference and the firsk free extra freedom you's have has to be worth the wait even if it means a delayed trip or a scive from uni to go on a first trip!.

[Shaggy]

Personally, I think they ought to raise the minimum age to 50. Maybe I'm just biased because I'm in my 50s, but God how I hate to see young people enjoying themselves!!

Only joking of course!

If you buy pot and supply someone under 18 here in the UK you could well end up with a jail sentence for your troubles. Although it's also illegal to supply under-18's with booze here in the UK, people who do don't go to prison but can end up with a hefty fine instead. So the two aren't really equivalent to my mind, certainly not in the eyes of the law. I'm not sure just how serious an offence (in legal terms) it is deemed in Holland though, perhaps a Dutch person could enlighten us?

But am I right in thinking that in some states in the US the age for drink is 21? So I'm not sure just how serious supplying youngsters with drink is considered in the US. In the UK its actually legal to give children over the age of 5 alcohol in the home. And I understand that's true in a lot of countries. In the UK a lot of kids are drinking outside the home by the age of about 12 onwards, and smoking pot as well. Although a lot of kids die every year in the UK from alcohol poisoning, its the pot that's seen as the far more serious offence.

Personally I wouldn't buy booze or pot for anyone under 18. Period.

[Cupcake Diva]

There is something added to the Amsterdam experience when you can walk into a shop, look at a menu, ask for advice and hand over your cash for some lovely bud. Also sitting in the coffeeshops getting baked is fantastic. I would recommend waiting so your first experience is the best it can be!

It would be interesting, as one of the previous posters said, to get an insight from someone who has been hoping to smoke whilst under the legal age and how it went for them.

Its absolutely worth the wait!

Aside from that along with what alot of others have said its not really just about the implications for yourself but these coffeeshops are peoples livelihoods also you potentially put at risk

H x

[Trouble13]

granted i have never been to amsterdam....first trip here in 21 days. I get the feeling amsterdam and weed is like vegas and gambling. i mean why would you want to go to vegas when your 20? you cant gamble you cant drink...in amsterdam you cant buy weed til 18. so why go when your 17?? like ppl have said....wait a couple more months!! im 25 (26 next month) and i have been anxiously awaiting amsterdam for years now (financial issues) and i cant tell you how excited i am to be able to go into a CS and buy some weed, sit down an toke up til im silly

[gettingrimey]

I remember the first time I went when I was 15, I'm 28 now and the worry that we would get Id'd and refused, it never happened, not once in three days. Again the second time I went with 6 of my school friends who were all 16 to seventeen we only got id'd the once in a four day trip. Now at the age of 28 I will get id'd at least once or twice a trip so I think that illustrates the pressure being exerted on the Coffeeshops by the government. Although the same could be said for alcohol in the UK cause I used to drink illegally and go out clubbing all the time at 16, but there is no way that a 16 year old could do that now.

[Shaggy]

there is no way that a 16 year old could do that now.

They certainly do round where I live in the UK. Every kid you meet seems to have a fake ID.

[Dave near London]

Almost impossible here to buy alcohol under 18 - my 2nd son is now "legal" by a week and he is enjoying sensibly the right to buy. Fake Id doesnt work generally.

[chillers2]

Ok, I have to put my hands up and admit YES i have asked someone to buy weed for me from a coffeeshop

But, before you all jump on me !!!......its only cos i was far too stoned to get back down the spiral staircase myself though.............

and we are both in our 40's.....

Just trying to lighten the thread, come on chilllllll

[dwiggins]

I think I finally get it.
If you're NOT of legal age, and coming to AMS involves an airplane, a passport, or travel over three hours... DON'T come!
If someone else is paying, for example your school or your parents, and you're already there, my guess is you will try. DON'T!
Wait until you are of legal age. That IS the best way to enjoy AMS.
Think of it as a modern tribal rite of passage.
You're probably already smoking at home anyway. Enjoy that. And be careful.
If you're not of legal age and you live in Holland, you probably know how to get it anyway, I would hope
Am I mistaken?

[Panog]

I don't get the point of this thread : if someone asks you to buy for him and you're okay do it, if you're not okay don't do it...
I don't know why it would be such a big problem... Coffee shops can't have problem (they don't know what you will do with their weed and they're not responsible) and apart of doing it in front of a cop you won't have any trouble either...
For people who seem shocked about the idea of buying for someone underage (comments like "buying for someone underage is really grave..."), didn't you smoke when you were 16 years old ?

[piedpiperofvice]

I don't get the point of this thread : if someone asks you to buy for him and you're okay do it, if you're not okay don't do it...
I don't know why it would be such a big problem... Coffee shops can't have problem (they don't know what you will do with their weed and they're not responsible) and apart of doing it in front of a cop you won't have any trouble either...
For people who seem shocked about the idea of buying for someone underage (comments like "buying for someone underage is really grave..."), didn't you smoke when you were 16 years old ?

i wanted to just say bingo in response to this post.then i thought about it. while a liquor store would definitely not have to worry about such a scenario impacting them it seems obvious that the anti coffeeshop crowd is determined not to let fairness or right and wrong get in the way of their mission. they would seize on such a situation as a" legitimate" reason to attack a particular coffeeshop or coffeeshops in general.they have been adept at fabricating nonsensical reasons to shut off the tourists and kill the coffeeshops. they would just add this to the list. if the ridiculous rationale that has been adduced so far is readily accepted as a reason to stop the coffeeshops i have no doubt that this will be deemed as an argument in their favor. it strikes me as very odd as a few years back while getting liquored up in one of the bar areas i had to find a place to use the restroom(pea bladder syndrome ) i finally just dragged my friend into the nearest bar for a drink and bathroom break. we walked in and were confronted by a huge group of what looked like little munchkins(they looked like 14 year olds). the bartender told me it was a party for a 16 year olds birthday. considering alcohol leads to a myriad of social ills ,methinks, it may be a tad hypocritical to blast the coffeeshop scene while not batting an eye at 16 year olds on a bender(not saying that they were all puking or completely bombed but it could lead some down that path) are these people so stupid as to not see there is no rhyme or reason as to why they favor one particular intoxicant to another? especially since alcohol is potentially the much more dangerous and destructive of the 2. hard to argue logic with that particular crowd. the rationale and tolerant image of the dutch is not supported by the anti coffeeshop crowd