Smart drugs worth it?

[RvanSteensel]

fuck pills lol

Crystals is the shit you need.

[sensismiler]

fuck pills lol

Crystals is the shit you need.

Well yeah I know that. Here in the UK the quality of pills can be shit anyway (there are very good ones as well) or they contain RC's, so we always get crystal. But someone on holiday may not have the luxury of that choice.

after consuming half!! of one of these http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?pa ... l&id=12178 on holiday and literally thinking I was dying I vowed never to touch a pill again. I'm actually not sure I'd still be here if I took a whole one.

[weoftenscore6]

fuck pills lol

Crystals is the shit you need.

Well yeah I know that. Here in the UK the quality of pills can be shit anyway (there are very good ones as well) or they contain RC's, so we always get crystal. But someone on holiday may not have the luxury of that choice.

after consuming half!! of one of these http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?pa ... l&id=12178 on holiday and literally thinking I was dying I vowed never to touch a pill again. I'm actually not sure I'd still be here if I took a whole one.

Sounds horrible, but they are shit pills though... it even says in the report 'stay away from these'. In fact pills in general are getting cleaner and stronger (a lot of the best are apparently coming from holland, something to do with q-dance crew? I dont know,there's a lot of urban myth surrounding this type of bullshit) which people are attributing to the rise in popularity of smart drugs (mcat esp). The dealers have responded by making better pills. Its easy to get nice clean pills of varying strength, 100mg (eg.. http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?pa ... l&id=31388) or 200mg+ (eg..http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?pa ... l&id=31287). Pills can be fun to dabble in every now and again (although im getting too old now! lol) you just have to look for good pills so you wont take anything which will fuck your night up like on your holiday

[sensismiler]

Yeah I know that now lol. I wasn't aware of pill reports at the time. It was only after discovering it that I though ya know what, I'm gonna check out those death beans and see what it says! I wasn't surprised by what I read after chucking up black stuff half hour after consumption. The big line of base didn't help the situation. I was young and stupid, what can I say.

I was very impressed by a lot of the reports I read yesterday. It would appear you are right.. quality is definitely improving. The bad ones were around a few years ago when an ingredient that is used in MDMA production was made illegal, not sure what that ingredient is. Even the 'mdma crystal' was in fact an RC.

What with the recent PMA deaths I still would rather not touch a pill to be honest. I did some MDMA last weekend but only because I'd had it for around a year, before all the warnings, and it had been tested. I wouldn't trust anything at the moment without full testing, not that I partake that much any more either.

[Felty]

If it says not for human consumption, take it. Watched this whole documentry about legal drugs, their molecular structure is almost identical to illegal drugs

The only difference between Mkat and MDMA is one molecule of oxygen

Yeah they probably ain't great for you, but if your only having a bag or two I'm sure you'll be fine

[sensismiler]

The problem is that Mcat is now banned, therefore the replacement will be 2 molecules different. Then that gets banned.. vicious cycle. The more substances that get banned the more possible risk they carry. They said in that documentary that they discover 70 odd new substances a year compared to one or two a year previously.

I suppose at least you know what you are getting as opposed to being sold an 'E' containing an RC. The guy with the blood pressure strap had the right idea, but I still wouldn't like to gamble.

[Panog]

If it says not for human consumption, take it. Watched this whole documentry about legal drugs, their molecular structure is almost identical to illegal drugs

The only difference between Mkat and MDMA is one molecule of oxygen

Yeah they probably ain't great for you, but if your only having a bag or two I'm sure you'll be fine

Thank you for spreading misunderstood shit like this... A single oxygen atom is the difference between CO and CO2.
MDMA and Mkat doesn't work the same way on the brain. Mkat (real name mephedrone) is a catinon (sp ?), MDMA's not, it's an amphetamine. They don't have the same effects, the same comedown, ... If people read what you said and trust it they're going to endanger themselves.

[Uncle Ron]

Smart drugs worth it?
I suppose if one thinks that by taking these "smart drugs" it will make them smarter... even then, no.
Is it worth it, as in cost per dose? No...
Is it worth it, as in the experience? No...
Is it worth it, as in overdosing? No...

Every so often a newbie (typically 18's) will join the forum simply to ask about hard drugs, or where they can score cocaine, crystal, X, etc..., very old hat.
Meh, sit back and wait, one day the little tykes will either ingest too much, or the wrong stuff, or both... happens more often than not...

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[Doc Holliday]

So by that Felty logic, drinking a gallon of H2O would be roughly the same as drinking a gallon of H2O2 (pure Hydrogen Peroxide). Doubt the results are going to be roughly the same though!

[Felty]

I don't know shit about chemicals, I'm just quoting a documentry.

What I'm saying is if you're trying smart drugs, take caution and you'll be fine; It'll be purer than the shit they mix with street drugs

[Panog]

The problem isn't being purer, for example pure heroin is worse for your body than cut hash, and mephedrone is far worse than MDMA, and it's addictive