Talking with a bud tender..

[Uncle Ron]

If one stays with reputable shops, the chance of being ripped-off is minimized. Go to lesser known or unknown shops, you take your chances, but most likely won't get ripped-off. Another reason why first timers and lightweights shouldn't come to Amsterdam/The Netherlands for gear, easy targets of opportunity.

But in the end, stupid is as stupid does.
Happy trails...

Not if they pay attention to what's going on using the ACD.

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[geekymonkey]

I'm putting my experience out there so feel free to comment, I won't be all sensitive and geeky if ya'll want to tell me I'm wrong about this.

Admittedly, I'm a pot ho, and it's only this last September that I started smoking more hash when in Amsterdam. (I'm an unprocessed sort of geek all around, and so I've just naturally preferred the less-processed nature of pure bud.)

So, I don't know what soapbar is, and the only place I've smoked hash in any quantity is in Amsterdam. I suspect the "impurity" I'm objecting to is of a much lesser scale than what other people are imagining.

I don't think I'm a target of opportunity at this point, as I do know something about hash mostly thanks to the excellent people here, frequent quality shops and am pleasant with the dealers many of whom I have an ongoing relationship with.

I smoked 6-8 hashes the first weekend in September, and around 20 the last week. Stayed in the nl working the second week in october, so I probably smoked an ounce of hash that month. I hacked up black blobs from my lungs for the next 6 weeks. I've never had that happen from smoking the equivalent amount of weed, or even dramatically larger amounts of weed.

There were only a few hashes that left a residue in my mouth that made me suspect they had been cut with something- the Trans-Himalayan from Kandinsky and the Pollen Nepal from Katsu (which was really cheap and I should never have bought but I was high high when I made that call.)

There were a few hashes that I definitely think were clean clean, and I will probably smoke some hash next time I'm in Amsterdam, but this pot ho shall remain so for now.

edited to correct the spelling of Himalayan, which I butchered horribly the first time.

[alpen rock]

Hi!

interesting point

The question might be "how do you smoke yr hash?" pure in bongs, vapes, mixed w/ baccy?

Trans Himalayan was a big let down fr me also last december...after all Ithe raving reports I had read on ACD, I expected smthing better, but I know batches change constently in the Dam.I tend to be picky on hashes also (after all, I was born and raised in Morroco !!!)

It could have been just slightly contaminated, couldn't be adamant about that, but...the taste was waxy (NOT in the sense of ol'soapbar though, trust me!!! ) , quite blank and lacking punch, just slightly peppery/leathery, and I had to pack the spliff w/ TH to get sum taste, whereas an excellent hash can be used in little amount.

[Uncle Ron]

I'm putting my experience out there so feel free to comment, I won't be all sensitive and geeky if ya'll want to tell me I'm wrong about this.

Thank you, don't mind if I do.
As for being geeky, you are the geekymonkey are you not?

Admittedly, I'm a pot ho, and it's only this last September that I started smoking more hash when in Amsterdam. (I'm an unprocessed sort of geek all around, and so I've just naturally preferred the less-processed nature of pure bud.)

She said "pot ho".
I suppose that makes you a stoner chick as well?

So, I don't know what soapbar is, and the only place I've smoked hash in any quantity is in Amsterdam. I suspect the "impurity" I'm objecting to is of a much lesser scale than what other people are imagining.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soapbar
http://cannabis-soapbar.blogspot.com/
Now you know...

I don't think I'm a target of opportunity at this point, as I do know something about hash mostly thanks to the excellent people here, frequent quality shops and am pleasant with the dealers many of whom I have an ongoing relationship with.

My thoughts exactly, thank you.
I also think attitude plays a major part as well.

I smoked 6-8 hashes the first weekend in September, and around 20 the last week. Stayed in the nl working the second week in october, so I probably smoked an ounce of hash that month. I hacked up black blobs from my lungs for the next 6 weeks. I've never had that happen from smoking the equivalent amount of weed, or even dramatically larger amounts of weed.

You smoked approximately an ounce of hash, that's why you coughed up chunks of tar.
Take a needle and stick it through a small piece of paper; take a small piece of hash and stick it on the tip of the needle; light the hash and allow it to burn for approximately 10 seconds, blow out; place a clear glass container over the set up and observe. Of course I'm describing hash under glass, an old school method of smoking hash. What I want you to focus on is the density of the smoke, and after the smoke has been removed, the residue that remains. What you see in the container is at a minimum of what remains in your lungs.
Now if you were to vaporize, no more chunks perhaps... I dunno, but it does work for weed. Something to toke about...

There were only a few hashes that left a residue in my mouth that made me suspect they had been cut with something- the Trans-Himalayan from Kandinsky and the Pollen Nepal from Katsu (which was really cheap and I should never have bought but I was high high when I made that call.)

Thanks for naming names, and at the same time conveying doubt and not absolute.

There were a few hashes that I definitely think were clean clean, and I will probably smoke some hash next time I'm in Amsterdam, but this pot ho shall remain so for now.
edited to correct the spelling of Himalayan, which I butchered horribly the first time.

I'm gradually moving away from bud and more towards hash, mainly because bud prices have become ridiculously high (no pun intended).
Also with hash, I'm less likely to get ripped-off due to under-flush/under-cure/excessive water weight/ and the list goes on....

Damn, now where did I put my hash pipe?
Happy trails...

[geekymonkey]

Hi!

interesting point

The question might be "how do you smoke yr hash?" pure in bongs, vapes, mixed w/ baccy?

Trans Himalayan was a big let down fr me also last december...after all Ithe raving reports I had read on ACD, I expected smthing better, but I know batches change constently in the Dam.I tend to be picky on hashes also (after all, I was born and raised in Morroco !!!)

It could have been just slightly contaminated, couldn't be adamant about that, but...the taste was waxy (NOT in the sense of ol'soapbar though, trust me!!! ) , quite blank and lacking punch, just slightly peppery/leathery, and I had to pack the spliff w/ TH to get sum taste, whereas an excellent hash can be used in little amount.

A mix of pure in bongs and occasionally in a joint mixed with weed. I don't smoke tobacco.

It sounds like the trans-himalayan you got was very similar to the batch I tried.

You smoked approximately an ounce of hash, that's why you coughed up chunks of tar.

Yeah, but when I smoke twice that much weed, no chunks of tar, so is it some inherent quality of the hash that makes it higher tar (seems unlikely) or just the impact of impurities?

[Uncle Ron]

You smoked approximately an ounce of hash, that's why you coughed up chunks of tar.

Yeah, but when I smoke twice that much weed, no chunks of tar, so is it some inherent quality of the hash that makes it higher tar (seems unlikely) or just the impact of impurities?

Well, seems you may have to do some experimenting.
Next time you are able, smoke only water hash. Observe and note...
Next, smoke only Moroccan. Observe and note...
Next, and so on...

I hardly cough when smoking Icecolator, unless I take a monster hit. I can't say the same for the other types of hash.
You could very well be correct in your assumption that the problem is related to impurities...

As for comparing bud to hash, does it really work in this instance? Bud is mostly plant matter whereas hash is (mostly) compressed trichomes. The density of the hash produces a thicker, tar-rich smoke. It sounds good but I'm not sure if it makes any sense. Oh well...
Happy trails...